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MuMark

#26
Found this thread on Iowa State's board.

Thought it might be of interest since these guys have seen him play this year.

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/forum/mens-basketball/72571-scott-christopherson.html

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: MuMark on November 23, 2009, 12:12:37 PM
Brandon Jennings? lol....That is the standard now?

Ok I stipulate that Scott isn't as good as Jennings........ ::)


Iowa State has a decent team...they are not horrible. They have a first round pick playing center and Scott is somehow managing to get 22 minutes a game for them.

7 minutes more a game then Chris Colvin I might add....who we recruited, offered and hosted on an official visit.

If you can play in the Big 12 you can play in the Big East.

I'm not saying Scott is going to be all conference but to suggest that he can't play at this level because he struggled as a frosh(coming off an injury no less) is just silly.

I bet if you go to the Iowa State board they are thrilled to have him.

Maybe he didn't fit Buzz's system...which is fine....but neither do Coobie or Acker.

Don't go applying logic and fact.

Just go with "he can't play at MU".

lab_warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 23, 2009, 12:27:26 PM
YES, HE WOULD.  (I mean...why bother???)

Quote from another thread, with something called "3pt. shooting percentages":
--3 point shooting:

Butler - 80%
DJO - 43%
Buycks - 50%
Acker - 38%-----

So yeah, I BOTHERED.  SC would NOT be the best shooter on this team.  What really isn't debatable, though, is that he would get annihilated with his inability to dribble and could not defend anyone.  I won't miss the kid.

GGGG

Quote from: lab_warrior on November 23, 2009, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from another thread, with something called "3pt. shooting percentages":
--3 point shooting:

Butler - 80%
DJO - 43%
Buycks - 50%
Acker - 38%-----

So yeah, I BOTHERED.  SC would NOT be the best shooter on this team.  What really isn't debatable, though, is that he would get annihilated with his inability to dribble and could not defend anyone.  I won't miss the kid.


Picking out 3 point shooting percentages from three games against inferior competition is really not an accurate way to determine how good a shooter he would be. 

I'm sorry you won't miss him.  I think he would have been a decent role player on this team.

cheebs09

By the sounds of the Iowa State fans he improved on a lot of his weaknesses. They say his strengths include his defense and taking it to the hoop. They say he is pretty quick. Sounds like a different player than we saw. I believe he had a knee injury his freshman year so that could have contributed to it. You never know how much that one year of sitting out helped him, and if he would have improved that much while he was here. Either way it sounds like he is doing well, which is good because it sounded like he was a great guy.

ChicosBailBonds

Scott was a gritty player and smart.  He does not fit the athletic mold that Buzz is looking for, but he certainly is a good player.  He's in the Big 12 and should do nicely in a major conference.  He would help this team, especially when teams start playing zone on us (which they will do in spades).

Has anyone seen Mr. Hayward and UncleJohn in the same room together?


After reading Hayward's comments that Mbao is 25 lbs away from being a superstar.....classic.   Just classic.

MR.HAYWARD

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on November 23, 2009, 10:56:59 AM
I know you are a creature of extremes... and while I partially agree with you, I just don't think the kid is as terrible as you think he is.

not saying he is terrible,  but i am saying he is no where near as good as the scholarship players on our roster.  then people say we need a shooter, that can do nothing else.  Well it appears we have guys that can do other things and shoot too.

lab_warrior

In summary, I'd rather have Buycks, DJO, and Vander for the next 2-3 years than SC.  I mean, c'mon.  And if we're comparing "decent role players", yeah, I'd rather have EWill and Fulce. 
And we had plenty of "gritty and smart" players under Mike Deane.  That didn't work out well.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 23, 2009, 01:09:16 PM

Picking out 3 point shooting percentages from three games against inferior competition is really not an accurate way to determine how good a shooter he would be. 

And yet isn't that to a large extent what we're doing in discussing how much game Scott Christopherson suddenly has and/or how much he would help this team ... never mind the fact his opponents are now a combined 1-12 against D-I competition? Apparently it's OK to discuss Christopherson's tough D and ability to get to the hole against inferior competition.

Anyhow, perimeter shooting has been a pleasant surprise for MU this year. And, to the best of my knowledge, knocking down an open look at the BC against Grambling isn't any different than knocking down an open look at the BC against any team in the Big East. The issue is whether they can get open looks. If they do, we should at least feel slightly more optimisitc about their ability to hit them after the first three games.

And, of course, Jimmy Butler will not shoot 80 percent from out there all season.
And Lazar Hayward won't shoot 10 percent all season either.

QuoteI'm sorry you won't miss him.  I think he would have been a decent role player on this team.

Perhaps he would have. Perhaps not. One would have to wonder, though, that given his deficiencies in other areas of the game, would he get enough minutes to make a difference, could he shoot consistently without consistent minutes, would his ability to shoot outweigh his inability to handle the ball and defend?
Who knows? It's impossible to say, which is why I don't understand how anyone can say with even the smallest bit of confidence how much, if any, he would help this team.

bilsu

One ot the things that I believed effected peoples opinion, was that physically he does not look like he should be on the basketball court. He did not look like a basketball player. The opposite is true of Mbao. Mbao with his height and agility looks like he should be on the basketball court. Mbao is the best looking worst player I have ever seen. MU had very quick guards, which also made Scott look bad in comparison.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: bilsu on November 23, 2009, 02:57:07 PM
One ot the things that I believed effected peoples opinion, was that physically he does not look like he should be on the basketball court. He did not look like a basketball player. The opposite is true of Mbao. Mbao with his height and agility looks like he should be on the basketball court. Mbao is the best looking worst player I have ever seen. MU had very quick guards, which also made Scott look bad in comparison.

Put 25lbs on Mbao and he's a superstar.


I was surprised to see Christopherson is now up to 200lbs.  He's ripped, too.

MR.HAYWARD

Quote from: bilsu on November 23, 2009, 02:57:07 PM
One ot the things that I believed effected peoples opinion, was that physically he does not look like he should be on the basketball court. He did not look like a basketball player. The opposite is true of Mbao. Mbao with his height and agility looks like he should be on the basketball court. Mbao is the best looking worst player I have ever seen. MU had very quick guards, which also made Scott look bad in comparison.

i think the reason people felt that way is becuase he was very slow and could not keep in front of anyone.  Also when he dribbled with his left hand he looked like a right handed third grader dribbling with his left.   

MR.HAYWARD

Christophersons line against the might Northwestern Mildcats...

Scott Christopherson, G   15   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0   0   0   0   0   4   0

the two none zero numbers were the fifteen minutes he played and the 4 fouls he commited.

Frozena would have been more effective

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on November 29, 2009, 06:11:19 PM
Christophersons line against the might Northwestern Mildcats...

Scott Christopherson, G   15   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0   0   0   0   0   4   0

the two none zero numbers were the fifteen minutes he played and the 4 fouls he commited.

Frozena would have been more effective

You impress me with your ability to make yourself look even worse then you did the day before. Keep up the good work.

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: MR.HAYWARD on November 29, 2009, 06:11:19 PM
Christophersons line against the might Northwestern Mildcats...

Scott Christopherson, G   15   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0   0   0   0   0   4   0

the two none zero numbers were the fifteen minutes he played and the 4 fouls he commited.

Frozena would have been more effective

Seriously, do we need a "rip on SC thread"?

The kid transferred, no need blast him now.

77ncaachamps

^^^ agreed.

We all know how important a year of growth can be.
He did the right things and now is reaping the benefits.
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