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ATL MU Warrior

#50
January 20, 2025, 05:43:05 PM
Quote from: drbob on January 20, 2025, 04:27:57 PMLooking for an offense that is not so one dimensional. Guess we will wait and see what happens this year. Hope we win it ALL !!!
You know, I actually wonder if never shooting the mid range shot actually makes it harder for us to get good shots at the rim?  Defenses know we're not shooting it so they can sell out to protect the rim. 

Would it actually make it easier to get to the rim if we took a few per game and made the defense have to at least consider that we might? 

Uncle Rico

#51
January 20, 2025, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 20, 2025, 05:43:05 PMYou know, I actually wonder if never shooting the mid range shot actually makes it harder for us to get good shots at the rim?  Defenses know we're not shooting it so they can sell out to protect the rim. 

Would it actually make it easier to get to the rim if we took a few per game and made the defense have to at least consider that we might? 

Nobody shoots mid-range jump shots.  Teams actively encourage opponents to do so
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MUfan12

#52
January 20, 2025, 06:01:24 PM
Kam, who has an assist to turnover ratio of 4 to 1, is not a "real point guard."

F*cking hell

tower912

#53
January 20, 2025, 06:05:39 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 20, 2025, 06:01:24 PMKam, who has an assist to turnover ratio of 4 to 1, is not a "real point guard."

F*cking hell
Scoop after a loss. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

#54
January 20, 2025, 06:08:08 PM
Quote from: MUfan12 on January 20, 2025, 06:01:24 PMKam, who has an assist to turnover ratio of 4 to 1, is not a "real point guard."

F*cking hell

6th in the nation for assist rate.  For reference, Kolek was 42.1 last year and Kam is 41.5 this year.  Kolek finished 4th in assist rate last season.

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We R Final Four

#55
January 20, 2025, 06:14:56 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 20, 2025, 05:43:05 PMYou know, I actually wonder if never shooting the mid range shot actually makes it harder for us to get good shots at the rim?  Defenses know we're not shooting it so they can sell out to protect the rim. 

Would it actually make it easier to get to the rim if we took a few per game and made the defense have to at least consider that we might? 
Izzo certainly figured it out when he needed.

TheBlackJerryWest

#56
January 20, 2025, 06:38:56 PM
It's pretty simple. Too much dribbling and not enough passing. Stop Kam from going to his left, and you stop our entire offense. Serious ball movement required to open things up for other folks, and make defenses work harder. Need to adjust.

The Sultan

#57
January 20, 2025, 06:40:25 PM
Quote from: TheBlackJerryWest on January 20, 2025, 06:38:56 PMIt's pretty simple. Too much dribbling and not enough passing. Stop Kam from going to his left, and you stop our entire offense. Serious ball movement required to open things up for other folks, and make defenses work harder. Need to adjust.

They made adjustments in the second half. The offense flowed much better even though shots didn't fall.  I'm actually encouraged.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

junglecat022

#58
January 20, 2025, 06:54:07 PM
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 20, 2025, 05:43:05 PMYou know, I actually wonder if never shooting the mid range shot actually makes it harder for us to get good shots at the rim?  Defenses know we're not shooting it so they can sell out to protect the rim. 

Would it actually make it easier to get to the rim if we took a few per game and made the defense have to at least consider that we might? 

Agree. I'm not saying we need to be taking these shots regularly, because majority of the time our layup/dunk/3pt focused offense gets the job done. BUT when teams are packing the paint or 3s aren't falling, it would be nice to have guys who are comfortable in the mid-range (ala Daryl Morsell or even Oso for that matter).


The Sultan

#59
January 20, 2025, 06:57:26 PM
Quote from: junglecat022 on January 20, 2025, 06:54:07 PMAgree. I'm not saying we need to be taking these shots regularly, because majority of the time our layup/dunk/3pt focused offense gets the job done. BUT when teams are packing the paint or 3s aren't falling, it would be nice to have guys who are comfortable in the mid-range (ala Daryl Morsell or even Oso for that matter).


How many midrange shots did Oso take? Maybe...five total during his career?

And Daryl Morsell must have been a lot better than I remember, because not once in the last three years have I said "boy, I wish we had Daryl Morsell back."
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junglecat022

#60
January 20, 2025, 06:59:19 PM
Quote from: The Sultan on January 20, 2025, 06:57:26 PMHow many midrange shots did Oso take? Maybe...five total during his career?

And Daryl Morsell must have been a lot better than I remember, because not once in the last three years have I said "boy, I wish we had Daryl Morsell back."

I consider Oso's free line floater to be a mid-range shot. Right now if Ben Gold catches the ball there its an immediate pass back out to the perimeter.

The Sultan

#61
January 20, 2025, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: junglecat022 on January 20, 2025, 06:59:19 PMI consider Oso's free line floater to be a mid-range shot. Right now if Ben Gold catches the ball there its an immediate pass back out to the perimeter.

Shots in the lane are not mid-range...though behind the FT line would be. But I get your point.
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drbob

#62
January 21, 2025, 12:04:13 AM
One final thought. It was mentioned by someone that our current team plays with more energy and fight than any in the past. I would probably concur, team has HEART. Just wish they weren't always the smaller undersized team that has to scrape for every rebound and defensive stop.  Having a rim protector would be nice!

MU82

#63
January 21, 2025, 01:29:00 AM
Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 20, 2025, 05:58:39 PMNobody shoots mid-range jump shots.  Teams actively encourage opponents to do so

Yep. Every time an opposing player takes an 18-footer, it makes me very happy as a Marquette fan.

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The Sultan

#64
January 21, 2025, 05:06:15 AM
Quote from: drbob on January 21, 2025, 12:04:13 AMOne final thought. It was mentioned by someone that our current team plays with more energy and fight than any in the past. I would probably concur, team has HEART. Just wish they weren't always the smaller undersized team that has to scrape for every rebound and defensive stop.  Having a rim protector would be nice!

I would DEFINITELY agree that a rim protector would be nice.
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LloydsLegs

#65
January 21, 2025, 10:23:12 AM
I like MU's progression under Shaka...

Year 1 Make tourney ... Year 2 Win one game ... Year 3. Win two games...and so on...

GoldenEagles03

#66
January 21, 2025, 10:32:17 AM
Quote from: LloydsLegs on January 21, 2025, 10:23:12 AMI like MU's progression under Shaka...

Year 1 Make tourney ... Year 2 Win one game ... Year 3. Win two games...and so on...

Losing in the Title game in 2027 will hurt, but that 2028 National Championship is going to be awesome.
VIOLENCE!
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