Notre Dame to Big 10?

[mileskishnish72]

According to Orangebloods.com, ND is "on the clock" with a June 15th deadline to decide in or out with respect to the Big 10. Reportedly, if they opt in, the Big 10 won't expand any further (at this point).
They also report that the Pac 10 is considering invitations to as many as six schools.

[MUCam]

There's a theory floating around that the Big Ten's posturing is in large part a concerted effort to bring Notre Dame into the fold. In other words, the Big Ten is doing everything it can to make it impossible for Notre Dame to remain an independent.

That said, I think Delaney is much too shrewd for mere posturing. That man does not speak just to speak.

[willie warrior]

ND which stands for No Dick, will not go to the Big 10, because they think that they are the greatest thing in the world when it comes to football. And most people who are not ND fans know differently. ND fans are the most arrogant in all of college sports.

They deserve whatever happens to them after the realignment.

[M@RQUETTEW@RRIORS]

ND which stands for No Dick, will not go to the Big 10, because they think that they are the greatest thing in the world when it comes to football. And most people who are not ND fans know differently. ND fans are the most arrogant in all of college sports.

They deserve whatever happens to them after the realignment.

hmmm, sounds alot like the big ten with regards to football...

[NotAnAlum]

If this were to happen would the BE invite another BB only school or just leave it at 15 teams?  How would it effect BB, add another mirror game, conf champ gets a first round bye?

[Dawson Rental]

If this were to happen would the BE invite another BB only school or just leave it at 15 teams?  How would it effect BB, add another mirror game, conf champ gets a first round bye?

The Big East would HAVE to add another football school.  Eight really is the minimum to keep the conference BCS for football.

[Dawson Rental]

There's a theory floating around that the Big Ten's posturing is in large part a concerted effort to bring Notre Dame into the fold. In other words, the Big Ten is doing everything it can to make it impossible for Notre Dame to remain an independent.

That said, I think Delaney is much too shrewd for mere posturing. That man does not speak just to speak.

I think that the Big East should give Notre Dame a "push" by declaring that any school with a Division I Football must play football in the conference.  ND's then likely move to the Big Ten could save the Big East by ending (for now at least) Big Ten expansion without The Big East losing a football school.  Then we can sit back and watch while the Texas schools decide whether to tear apart the Big 12.

[Clarence]

This is Funny

Behind closed doors at the Big 12's annual meetings, the boys got together to hash out the topics of the day. You know...important things like where we're going to hold the Women's Basketball tournament for the next three years.
Just kidding. Only Baylor cares about that.
Anyway, everyone knows that's not what was on everyone's mind. And, thankfully, through the power of 'multiple sources', we have a strong report of what happened when the gang got together in Kansas City this week.
Enjoy. It may be the last time this current group gets together for their usual shenanigans.

Texas: I call this meeting to order. Today's agenda topic: Who stays and who goes. I'm looking for a quick vote. Obviously, I like bossing all of you around, so I'm in. Oklahoma?
Oklahoma: Hell, I'll stay. Do you really think I want to join the SEC or Pac-10? I still go into shell shock when a woman asks me if I have a Trojan on me, or if I walk past a store in the mall that sells 'Crocs'.
Oklahoma State: In, yo. I'm afraid if I take this game to LA, I may get shot.
Colorado: Staying. Unless the Pac-10 offers, and then I'll leave so fast there will be burn marks in the carpet. But they don't want me without you guys, so I'm probably still stuck with you assholes.
Missouri: Anyone know where the nearest U-Haul place is?
Texas: Jesus, can you be more obvious?
Missouri: What? Do you think I like being irrelevant? Do you think I like hoarding championships in fucking Softball? And it's not even the cool softball where you drink and wear inappropriate t-shirts that say things like "Balls Going Deep". It's the lesbian kind of softball where half of the cars in the parking lot are pink Cadillacs, and the chicks that show up wear visors and Birkenstocks.
Kansas State: I'm not really into PC, but there's a lot wrong with what you just said...
Missouri: You know what? I don't care. I'm going to go the Big Ten, wipe my ass with piles of TV money, and spend my winters buried in lake effects snow.
Texas: Wiping your ass with money is awesome.
Missouri: So, yeah, I'm out. unnatural carnal knowledge you, unnatural carnal knowledge you, (points at Kansas) and double unnatural carnal knowledge you.
Kansas: Well, that wasn't nice.
Texas: Alright, order...ORDER! Kansas State, what are you doing?
Kansas State: Are you kidding me? Do you think I want to join the Mountain West? In. A thousand times in.
Kansas: (Whispers to his attorney...) My lawyer says that it would be in my best interest to stay.
Kansas State: Your lawyer?
Kansas: At this point, I have the FBI and IRS so far up my ass that they've set up a branch office in my colon. So, I'm taking him wherever I go.
Kansas' Lawyer: No more questions.
Texas: What an embarrassment. Tech?
Texas Tech: In. I go where you go my liege.
Baylor: God spoke with me last night, and he said that I should form a conference with other like religious institutions supported by the Almighty himself. However, he said I had to fire Scott Drew because he's an Eddie Haskell-style prick of the highest order, and I said, "No." I like being good at basketball now. Also, those Oral Roberts kids creep me out. They're like a cult.
Iowa State: I will do anything to stay in this conference. Anything. I am not above handing out sexual favors, and I don't care who asks for it.
Texas: So if I ask you to have sex with a dirty hobo, you'll do it?
Iowa State: Absolutely. You can even tape it if you'd like. That would be a hundred times better than joining the MAC.
Texas: Alright, we'll put that on the agenda for tonight after dinner and drinks at Tomfooleries. Nebraska, what say you?
Nebraska: I am 100% committed to exploring all of my options.
Texas: Huh?
Nebraska: I am fully invested in this conference unless something better comes along.
Oklahoma: How does sitting on that fence feel?
Nebraska: It kind of chafes.
Texas: And, finally, I'm afraid to ask. A&M?
Texas A&M: I want to join the sex conference.
(Texas puts his face in his palms...)
Texas: Do you mean the SEC conference?
Texas A&M: Yeah, I want to join the sex conference.
Oklahoma: I think we should let him go.
Texas: We can't. The state legislature says he can't go anywhere without me.
(Texas A&M puts his mouth over the microphone in front of him on the table and tries to swallow it...)
Texas: Alright, so we've got ten stays, one go, and one guy who can't seem to figure out what he wants to do. Nebraska, what can we do to get you off of the fence?
Nebraska: Nothing really. Joining the Big Ten is appealing. I mean, it's like a time warp. Neither of us have really been relevant since the late 90's, so it will be kind of comforting to be amongst like-minded people. Michigan called me and invited me over for a 90210 and Melrose Place marathon.
Oklahoma: That's really sad.
Nebraska: Look, I want to be with other people who think time stopped after the late 90's. Do you know how much being me sucks right now? I haven't won a conference championship in ELEVEN years. Hell, even Kansas State over there has won a conference title since I have.
Kansas State: Kicked your ass too.
Nebraska: unnatural carnal knowledge off. And my basketball program is an embarrassment. In the Big Ten, Sadler ball will be considered 'up tempo', and my waning baseball program will be one of the southern most schools, so I'll have a leg up there.
Texas: Everything you just said there makes me sad.
Nebraska: You're sad? The only reason I'm not sad is because my entire state has been on Prozac since Tom Osborne retired. Do you really think we like Pelini? The guy wears sweatshirts on the sideline. SWEATSHIRTS. The guys in the navy blue polo shirts at Wal-Mart that greet me when I walk in look and act more professional than he does.
Oklahoma: Have you considered therapy?
Iowa State: I know a guy...
Dan Beebe: Hey, guys, what's up?
Texas: Dan, go back to your computer, keep playing Minesweeper, and we'll call you when we're done.
Beebe: Sure thing, boss.
Texas Tech: That was kind of harsh, don't you think?
Texas: He should be thankful he still has a job. We used a cardboard cutout of him a few weeks ago at a function with a tape player attached to its back looping random, non-committal statements, and no one knew it wasn't him until Baylor tried to hand him a plate of barbecued chicken and it dropped to the floor.
Texas A&M: I ate that chicken.
Oklahoma: Of course you did.
Texas A&M: It tasked like chicken.
Kansas State: I just...nevermind.
Iowa State: You guys will take him with you and not me?
Texas: He brings more televisions than you do.
Iowa State: But he's retarded!
Texas: He's not retarded; he's just misunderstood. He hasn't always been this way.
Iowa State: He's pissing himself again. Am I misunderstanding that?
(Texas A&M smiles as the warm urine runs down his leg...)
Texas: (Looks at A&M...) Look, I can't defend you forever. At some point, you're going to need to snap out of this.
Texas Tech: I've always wondered what goes on inside his head.
(Texas A&M stares at the wall...)

[mu-rara]

ROFLMAO

[TJ]

The Big East would HAVE to add another football school.  Eight really is the minimum to keep the conference BCS for football.

I almost posted that until I realized that Notre Dame doesn't count as one of the current 8.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I think that the Big East should give Notre Dame a "push" by declaring that any school with a Division I Football must play football in the conference.  ND's then likely move to the Big Ten could save the Big East by ending (for now at least) Big Ten expansion without The Big East losing a football school.  Then we can sit back and watch while the Texas schools decide whether to tear apart the Big 12.

The problem is if the Big 12 tears apart, the Big East still does anyway.  The SEC will ten raid West Virginia and Louisville for example.  Or the ACC.  The dominoes fall on this if any other major conference takes multiple teams.  If ND only leaves for the Big Ten and no other expansion happens, then we're golden.   If it's more than one, however, even if it's not the Big Ten....the ripple effect will be felt coast to coast most likely.

[Dawson Rental]

I almost posted that until I realized that Notre Dame doesn't count as one of the current 8.

going through many scenarios... thinking really fast... brain getting very warm...  uggg!

[Dawson Rental]

The problem is if the Big 12 tears apart, the Big East still does anyway.  The SEC will ten raid West Virginia and Louisville for example.  Or the ACC.  The dominoes fall on this if any other major conference takes multiple teams.  If ND only leaves for the Big Ten and no other expansion happens, then we're golden.   If it's more than one, however, even if it's not the Big Ten....the ripple effect will be felt coast to coast most likely.

I'm really not worried about the SEC taking a Big East school.  They are one of the three premier conferences (or four depending about how you feel about ACC football) with (mostly) only the top programs from their geographic area.  They have only three schools from states where they already have schools.  If they move, they will not move to to keep up with the Jones', they will go big.  I would not be surprised at all to see a Pac-10 SEC fight over the Texas schools with the winner being determined by whoever will be most flexible with letting Texas have a bigger cut of its own revenue. 

Louisville?  West Virginia?  The SEC can and will do better than that.  If the Pac-10 can win its play for half the Big 12, then the SEC will very likely raid the ACC, but again not just to add teams.  If they can't cherry pick the schools they want, I think that they'll hold pat.  I'm pretty sure that Florida would not be happy to add one or two instate rivals to the conference.  Would Kentucky even consider letting Louisville in?  There's no guarantee that the SEC could pull off a successful ACC raid.  If they do, the result could go either way for the Big East.  They'll be too many teams left to combine into one conference, unless, of course, they form a football schools only conference.  This is one of the two likely results I foresee with Marquette ending up out of the Big East.  (The other being that the Big 12 stays intact, and the Big East gets torn apart.)  If the ACC is weakened, the Big East could end up picking up its pick of what's left, or if the remainder of the ACC keeps its cool, it could be raiding the remaining Big East east coast teams, in which case the Big East looks "west" to the remnants of the Big 12 for its survival.

Four 16 team super conferences?  Not likely, at least this time out.  But one of the top six conferences will be gone, either the Big 12 or the Big East.  Right now its looking more likely to be the Big 12 due to the attraction that the Texas schools have for the other leagues.   If not, will be looking to that basketball only conference.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I'm really not worried about the SEC taking a Big East school.  They are one of the three premier conferences (or four depending about how you feel about ACC football) with (mostly) only the top programs from their geographic area.  They have only three schools from states where they already have schools.  If they move, they will not move to to keep up with the Jones', they will go big.  I would not be surprised at all to see a Pac-10 SEC fight over the Texas schools with the winner being determined by whoever will be most flexible with letting Texas have a bigger cut of its own revenue. 

Louisville?  West Virginia?  The SEC can and will do better than that.  If the Pac-10 can win its play for half the Big 12, then the SEC will very likely raid the ACC, but again not just to add teams.  If they can't cherry pick the schools they want, I think that they'll hold pat.  I'm pretty sure that Florida would not be happy to add one or two instate rivals to the conference.  Would Kentucky even consider letting Louisville in?  There's no guarantee that the SEC could pull off a successful ACC raid.  If they do, the result could go either way for the Big East.  They'll be too many teams left to combine into one conference, unless, of course, they form a football schools only conference.  This is one of the two likely results I foresee with Marquette ending up out of the Big East.  (The other being that the Big 12 stays intact, and the Big East gets torn apart.)  If the ACC is weakened, the Big East could end up picking up its pick of what's left, or if the remainder of the ACC keeps its cool, it could be raiding the remaining Big East east coast teams, in which case the Big East looks "west" to the remnants of the Big 12 for its survival.

Four 16 team super conferences?  Not likely, at least this time out.  But one of the top six conferences will be gone, either the Big 12 or the Big East.  Right now its looking more likely to be the Big 12 due to the attraction that the Texas schools have for the other leagues.   If not, will be looking to that basketball only conference.

We'll see

[Dawson Rental]

We'll see

Ancient Chinese curse:

"May you live in interesting times."

[MHMUFAN]

BC and Notre Dame just renewed their series for another 6 years it was announced today, doesn't sound like a team that is ready to join a new confrence and get tied into a schedule.

[pbiflyer]

ROFLMAO

One more:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/2010/6/4/1500646/the-rumormill-the-big-xii-to-pac

[TJ]

BC and Notre Dame just renewed their series for another 6 years it was announced today, doesn't sound like a team that is ready to join a new confrence and get tied into a schedule.

How much does it really change their schedule?  They already play half the B11 every year.

[ChicosBailBonds]

One more:
http://www.maizenbrew.com/2010/6/4/1500646/the-rumormill-the-big-xii-to-pac

Well played Myles

[rocky_warrior]

Really, nobody thinks the BE could end up being the winner in all this?

[GGGG]

Really, nobody thinks the BE could end up being the winner in all this?

No.  The best they can hope for is status quo.

[Skatastrophy]

Really, nobody thinks the BE could end up being the winner in all this?

I've always assumed that we'll come out on top.

I'm woefully underinformed, though.  My opinion is based purely on ego.

[Litehouse]

Really, nobody thinks the BE could end up being the winner in all this?

If we stay in tact, I'd consider that a win.  We really would only lose if Pitt, Syracuse, UConn, Rutgers or West Virginia decide to bolt and destabilize the football side.  Losing ND would suck, but if that means only ND goes to the Big Ten and this whole fiasco stops, then I'm fine with that.

If the Big 12 implodes, we could potentially pick up Kansas and K-State, which would be nice on the basketball side. 

Similarly, if the ACC gets raided by the SEC, we could potentially pick up BC, Maryland, UNC, NC State, Wake, Duke, Va. Tech or UVa.  Although, if that happens, it's probably more likely the remaining ACC schools would cherry-pick whoever they want from the Big East.

[MarquetteDano]

Man I am getting tired of all this conference chaos (not the posters here, the conference positioning, media, etc.).  If there will be three 20 team conferences fine.  Get it over with already.

The longer this lingers the worse it is for certain schools.  Just do it and be done with it.

[TJ]

Man I am getting tired of all this conference chaos (not the posters here, the conference positioning, media, etc.).  If there will be three 20 team conferences fine.  Get it over with already.

The longer this lingers the worse it is for certain schools.  Just do it and be done with it.

The ones driving all this obviously don't care what happens to anyone except themselves and their conference, so you're not going to see anyone drive up their timetable just to give others more time do deal with the fallout.