Regarding Winning the Big East

[PGsHeroes32]

This situation isn't very likely but if gtown gets a split with Cuse and we win all but 1 game rest of way(cuse not being the loss). Do we have tiebreaker? Us and gtown split but we were 1-0 vs cuse while gtown split. Does that matter or do we move to the next best behind cuse? This also assumes gtown and cuse only lose to each other plus us for cuse rest of way.

[BallBoy]

This situation isn't very likely but if gtown gets a split with Cuse and we win all but 1 game rest of way(cuse not being the loss). Do we have tiebreaker? Us and gtown split but we were 1-0 vs cuse while gtown split. Does that matter or do we move to the next best behind cuse? This also assumes gtown and cuse only lose to each other plus us for cuse rest of way.

Technically, we would tie as regular season champions so we both won.  The seeding for the tournament would be determined by who has a victory against the highest team in the standing.  Since we would have tied GU and beat Cuse then the 1 seed would be between us and GU assuming that Louisville lost as well.  Based on the fact we both beat each other and Cuse it would move t the next highest team.  If it is Pitt then we get the top spot but if it is UL then Georgetown would get the number 1 seed.

[wardle2wade]

Technically, we would tie as regular season champions so we both won.  The seeding for the tournament would be determined by who has a victory against the highest team in the standing.  Since we would have tied GU and beat Cuse then the 1 seed would be between us and GU assuming that Louisville lost as well.  Based on the fact we both beat each other and Cuse it would move t the next highest team.  If it is Pitt then we get the top spot but if it is UL then Georgetown would get the number 1 seed.

Also, the tiebreaker moves to the next highest ranked team down the list if both teams don't play that "highest ranked team" the same amount of times... that is unless MU was to beat Cuse (1-0) and Georgetown got swept by Cuse (0-2)... then MU get the tiebreaker.  Under that scenario, MU would get the tiebreaker since even if MU played Cuse another time, they could do no worse than 1-1 while Georgetown was 0-2. 

I haven't explained it very well, but hopefully you get the drift.

[TallTitan34]

For conference champion there is no tie breaker. The tie breaker is simply for seeding in the Big East tourney. All teams who tie for first are considered co-champions.

[PGsHeroes32]

Yeah, my point was for seeding. Cuse would be the next best team I'm wondering if our 1-0 would trump a 1-1 or would it go to another tiebreaker? Solid chance Pitt would be tiebreaker anyways since they have easy schedule left and under my scenario UL loses to Cuse, but still just wondering how we stack up head to head with gtown.

[hoyasincebirth]

MULTIPLE-TEAM TIE (3 or more teams)

1.
A) Teams are viewed as a "mini-conference" when comparing head-to-head results. The team with the
best record (as determined by winning percentage, even if unequal games) vs. the other teams in the miniconference
gains the advantage. If only two teams have the same best winning percentage in the miniconference,
the higher seed goes to the team winning the head-to-head series. If the two teams split their
two games, then proceed to Step 2 under Two-Way ties. To seed the remaining team(s) in this miniconference,
proceed to Paragraph B below. If three or more (but not all) teams have the same best winning
percentage in the original mini-conference, then those tied teams create a new mini-conference and follow
the same procedures as at the beginning of this paragraph. If all teams in the mini-conference have the
same mini-conference record, proceed to Step 2 below.

B) After the top team in a mini-conference is determined, the next team is ranked by its record in the
original mini-conference. If there are any remaining teams tied by their record in the mini-conference,
then head-to-head results will determine the higher seed. If the teams split two games, then proceed back
to the two-way tie breaking procedure. If there are at least three teams remaining tied by their record in
the mini-conference, they would then form a new mini-conference and follow the procedure again at the
beginning of Step 1 (Multiple-Team Tie).

2. Compare each team's record vs. the team or group of tied teams occupying the highest position in the
standings. Continue down through the standings until one team gains an advantage. When comparing
records against a single team or collective tied teams (before ties are broken), the following may apply:
a. The games played against the team or group are equal, winning percentage prevails.
b. If the games played against the team or group are unequal, the following scenarios apply:
1) Most wins do prevail only if the team(s) with fewer wins could not equal that win total if they
played the same number of games. Two examples of many scenarios that do provide an advantage
1) Team A 2-0 2) Team A 3-1
Team B 1-1 Team B 1-2
Team C 0-1 Team C 1-2

2) Most wins do not prevail only if the team(s) with fewer wins could equal or surpass the win total
of the other team. Two examples of many scenarios that do not provide an advantage:
1) Team A 2-1 2) Team A 1-2
Team B 1-1 Team B 0-2
Team C 1-1 Team C 0-2

3) Fewer losses do not prevail if the team(s) have the same number of wins, but the team with fewer
games could equal or surpass the loss total of the other tied teams. Two examples of many scenarios
that do not provide an advantage:
1) Team A 2-0 2) Team A 0-2
Team B 2-1 Team B 0-3
Team C 2-1 Team C 0-3
If an advantage is not determined, proceed to the next team or group in the standings for comparison.

If the tie cannot be broken after continuing down through the last team or teams in the standings,
revert back to comparing records against the top teams in order and allow winning percentage to
prevail even if there is a comparison of unequal games. Only then, if the percentages are both 1.000,
than 2-0 is better than 1-0. However, the reverse is not true – no team gains advantage when all have a
.000 winning percentage (0-1 is never better than 0-2).

So based on this and your hypothetical Marquette would get the 1 seed because they would be 2-1, Georgetown would be 2-2, and Cuse would be 1-2. So Georgetown would be the 2 seed and Cuse would be the 3 seed.

I think the Hoyas at least get a split with Cuse so You guys winning against cuse would be great. You're the only other team I would be ok with winning the BE if we cannot. Cuse is absolutely unacceptable as would Pitt.

[Tugg Speedman]

If we win the regular season ... do we hang a banner?

[Lennys Tap]

If we win the regular season ... do we hang a banner?

For a Big East title? Why wouldn't we?

[Nukem2]

For a Big East title? Why wouldn't we?

Definitely would be worth a banner...!!

[Tugg Speedman]

Is a tie good enough for a banner or do we have to be the #1 seed (even if we tie another team) in the BE tourney for a banner?

[TallTitan34]

Definitely banner worthy.  As is the 2003 CUSA one that still hangs.

[honkytonk]

Something that I had not noticed - we play Syracuse at home on a quick turnaround from their home game against Georgetown. I find it highly unlikely that they prepare for us in the time they have leading into their GU game. It will be either an emotional win or loss for them and I think they put little time into preparing for our game. Looking at their boards, all they care about is beating GU one last time (or twice)....the conference championship doesnt seem hugely important (they have won 2 of the last 3).

That sets up very nicely for us.

[brewcity77]

We're also on a quick turnaround from a road game at 'Nova where both Syracuse and Louisville lost. Those three days may determine who wins the league.