who's gone

[nyg]

Maybe Cubes based upon his PT reduction and his poor shooting.  Since the 2/20/08 game against St. John's (11 game totals), here are his shooting stats:

Total FGs  5 for 31 (16%)

3 Point FGs  4 for 23 (17%)

[CTWarrior]

Maybe Cubes based upon his PT reduction and his poor shooting.  Since the 2/20/08 game against St. John's (11 game totals), here are his shooting stats:

Total FGs  5 for 31 (16%)

3 Point FGs  4 for 23 (17%)

I see your point, but I don't think an 11 game stretch in the  grand scheme of things is going to be a huge factor in the determination of who may leave.  Maybe I'm naive, but I honestly believe that Crean really cares about these kids and what is best for them. 

I think at any maor D-I hoops program, the guys who aren't getting much PT have to ask themselves if they'd be better off going somewhere where they could play more.  Hopefully, Crean has a sit down with each kid at the end of each season and has a frank discussion about where the kid stands, what he needs to work on moving forward to improve his standing, etc. 

If someone sees the writing on the wall after one of these discussions and decides to transfer, you just know some people will say that the coach ran the kid off and turn it into a big negative, but what he would really be doing is looking out for both the player's and Marquette's best interests.  Which is, of course, his job.

[nyg]

I only used the last 11 games as an example since his PT really went downhill from there, with Acker picking up his time.  Not a real good mindset going into the off-season when decisions have to be rendered. Your points are valid. 

My speculation would be as others with Hazel and Scott C. transferring elsewhere to actually get playing time.  I just hope the situation gets resolved in an expedited manner.

[1990Warrior]

With respect to who stays/goes, what are the important dates/deadlines that we should be aware of?

[Big Papi]

Do all four recruits been accepted into the university or are grades/ACT scores a concern?  That is where I would look first. 

I know Hazel is high on everyone's list as he hasn't received any substantial playing time but with Trend, Barro and Fitz gone, playing time is available and frankly I thought he looked good in the limited minutes he played.  Just not good enough to get playing minutes. 

That leaves a guard most likely to leave if the four recruits are accepted.  Dom being the most obvious player leaving due to his family situation.  If not Dom than it boils down to Christopherson or Cube.  I have seen enough of Cube to think he is staying at MU until he graduates but if Cube were to leave it would not be to another D-1 school but to go back home.  Again I just don't see it. 

That leaves Christopherson as the second most likely to leave if it is not Dom.  Christopherson could be a hell of a player at a mid-major school.  I just don't know if he is quick enough to make an impact in the Big East.

[NCMUFan]

With a weak front court, and from the what we have seen of Hazel, I do believe Hazel will be here.  I believe all our incoming recruits will come with the exception of maybe Fulce who may follow Buzz Williams.  That leaves a guard not coming back.  I have no idea how this will play out.  It be great if one of the guards get drafted into the NBA.  DJ is great off the penetration.  I am amazed that the open shots are what challenges him.

[NotAnAlum]

It has been stated a number of times that DJ has or will have enough credits to graduate and is ready to start making money even if its overseas (still don't see him making an NBA roster).  I think he is THE REASON TC exceeded his scripts in the first place.  Hazel is really no worse off than Burke was at the same point in his freshman year.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I've read comments on our blog and elsewhere that people think McNeal is going pro and leaving.  I just don't see where folks are getting that from.  He's a terrific player and did well down the stretch but he's another guy that needs another year of playing.  Maybe I'm in the minority, but some are suggesting done deal sure thing, don't see that at all.

[Secret of the Ouse]

I've read comments on our blog and elsewhere that people think McNeal is going pro and leaving.  I just don't see where folks are getting that from.  He's a terrific player and did well down the stretch but he's another guy that needs another year of playing.  Maybe I'm in the minority, but some are suggesting done deal sure thing, don't see that at all.

I see where your coming from, but everyone is only thinking about DJ going pro, but in comparison to McNeal, McNeal has a better shot at the NBA right now.  One this is for sure, if no guard leaves in the off season Crean is going to have more guards then he can handle (James, McNeal, Matthews, Acker, Cubes, Christopherson, Williams, Taylor) if there were such a thing, we would have too many guards next year

[Pakuni]

I've read comments on our blog and elsewhere that people think McNeal is going pro and leaving.  I just don't see where folks are getting that from.  He's a terrific player and did well down the stretch but he's another guy that needs another year of playing.  Maybe I'm in the minority, but some are suggesting done deal sure thing, don't see that at all.

Agreed.
Jerel is a fantastic college player, but the NBA doesn't have a lot of openings for 6'2" guards who can't play the point and aren't fantastic long-range shooters.
I suppose it wouldn't hurt him to "test the waters" but I suspect that if he does, he'll find the pool temperature very chilly. He's a guy who, with the expanded rosters, may eventually find himself on an NBA bench. But the chances of him being drafted next year, even in the second round, are pretty slim, IMO. Far slimmer than those of DJ. Jerel may be the better college player, but DJ, for all his faults, can play the point and has the kind of athleticism NBA teams want.

[passion of da coach]

buzz williams is leaving?

[ATWizJr]

are we sure that it is Buzz who is leaving and TC staying?

[ChicosBailBonds]

buzz williams is leaving?

Buzz is rumored for the head job at TCU along with many other names.  Rest assured, if he takes the head coaching position at TCU it was because Crean ran him off.   

[rocky_warrior]

buzz williams is leaving?

Chicos beat me to it, but the answer is "not necessarily".  He could end up at TCU, but who knows.  Here's the original thread:
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=7418.0

[bma725]

Given how his experience in New Orleans went, the odds of Buzz taking another job at a struggling lower level school right away aren't that high.  If he waits a couple of years, given how much good press he's getting and how much the players like him, he'll be able to get a much better job.

[OneMadWarrior]

First off, yes we are one scholarship over the limit, but that may be becasue they are not sure if all players will qualify next year. Second and of the so called 4 star recruits there is no chance that they leave. I think nexts years team has a potential to be Crean's best team ever. And to be a preseason Big east favorite.

[augoman]

First off, yes we are one scholarship over the limit, but that may be becasue they are not sure if all players will qualify next year. Second and of the so called 4 star recruits there is no chance that they leave. I think nexts years team has a potential to be Crean's best team ever. And to be a preseason Big east favorite.

"4 star recruits"?  according to rivals we have 2-3's and 2-2's.

[ChicosBailBonds]

First off, yes we are one scholarship over the limit, but that may be becasue they are not sure if all players will qualify next year. Second and of the so called 4 star recruits there is no chance that they leave. I think nexts years team has a potential to be Crean's best team ever. And to be a preseason Big east favorite.

"4 star recruits"?  according to rivals we have 2-3's and 2-2's.

Take it with a grain of salt.  Rivals doesn't even list Tyshawn Taylor as being offered by North Carolina and yet Williams did offer him the final week when they lost out on Shumpert.

All four guys were ranked 3 stars by Scout some time ago, this is before Nick Williams was honored as Alabama's 6A player of the year last week.  Taylor's team won the state title, Fulce is leading the league (Junior college) at 11.8 rebounds per game, and Otule is coming off an injury so not a ton of news there.

[bma725]

First off, yes we are one scholarship over the limit, but that may be becasue they are not sure if all players will qualify next year. Second and of the so called 4 star recruits there is no chance that they leave. I think nexts years team has a potential to be Crean's best team ever. And to be a preseason Big east favorite.

"4 star recruits"?  according to rivals we have 2-3's and 2-2's.

5 other services list Taylor in their top 100(HoopScoop, HoopMasters, ESPN, USA Today, and Rise Magazine), 3 other services list Williams(ESPN, HoopScoop and Rise). 

Everyone separates their JUCO rankings from the regular ranking, but the one place they are put together is in HoopScoop's composite class ranking where they combine all HS, Prep School and JUCO players for a given year.  They had Joe Fulce as a 4 Star recruit which for them is a player between 80-100(no specific number is given). 

The recruiting class is #20 in the country according to HoopMasters/CSTV.  HoopScoop has it as #24.

Rivals is the one that seems to be missing the boat.

[downtown85]

I hope they all come...