One/two and done- Who's next?

[bma725]

Supposedly Blackshear wants to play college ball with his AAU teamate PF Mike Shaw, in a package deal.  Both are top 50 players.  Illinois is the leader right now.

On a side note, they both played on the same AAU team with our new 2010 PG recruit Smith.

Illinois is definitely not the leader for the duo.  Shaw seems to like them, but Blackshear doesn't want to go to Champaign.  Conversely, Blackshear seems to really like Louisville, but they don't have much interest in Shaw.

[bma725]

talk about dreaming, that shaw kid is a 6'8 PF and to get those two kids would be absolutely incredible....backcourt of DJO, Jr, VB, Smith, Blackshear with wings Maymon, Jones, Ewill, and post players in Otule, Mbao, Shaw- now THAT is a stacked final 4 contender...... make it happen Buzz!

Shaw is not a post player. 

He's listed a power forward, but prefers playing on the wing.  The knock on him has been that he plays soft.  He's got the skills to be an inside force, but would rather shoot perimeter jumpers than bang in the post.

[Doctor V]

Shaw is not a post player. 

He's listed a power forward, but prefers playing on the wing.  The knock on him has been that he plays soft.  He's got the skills to be an inside force, but would rather shoot perimeter jumpers than bang in the post.

I figured Id stand corrected, thank you sir  .... with that size the kid better learn to bang down low a bit. Aright buzz they cant agree on UofI of UL, make them agree on MU. Then make Otule or Mbao atleast a step better than our last few big men, and we are in business

[Ellenson Guerrero]

I think everyone on this board severely underestimates how good you need to be to get drafted. We just watched three of the best players in MU history all get passed up last summer. How anyone can say Erik Williams could get drafted at any point in the foreseeable future is beyond me. Saying they need alot of work to get NBA ready is the understatement of the century.

[GGGG]

How anyone can say Erik Williams could get drafted at any point in the foreseeable future is beyond me.

+1,000,000

There are dozens of players like Williams in the NCAAs right now.

[NavinRJohnson]

Vander Blue will play a maximum of 2 years for MU.

[RawdogDX]

Maymon does not have the hops to be a pro. In fact if Buzz is any kind of recruiter, I do not think Maymom ever starts at MU. Mbao right now will need all four years and should have been red shirted this year. At 6-1 DJO is too small to play the 2g in the pros. Eric Williams has enough athleticism to have a chance. Maymon has the higher basketball IQ, but Williams is more athletic. My guess would be Vander Blue.

Agree on all points.

[Marq]

I think everyone on this board severely underestimates how good you need to be to get drafted. We just watched three of the best players in MU history all get passed up last summer. How anyone can say Erik Williams could get drafted at any point in the foreseeable future is beyond me. Saying they need alot of work to get NBA ready is the understatement of the century.

Its cause the NBA draft is all about "potential" and E Will has got the most potential on this team. I agree he needs a lot of work but his upside is higher than anyone on this team.

[Hards Alumni]

Its cause the NBA draft is all about "potential" and E Will has got the most potential on this team. I agree he needs a lot of work but his upside is higher than anyone on this team.

no.

[Doctor V]

no.

thanks for your insight. brilliant minds like yours should be working on a cure for cancer

[Hards Alumni]

no one on this team is a one or two and done player.

get it through your heads.

I like the talent, but seriously, you all sound like a bunch of Bucky fans.

[oldwarrior81]

With Wade, Diener, Novak and Matthews in the NBA, I was wondering... Has there ever been another time in Marquette's history where we have four or more alumni on a roster?  1978-1980?

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I think you're right on the years.  By my count there were 8 former MU players in the league during 1979 and again in 1980.
1979 - Chones - Cavs, McNeill - Pistons, Lucas - Blazers, Tatum - Celtics/Pistons, Walton - Bucks, Ellis - Nuggets, Lee - Hawks/Cavs, Whitehead - Clippers
1980 - Chones - Lakers, Lucas - Blazers/Nets, Tatum - Cavs, Walton - Bucks, Ellis - Nuggets, Lee - Cavs/Lakers, Whitehead - Clippers/Jazz, Toone - Sixers

[Marq]

no.

Hard_Alumni: have you ever watched an NBA draft?  The word potential is the most commonly used word coming out of any analysists mouth during the draft when talking about a player and his skill set.

[TomW1365]

With Wade, Diener, Novak and Matthews in the NBA, I was wondering... Has there ever been another time in Marquette's history where we have four or more alumni on a roster?  1978-1980?

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I think you're right on the years.  By my count there were 8 former MU players in the league during 1979 and again in 1980.
1979 - Chones - Cavs, McNeill - Pistons, Lucas - Blazers, Tatum - Celtics/Pistons, Walton - Bucks, Ellis - Nuggets, Lee - Hawks/Cavs, Whitehead - Clippers
1980 - Chones - Lakers, Lucas - Blazers/Nets, Tatum - Cavs, Walton - Bucks, Ellis - Nuggets, Lee - Cavs/Lakers, Whitehead - Clippers/Jazz, Toone - Sixers

Wow!  You know your Marquette history!  Thanks for looking ito that... I was hoping someone would take that question and run with it.  I had no idea there were that many former MU players in the league at one time!  Then again, I've been a fan since '96...
So in three years, after McNeil & James get picked up, DJO, V-Blue, Maymon and Blackshear get drafted, Marquette will have 10 former players on NBA rosters!    Even in a dream world, we wouldn't be close to having 16 in the league at once!

[bork]

Tony Smith, Jim MacIlvaine, Amal McCaskill and Chris Crawford were in the NBA at the same time. 1997-2001

[Warrior97]

Even in a dream world, we wouldn't be close to having 16 in the league at once!

While I believe the 8 we had in the late 70s and early 80s will not be seen for sometime I think the current trajectory is encouraging.  Wade will obviously be there for some time and he is the oldest of the active NBA players.  The other three players are not stars, but have shown some potential to remain on an NBA roster.  With our current MU roster and recruits I don't see us adding 4 more players to the NBA in the next few years, but I do see the potential for 1 or 2 and if Buzz's recruiting continues we could see even more.

[CAINMUTINY]

This thread borders on ridiculous. The only two who could possibly have the talent to leave early and I use that term lightly, is Mbao and Vander Blue. 

EWILLS may have a ton of upside but he's not talented enough to simply get by based solely on his athleticism and his awesome work ethic.

Potential is certainly a factor to NBA teams but the draft is designed to bring in platyers capable of playing right away, not years later. 

[Hards Alumni]

Hard_Alumni: have you ever watched an NBA draft?  The word potential is the most commonly used word coming out of any analysists mouth during the draft when talking about a player and his skill set.

I've watched it for over a decade.  That being said, Erik Williams doesn't even start, let alone play anything but garbage minutes.

To say he will get drafted at this point is total lunacy.

[Marq]

I've watched it for over a decade.  That being said, Erik Williams doesn't even start, let alone play anything but garbage minutes.

To say he will get drafted at this point is total lunacy.

So obviously you agree that the NBA draft is all about potential and what could become. So where in the world did I say that he was going to be drafted? E Will has the one of the highest ceilings on the team and if he reaches that ceiling then he has chance to be drafted. I never said he was going to be drafted but he could be if he reaches that ceiling say in three or four years.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I've watched it for over a decade.  That being said, Erik Williams doesn't even start, let alone play anything but garbage minutes.

To say he will get drafted at this point is total lunacy.

But he was a top 100 player out of high school

[Hards Alumni]

So obviously you agree that the NBA draft is all about potential and what could become. So where in the world did I say that he was going to be drafted? E Will has the one of the highest ceilings on the team and if he reaches that ceiling then he has chance to be drafted. I never said he was going to be drafted but he could be if he reaches that ceiling say in three or four years.

thats great and all, but what is this thread about?

I never said he had no shot of getting drafted, I merely said he hasn't shown he can even get off the bench.