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Next up: A long offseason

Marquette
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Marquette
Scrimmage
Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
TV: NA
Schedule for 2024-25
New Mexico
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Who is MU's best player this year?

Davante Gardner
15 (7.8%)
Jamil Wilsonw
0 (0%)
Vander Blue
164 (85.4%)
Junior Cadougan
8 (4.2%)
Todd Mayo
5 (2.6%)

Total Members Voted: 192

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Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on February 11, 2013, 11:29:21 AM
Well, I voted Vander.  But you are making me think about it. 

I think the only thing that holds Davante back IMO is that he only plays 20.6 mpg versus 32.6 for Vander.  Now yes it could be argued that he is better in his 20 minutes than Vander is in his 32...but at some point sheer volume has to count for something.

If they were closer in minutes, I would be more persuaded by your argument.

This is exactly it.

Vander is the best player on our team because of the amount of responsibility he has.

Gardner could be the best 6th man in the country.  He's gotta be top 5.  It's just impossible to extrapolate how impactful DG would be if he were playing 35+ minutes a game, and there's a reason he *does not* play that much *ever.*

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Warrior's Path on February 11, 2013, 11:23:54 AM
I was waiting for the haters.

A few points

  • How is MU winning games this year. Is it more offense or defense?
  • What are MU's strengths and weaknesses? Perimeter based or interior based?
  • My perspective is not based only on offense. Gardner defensive rebounds, blocks shots, and steals the ball, and last I checked, those were all defensive stats. The "Net Points" contributions looks at a player's impact on both offense and defense.

From my perspective, MU has the #1 offense in the BIG EAST, and they're doing it with the #1 two-pt%, the #2 FTR, the #2 FT%, the #4 offensive rebounding percentage, and the #5 turnover rate. Defensively, they have the #4 two-pt%, the #6 FTR, and the #7 Def Reb%. Except for the defensive free throw rate and maybe turnover rate, I could make the argument that the best contributor in every single category listed is Gardner.

I understand that Gardner plays limited minutes, but he is so damn good in those limited minutes and the key factor in each of the areas where Marquette is doing well. I was just surprised that Blue was running away with the poll when the numbers say otherwise. At the least, I expected that it'd be a lot closer.

At the heart of it, this is just a silly internet/bar argument anyway.

How do you figure MU has the #1 offense in the BE?

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