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GGGG

And Zeller really only played those big minutes early because Hansbrough was injured to start the year.

See how that works?  You have all-Americans in front of you and you don't see the floor much.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Terror Skink on April 29, 2013, 07:14:30 PM
And Zeller really only played those big minutes early because Hansbrough was injured to start the year.


Sorry, but the notion that his injury had nothing to do with his playing time just doesn't pass the smell test.  We saw how much injuries impacted the development of our own players from Mbakwe to Cadougan to Otule. 

Pakuni

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Quote from: The Equalizer on April 29, 2013, 04:57:19 PM
Hmm . . .
Pre injury:  2 games, 2 starts, 22.5 mpg
Post injury: 13 games, 0 starts, 5.3 mpg

But, nah, the injury didn't affect his starts or minutes per game at all.


He played so many minutes those first two games because Hansbrough was out.
Nice research, dude.

Edit: D'oh. Skink beat me to it.

GGGG

Quote from: The Equalizer on April 29, 2013, 08:24:47 PM
Sorry, but the notion that his injury had nothing to do with his playing time just doesn't pass the smell test.  We saw how much injuries impacted the development of our own players from Mbakwe to Cadougan to Otule. 



Sorry, but your argument gets lamer with every post.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Equalizer on April 29, 2013, 08:24:47 PM
Sorry, but the notion that his injury had nothing to do with his playing time just doesn't pass the smell test.  We saw how much injuries impacted the development of our own players from Mbakwe to Cadougan to Otule. 


So it was the injury - and not the fact the Wooden Award winner was ahead of him on the depth chart- that caused Zeller to play few minutes as a frosh?

Good grief, you really don't know when to quit.

The Equalizer

Quote from: Pakuni on April 29, 2013, 08:27:01 PM
He played so many minutes those first two games because Hansbrough was out.
Nice research, dude.

Edit: D'oh. Skink beat me to it.

That's like saying Jae Crowder got more than 5 mpg at MU only because of injuries to Otule and Gardner.  

We all saw (well maybe not you) how injuries impacted the returns of James, Cadougan, Mbakwe, Christopherson, Otule, Matthews, etc. Hell, we have fans that argue that a 3-game suspension impacted the entire career of Juan Anderson.

Meanwhioe, the fact that you think a player can break his writst, get a plate and a dozen screws in his arm, miss 12 weeks in the middle of the season, then return to  100% of his pre-injury status is beyond nutty.

It's also beyond nutty that you think Roy Williams would start and give 22+ mpg to a player he wouldn't otherwise play simply because of an injury to another player. Did Buzz Williams give Gardner's 21 mpg to Jamail Jones or Juan Anderson?  Hardly. He did exactly what all good coaches do-shorten ths rotation and spread the minutes.

Maybe Zellar got a couple of extra minutes per game incrementally because Hansbrough was injured--just like Crowder got a few extra mintues/game when Gardner was injured.  

The Equalizer

Quote from: Pakuni on April 29, 2013, 08:44:10 PM
So it was the injury - and not the fact the Wooden Award winner was ahead of him on the depth chart- that caused Zeller to play few minutes as a frosh?

Good grief, you really don't know when to quit.


I think a 25/15 split in minutes--maybe even 25/20 with them playing 5 mpg in a lineup together--would not have been out of the realm of possiblity had no injury to either player taken place.

If this concept confuses you, look at how Jimmy Butler got 20 mpg his first season despite playing behind not just one, but two players (Matthews and Hayward). 

I very highly doubt that Zellar would have been limited to just 5 mpg for the  season had he been healthy. 

Nukem2

Get a room , boys....l........

ChicosBailBonds

Going back and reading the articles when Zeller broke his arm, Roy Williams certainly paints it as a major hit to his program.  I would imagine that is because he thought Zeller was going to be a major player.  When he comes back in February (instead of missing the season as projected), equally intersting comments from Coach Williams and having Zeller back.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Nukem2 on April 29, 2013, 09:54:44 PM
Get a room , boys....l........

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