Marquette seeks to expand geographic student diversity

[The Sultan]

It's been that way since at least 2007. I think you can get a waiver if you live within 40 miles.

Pretty sure that was the case as far back as the 90s.

[Macallan 18]

A Two-year residency requirement for freshman and sophomores? Did I read that right. Locals can't live at home? Am I missing something?

You can get an exception to live at home if you reside with a parent or legal guardian within a 35-mile radius of campus.

https://www.marquette.edu/residence-life/policies.php#residency

Last I looked the cheapest co-ed dorm option is a triple in Abbottsford for $12,980 for the year. Some old timers could have probably gotten their Bachelor's, Master's and Doctorate from Marquette for that price.

https://www.marquette.edu/central/bursar/tuition-housing-fees-2023-24.php#Rm_Bd_rates

[mu_hilltopper]

With the Common App, kids can apply to up to 20 schools at one time with the click of a button and not pay an application fee for each school.

It isn't uncommon for kids to just apply to schools just to say (and for their parents to brag about) how many they got admitted to, thus the low yield on admitted students colleges are seeing.

That's not exactly accurate.  My son is a HS senior and yeah, used the common app.  Every school he applied to had an application fee, and every school had 1-2-3 extra essays that required significant time.

He applied to 7 schools, 4 public, 3 private, none of them were just a click.

(There is a process called Questbridge that have app fees waived, but that's for low-income families.)

[Uncle Rico]

Marquette needs to quit admitting women

[Jay Bee]

Marquette needs to quit admitting women

What is a woman?

[Uncle Rico]

What is a woman?

Do you ask that a lot?

[Billy Hoyle]

Pretty sure that was the case as far back as the 90s.

That is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.

[The Sultan]

That is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.

It's also better for student outcomes.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.

I wouldn't call two years common.  One year is common. Marquette is definitely in the minority with a two year requirement.

[Warriors4ever]

I'm just getting back to this thread now.firstly, I wasn't criticizing doing campus visits, was commenting as another prior poster had mentioned not visiting campuses.
Some good points have been made regarding not only the geographic area MU attracts people from, but also how the decline in organized religion has led to a decline in the number of Catholic high schools, which certainly were a traditional feeder back in the day. And how the common application means a lot of kids apply to many more schools than we did when each application was separate and cost money.

I know statistically the success and visibility of our basketball team has in the past led to an increase in applications and hopefully retention of those applicants.

[Jay Bee]

I know statistically the success and visibility of our basketball team has in the past led to an increase in applications and hopefully retention of those applicants.

Fortunately the bball squad takes its annual nose dive in the second half of the season, after most kids have already selected their college destination.

[Billy Hoyle]

I wouldn't call two years common.  One year is common. Marquette is definitely in the minority with a two year requirement.

Among private schools it is. Among BE schools:

Butler - 3 years
Creighton - 2 years
DePaul - none (not enough space)
Georgetown - 3 years
MU - 2 years
Providence - 3 years
Seton Hall - none
St. John's - 1 year (not enough space)
UConn - 1 year
Nova - 2 years and guaranteed for a third year
Xavier - 2 years
St. Thomas (future BE school) - 2 years

Looking at the private schools in the A10:
SLU - 2 years
Dayton - 2 years
Fordham - 4 years guaranteed
St. Bonaventure - 3 years
Duquense - 2 years
Richmond - 2 years
Loyola - 2 years
Davidson - 4 years
St. Joe's - 2 years
GW - 2 years

Some random others:
Duke - 3 years
Drake - 2 years
Gonzaga - 2 years
Northwestern - 2 years
Santa Clara - 2 years
LMU - All FT students under 21
ND - 3 years
Evansville - 2 years

And I agree with Sultan - living on campus, especially for the first two years, is better for student outcomes

[Hards Alumni]

Of course, MU needs to expand their geographic footprint. Any map-reading census analyst knows that!

Brother and Sister Scoopers have noted that 70 percent of MU's student population comes from Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota. Those that don't tend to come from Roman Catholic High Schools in Michigan, Ohio and the Northeast.

All of Marquette's traditional markets have seen population increases at or below the national average. The country has increased in population since 1970 from 200 million to 330 million. A disproportionate share of that growth has been in states like Tennessee, Florida, Texas, Arizona, the Carolinas, Georgia and California. These are not places where Marquette does well.

I grew up in Nashville and went to a Catholic High School there. I was one of two in my class of 227 that went to Marquette. Both of us had strong family ties to Wisconsin -- and, for that matter, to Marquette. That's the kind of place that Marquette will have to do much better if they intend to grow outside Wisconsin.

Marquette also is fighting a battle in that folks aren't as focused on organized religion as they used to be. Church attendance is down everywhere and with most denominations. That begs the question of why someone from the South, Southwest or West would spend the money to send their students far from home when, in many cases, each of the growth states have fine state and private universities.

Vanderbilt has recognized some of this trend and is building a new graduate school in West Palm Beach, FL. That amazes me because Vanderbilt's campus is beautiful and located in one of the nation's "it" cities. Yet, they're going to WPB because tha's where the people are!

I doubt a sunbelt campus is the right idea for Marquette but the administration has a huge challenge ahead of them! 

Overall the pool of Catholics shrinks every year, as does it's importance to Marquette.

Hard truth for the believers in the man in the sky, but that's just the way society is trending.  Religion is on the decline worldwide

[Uncle Rico]

Overall the pool of Catholics shrinks every year, as does it's importance to Marquette.

Hard truth for the believers in the man in the sky, but that's just the way society is trending.  Religion is on the decline worldwide

Thank God

[swoopem]

That is correct, and common across the country (some have three year requirements). My nephew at MSU has as two year requirement. The exception when I was there during the 90s was if the family lived within a 30 mile radius and I had classmates who would attempt to use the addresses of uncles, grandparents, etc and often were denied that waiver. Room and Board are a revenue generator for schools.

MSU does not have a 2 year requirement. Maybe your nephew is on a scholarship or something that requires it but for the average student, there isn't one

[The Sultan]

I wouldn't call two years common.  One year is common. Marquette is definitely in the minority with a two year requirement.

Among private schools it is very common. Among public schools it is uncommon.

[Billy Hoyle]

MSU does not have a 2 year requirement. Maybe your nephew is on a scholarship or something that requires it but for the average student, there isn't one

They switched to two years post-COVID.
https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2020/reinstate-second-year-on-campus-living-requirement

My niece is at Michigan and will be able to move off-campus as a sophomore.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

Neither my roommate nor I did a campus visit. He was from CA and I was from NJ. We both had a family member who attended MU, but I am not sure a campus visit would have influenced us either way. After all in our day there was no "campus", just downtown Milwaukee.

On our floor my roommate was from Boston , next door the two were from Connecticut and California. Others on my floor were from Hawaii, Florida, Virginia ,Mass., Indiana and West Virginia. That's the breadth of my memory

[muwarrior69]

On our floor my roommate was from Boston , next door the two were from Connecticut and California. Others on my floor were from Hawaii, Florida, Virginia ,Mass., Indiana and West Virginia. That's the breadth of my memory

On my floor they were from all over: New York, Texas, Arizona, Maryland, DC, Puerto Rico and Sparta Wisconsin and more. Quite a few of my classmates were from Wauwatosa, West Allis, Brown Deer and Mequon. The "townies" had cars. Those of us who lived on "campus" could not have a car, no parking was available.