Goodman Article on Programs Developing Talent - MU Mention

[keefe]

As well as wrought with trouble....

https://www.google.com/search?q=wrought+with+trouble&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&client=safari#sclient=tablet-gws&client=safari&hl=en&q=%22wrought+with+trouble%22&oq=%22wrought+with+trouble%22&gs_l=tablet-gws.3...41387.44991.0.45315.2.2.0.0.0.0.172.273.0j2.2.0.cpsugrpqhmsignedin...0...1.1.19.tablet-gws-psy.0WL_Q1wpoLA&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.&bvm=bv.48705608,d.cGE&fp=18b940e374216100&biw=1024&bih=672

Archaic. And wrong.

[MU82]

Equalizer, how dare you make any criticism about Buzz on this board. The blinders can best be summarized by "In Buzz we trust" Now with Crean, criticize away!

We are stupid to trust in Buzz. I mean, the man has done nothing -- NOTHING! -- but bring this program down, just as so many predicted the day he replaced The Great Tom Crean.

Fire Buzz. We can do so much better.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Shawn Kemp was a JUCO guy.  That's all I got

a few come to mind...I'm guessing there are many more, but off the top of my head

Dennis Rodman
Ben Wallace
Spencer Haywood
Jamaal Tinsley
Birdman Anderson
Larry Johnson

A few more

Steve Francis
Avery Johnson
John Starks
Mark Eaton
James Ennis
Jamario Moon

[ChicosBailBonds]

We are stupid to trust in Buzz. I mean, the man has done nothing -- NOTHING! -- but bring this program down, just as so many predicted the day he replaced The Great Tom Crean.

Fire Buzz. We can do so much better.

I don't think anyone has ever said that.  Good news is that MU has had many great coaches and many good coaches over the years, so if he does leave MU has the resources and pedigree to hire another one. 

[Lennys Tap]

I don't think anyone has ever said that.  Good news is that MU has had many great coaches and many good coaches over the years, so if he does leave MU has the resources and pedigree to hire another one. 

One great one and one who's presently on the cusp of greatness. Lots of good ones, though.

[ChicosBailBonds]

One great one and one who's presently on the cusp of greatness. Lots of good ones, though.

We will be fine if Buzz leaves.  The world will still spin on its axis.  We've had some great coaches, very good coaches, good coaches (feel free to define them as you wish).  We've had coaches develop NBA Players, get to Final Fours, win league titles, etc. 

[keefe]

One great one and one who's presently on the cusp of greatness. Lots of good ones, though.

We also had Tom Crean

[AZWarrior]

We will be fine if Buzz leaves.  The world will still spin on its axis.  We've had some great coaches, very good coaches, good coaches (feel free to define them as you wish).  We've had coaches develop NBA Players, get to Final Fours, win league titles, etc. 

More than likely, that's the case. 

I'd really like to do without the drama, however.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Archaic. And wrong.

Make sure to tell Jane Eyre, the Book of Job, ABC News, Wall Street Journal, NY Times, etc, etc that all used it in that link I provided.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

More than likely, that's the case.  

I'd really like to do without the drama, however.

Understood, but it's going to happen one day.  In the last 35 years we have had ONE coach go more than 6 years.  Buzz is entering his 6th year.  No one likes the drama, but our history shows a pattern.

[ChicosBailBonds]

We also had Tom Crean

Good thing...I enjoyed Wade, Novak, Diener, Matthews, McNeal, Hayward, James, BigEast, Final Four, etc because of him.   

[bilsu]

I think saying that the players Buzz recruited that transferred out were Buzz failures is not looking at the whole picture. Would they of failed, if they bought into what Buzz was teaching and committed themselves to working as hard as possible? Mbao certainly had the height and athleticism to make the NBA. We will never know how good he could of been, if he hit the weight room and worked as hard as Buzz wanted him to. some of the failures rest sorely on the players shoulders. Roseboro with his height and shooting ability also did not fullfill his potential and that was not Buzz's fault.