Something I Don't Understand

[Markusquette]

There are classes designed to be easily passable for athletes and that's been the case for decades.

As mentioned before, they have an expansive tutoring system that stops just short of giving them test answers a lot of the time.

Schools are going to do everything they can to keep their moneymaking athletes eligible. Academics in University are virtually worthless for a lot of them. Some of the most laughable majors have been created for the sole purpose of keeping athletes eligible

[MU82]

I think Love at up at Arizona when Michigan would not admit him. Apparently, whatever he did at North Carolina was not good enough for Michigan.

It's outrageous that Michigan didn't accept phantom credits from phantom classes taught by phantom instructors!

[GB Warrior]

There are classes designed to be easily passable for athletes and that's been the case for decades.

As mentioned before, they have an expansive tutoring system that stops just short of giving them test answers a lot of the time.

You'd think more of them become dentists if that were the case

[Billy Hoyle]

Wasn't there a similar thing with Crowder at MU, where Buzz recruited him even though his JUCO credits didn't transfer and he had no chance to graduate?

I don't know about his transfer in, but I know nearly the entire team had to take multiple summer classes just to get to their percentages for eligibility the following semester.

[Shaka Shart]

You'd think more of them become dentists if that were the case

Wrong type of shooting

[willie warrior]

You'd think more of them become dentists if that were the case

Yeah, great thought having some of those guys probing your teeth. Is it safe?

[Billy Hoyle]

If Never happens though with athletes. Schools that do not accept transfer students at all do so, however, for athletes. Sorry to be an old grump, but there is something terribly wrong about all of this.

That is incorrect. There are many instances of athletes being evaluated and coaches being told they won't be eligible. It happens early in the process before coaches make an offer. Individuals outside of athletics do the evaluations and there must be an equivalent class at the institution for the credits to transfer. Then another outside entity (usually the Registar) does the degree audit and certifies the student-athlete for eligibility.

It is easy to get a freshman transfer eligible - all they had to do was pass 24 credits at their previous school. After the sophomore year it's a little more difficult but they only have to be at 40% of their degree completed. However, It isn't uncommon at schools like MU, Creighton, X, etc. that have strict core curriculum standards to not be able to get a transfer eligible (especially from a public school) after their junior year as they need to be at 60% of their degree completed as courses like Theology, Philosophy, and other requirements are often not offered. A kid may have completed 100 credits but many end up as "empty electives" that don't count towards a degree, leaving them short in terms of percentage. And there are situations like Michigan, Stanford, Ohio State and others where a minimum percentage of a degree must be completed at the school and no matter how many credits were completed previously they won't count towards PTD.

[The Sultan]

But also, schools are making it much easier for non-athletes to transfer in as well. You won't find as many of the "empty credits" as you used to at most schools because they see transfer students as a potential revenue source. Not only that but some of the limitations are pretty silly anyway. One of my kids transferred schools and the "receiving" school wouldn't allow his second semester writing class to transfer as a requirement. (He did get the credits for it though.)  So he took it his junior year and aced it. It was a really ridiculous decision.

[Billy Hoyle]

But also, schools are making it much easier for non-athletes to transfer in as well. You won't find as many of the "empty credits" as you used to at most schools because they see transfer students as a potential revenue source. Not only that but some of the limitations are pretty silly anyway. One of my kids transferred schools and the "receiving" school wouldn't allow his second semester writing class to transfer as a requirement. (He did get the credits for it though.)  So he took it his junior year and aced it. It was a really ridiculous decision.

The difference is there are no progress towards degree requirements for non-athletes. That's one area where schools haven't challenged NCAA requirements.

Caleb Love and Jonell Davis would have been allowed to transfer to Michigan if they weren't athletes, but since they were they had to meet NCAA PTD requirements and that's why they were rejected.