VCU destroying Georgetown...Big East overrated?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Bull fooking crap lol.  Your post was nothing more than a stir the pot that the little 11 is doing better than the BEAST after round 2.

5-2 is .715%
7-4 is .636%

(for that matter, the ACC is 4-1 at .800 so far)

Not sure how presenting facts are stirring the pot.  I clearly said there is a lot of bball to be played.  So far, the Big Ten is doing the best, especially when their seeds were

1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 10

They should have gone 4-3 but went 5-2

Our seeds should have had us at 9-2 but we went 7-4

Not much to argue with, fortunately there is ton of basketball left and the Big Ten clearly has the team that is probably the best in the field, doesn't mean they'll win it all, but the odds are in their favor.

[redddog13]

As some of the A-10 fans have said tonight

With seeds

1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 9, 11

Anything less than 7 wins would be a complete embarrassment.  By seeding, we should have been 9-2.  We're 7-4 and the 11 seed had to pull that through for the conference.

A lot of golf left, but the conference needs to play better than it did.  The Nova and Ville games were there to be won.  G'Town was brutal and SJU not the same after they lost a key player.

Should have been 9-2? lulz.    6 of the seeds are very vulnerable draws where an upset would not be all that out of the ordinary.

You're goof.   No getting away  around it.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Should have been 9-2? lulz.    6 of the seeds are very vulnerable draws where an upset would not be all that out of the ordinary.

You're goof.   No getting away  around it.

Ken Pom Ratings said we should have been 10-0 with 1 game at 50-50 (George Mason and Nova)

Ken Pom...no way getting around it...he's a goof.   

[redddog13]

5-2 is .715%
7-4 is .636%

(for that matter, the ACC is 4-1 at .800 so far)

Not sure how presenting facts are stirring the pot.  I clearly said there is a lot of bball to be played.  So far, the Big Ten is doing the best, especially when their seeds were

What's the % if the BEAST wins one more game?    Two can spin your BS.

1, 3, 4, 8, 9, 10, 10

They should have gone 4-3 but went 5-2

Our seeds should have had us at 9-2 but we went 7-4

Not much to argue with, fortunately there is ton of basketball left and the Big Ten clearly has the team that is probably the best in the field, doesn't mean they'll win it all, but the odds are in their favor.

Should...   wow the little 11 won two 8/9 games and pulled one upset with a 10 seed against a lost TN team..   Give it up you goof.

[Norm]

Chicos,

As you have argued before, its all matchups. The Big Ten teams got very favorable matchups in the first round. As I said earlier, if UNLV and Tennessee were swapped for VCU and George Mason, my bet is that the Big Ten would be 3-4 and the Big East would be 9-2.

[GGGG]

Reddog...Chicos pretty much owned you here.  If you are going to counter, might as well bring some facts to the table.

I would say after round one, that the BE has been mediocre.  If they get four or five to the Sweet 16, which is completely doable, than I would feel that they are back on top after week one.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Chicos,

As you have argued before, its all matchups. The Big Ten teams got very favorable matchups in the first round. As I said earlier, if UNLV and Tennessee were swapped for VCU and George Mason, my bet is that the Big Ten would be 3-4 and the Big East would be 9-2.

Absolutely agree that matchups are what it's all about.  Doesn't change that Ken Pom had the conference 10-0 in predictions ane 50-50 game.  So far the conference has done ok but others are doing better.  So far....

[brewcity77]

Reddog...Chicos pretty much owned you here.  If you are going to counter, might as well bring some facts to the table.

I would say after round one, that the BE has been mediocre.  If they get four or five to the Sweet 16, which is completely doable, than I would feel that they are back on top after week one.

+1

When you resort to name-calling, it's safe to say you lost the argument.

I was expecting a bit better from the Big East. I had us at 9-2 (SJU and WVU losing) and frankly it's more than a bit disappointing to see Loserville and 'Nova throw away leads. Glad it happened to someone other than us, but still, those games had to be won. On the plus side, we're guaranteed two teams in the Sweet 16, and I really expect Pitt and ND should join them as top-2 seeds. WVU I expect to lose today, but largely because I believe they were a bit overseeded and UK was a bit underseeded. Here's hoping for 5 Big East teams (including MU) in the Sweet 16, but at this point, anything less than 4 and all the critics will be right.

[MUFC9295]

After Marquette, VCU is my 2nd favorite team. I've been cheering for them ever since I moved to Richmond.

I definitely don't mind them taking out Georgetown!

I watched VCU versus Georgetown at the UC.  Their fans and band were incredibly fun and almost as entertaining as their team.  I can see how their bandwagon might soon run out of seats.

[tower912]

3 of the 4 BEast losers had major losses, Kennedy for SJU, Knowles for L-ville, Wright ineffective for G-town.    And while the haters will say 'excuses', were we the same team with Jerel out or James playing on one foot?    Not every team is set up to overcome losses of key players at this time of year.   Villanova just continued their late season death spiral.   

[ChicosBailBonds]

3 of the 4 BEast losers had major losses, Kennedy for SJU, Knowles for L-ville, Wright ineffective for G-town.    And while the haters will say 'excuses', were we the same team with Jerel out or James playing on one foot?    Not every team is set up to overcome losses of key players at this time of year.   Villanova just continued their late season death spiral.   

Look how many of our own fans crapped on MU for the MSU game, despite that injury to McNeal.

[tower912]

So?    Some of our fans are sometimes irrational.   

[Marquette84]

Should have been 9-2? lulz.    6 of the seeds are very vulnerable draws where an upset would not be all that out of the ordinary.

Not only do I disagree that six of the draws were "very vulnerable.", I think our lowest seeds were given extremely favorable draws.

Pitt, ND, Syracuse, UConn and Louisvlle all drew automatic qualifiers--and almost by definition were not 'very vulnerable.'   Find me even one person who thought that Morehead State was given much of a shot at beating Louisville--no less claiming that UL was "very vulnerable" to them.  Ditto with Akron, Bucknell, Indiana State, and UNC-Ashville.  Suggesting that any of these made the Big East team "very vulnerable" can't be supported.

St. Johns, WVU, and Cincy all had beatable opponents--none of the presented any particular peril for the BE team.  IN St. Johns and Gonzaga, we saw both teams--can't say I saw anything out of GU that would make me think that St. JOhns was "very vulnerable".  WVU got Clemson--a team that was only one game over .500 in conference, and really had no truly impressive wins--certainly nothing like WVU's wins over ND or Purdue.  Missouri was just .500 in the B12, and was on a 4 out of loss clip.

That brings us to the three that might possibly

Villanova--guard oriented team, and managed to draw one of the shortest teams in NCAA (#289 in effective height).  You could say that Villanova was vulnerable because of their end-of-year collapse--but the draw should have been about as favorable for them as you could get--probably the easiest 8 seed.

Georgetown--Drew a team that most felt shouldn't have even been in the tourney!  Talk about a gift for a team reeling since the loss of Wright.

MU-- got a team that plays typically 7 deep and can't hit 3 pointers.


Sorry, but I don't think the draw made six big east teams "very vulnerable".  I think it was about as favorable as one could ask--especially for Villanova, MU and Georgetown.

[jsglow]

I think that the conference gets a B- so far through the early exams, but mid terms and finals are yet to come.  Long way to go.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

WV loss has conf grade dropping.  Will force me to cheer for ND tomorrow. Ugh.

[jmayer1]

As Tower stated, G-Town and SJU both dealt with major injuries. Neither of those teams was at full strength and I think a lot of people had those teams getting upset.  Nova has been absolutely terrible so it's no surprise they lost.  Obviously I didn't think Louisville was going to lose to a 13 seed, but deep down I didn't think MU was going to beat Xavier, let alone handle them easily.  So, at the end of the day, the BE's record in the round of 64 was exactly what I thought it was going to be. Good, but not great, showing thus far by the BE.

[chren21]

Now the BE gets screwed with 2 BE games.  Need to have PITT and ND win for sure.