Marquette Hatred Towards Wisconsin

[Coleman]

Keefe, I just ordered the Phenomenon of Man and the Divine Milieu on Amazon. They look pretty fascinating. The Jesuits continue to amaze me.

Appreciate the light reading suggestions.

[Warrior of Law]

Let's face it: Wisconsin has no rival in football.  I went to school there, and no other team would even acknowledge Wisconsin as one of their top rivals (except for irrelevant teams like Minnesota).  Even worse for UW basketball.  Like it or not, MU is UW's biggest rival.  MSU and OSU care little for UW.  I would even acknowledge that UW is MU's biggest rival, too.  Everyone needs to get over their bad selves and admit is a rivalry for both schools.

[Litehouse]

Let's face it: Wisconsin has no rival in football.  I went to school there, and no other team would even acknowledge Wisconsin as one of their top rivals (except for irrelevant teams like Minnesota).  Even worse for UW basketball.  Like it or not, MU is UW's biggest rival.  MSU and OSU care little for UW.  I would even acknowledge that UW is MU's biggest rival, too.  Everyone needs to get over their bad selves and admit is a rivalry for both schools.

Minnesota and Iowa consider each other bigger rivals.  Maybe UW can start developing a rivalry with Nebraska to determine who get to use the "Go Big Red!" cheer every year.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

The reality is that the hatred is part of human makeup.

Almost from day one we are taught that our country is the best, our school is the best, our religion is the best, etc. There is a great human need for each individual to consider himself the best. That is why as kids we would say my dad can beat up your dad. For our psyche it is important to for us to say we are the best school/basketball program in the state. The badger scout board is full of posters attacking MU basketball/Buzz and MU overall as a school. This just goads us because we need to be the best in our mind. The same thing happens on the other side when we attack, UW basketball/BO or UW overall as a school. This will never go away, because it is so much in each fan base's face. You could say the same about Notre Dame, but because they are not in our State it is not a daily assault on our Psyche.

This.

The only thing I'll add is that it's a bit frustrating that the default setting in Wisconsin is to root for the Badgers, and dismiss MU.

However, MU isn't the only school that experiences that. In North Carolina, UNC is far more popular than Duke. Duke could win 50 titles in a row, and UNC would still be more popular amongst the masses in NC.

[Coleman]

This.

The only thing I'll add is that it's a bit frustrating that the default setting in Wisconsin is to root for the Badgers, and dismiss MU.

However, MU isn't the only school that experiences that. In North Carolina, UNC is far more popular than Duke. Duke could win 50 titles in a row, and UNC would still be more popular amongst the masses in NC.

True, but Duke gets plenty of love from other places like ESPN.

[keefe]

Keefe, I just ordered the Phenomenon of Man and the Divine Milieu on Amazon. They look pretty fascinating. The Jesuits continue to amaze me.

Appreciate the light reading suggestions.

I might also recommend Thomas Merton's Seven Storey Mountain. Many position it as a contemporary version of Augustine's Confessions.

You'll enjoy Teilhard. A fascinating man. Not only was he a distinguished theologian but also a notable paleontologist. He saw nobility in the common and exalted it as evidence of God's continuing presence.

I share your appreciation for the Society of Jesus. Such passion for the truth and an unrivaled commitment to intellectual honesty. The world is a better place for their works.

[Coleman]

I might also recommend Thomas Merton's Seven Storey Mountain. Many position it as a contemporary version of Augustine's Confessions.

You'll enjoy Teilhard. A fascinating man. Not only was he a distinguished theologian but also a notable paleontologist. He saw nobility in the common and exalted it as evidence of God's continuing presence.

I share your appreciation for the Society of Jesus. Such passion for the truth and an unrivaled commitment to intellectual honesty. The world is a better place for their works.

I've read plenty of Merton. I love most of his stuff (especially towards the end when he started to bring together Buddhist and Christian principles) but SSM comes off a little pious and preachy for me. Still worth reading though.

[brandx]

Sure, if your interpretation of faith is to show up on Sundays, sit in the pew and struggle to stay awake during the Homily. Fr Teilhard, S.J., was persecuted by the leadership of his Order and Church yet continued his journey of spiritual discovery. His works offer superb insight on man's role in the continuing story of Creation, Incarnation, and Salvation.

Going to Mass is not practicing faith; it is simply an act of devotion. I believe we are here to celebrate God in the world. Fly relief supplies into Somalia, Eritrea, and Kenya. Work for clean water, clean energy, clean hearts. Fight human trafficking. Share your knowledge, providence, and compassion with those less gifted.

You argue that is the responsibility of Church leadership. Gregory, Augustine, Ambrose, Teilhard, and Merton would suggest otherwise.

Well written - I don't disagree with any of it. It is our responsibility.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

Let's face it: Wisconsin has no rival in football.  I went to school there, and no other team would even acknowledge Wisconsin as one of their top rivals (except for irrelevant teams like Minnesota).  Even worse for UW basketball.  Like it or not, MU is UW's biggest rival.  MSU and OSU care little for UW.  I would even acknowledge that UW is MU's biggest rival, too.  Everyone needs to get over their bad selves and admit is a rivalry for both schools.

One of my roommates in college, who went to UW-Milwaukee but considered himself a Badger (yeah...) would project that he couldn't believe Marquette considered UW-Madison a rival and that a school like DePaul was a more realistic "rival."