Marquette Frontcourt

[Jockey]

Dr. Bob, next season's roster, as currently constructed, will feature 7'1 Clark, 6'11 Gold, 6'9 Hamilton, 6'9 Parham, 6'9 Amadou.  None are the traditional aircraft carrier you are looking for.
 

I don't think Clark & Amadou (if he stays) see the floor much except in cupcake games. Hopefully Hamilton improves enough to give 10-12 minutes.

Gold and Parham are the two mainstays among the bigs.

[drbob]

Tower  next years roster of bigs you mentioned only have 1 player who can shoot. That would be Gold !  Hopefully Parham can develop.  Those are the only 2 who play decent defense, well at least Gold does but he is usually outmuscled on the boards. Parham is still learning. I really liked Iowa State roster.  Guards who can shoot but some bigs who could shoot but also muscle the boards.  They killed us inside

[tower912]

Tower  next years roster of bigs you mentioned only have 1 player who can shoot. That would be Gold !  Hopefully Parham can develop.  Those are the only 2 who play decent defense, well at least Gold does but he is usually outmuscled on the boards. Parham is still learning. I really liked Iowa State roster.  Guards who can shoot but some bigs who could shoot but also muscle the boards.  They killed us inside

Relationships, growth, victory.   Trust the development.

[wiscwarrior]

Well, he did start the post off with "I'm probably old school, but...". Spot on Tower. Dr Bob and I both saw that style of basketball and it was a very different game. Then was then and now is now. 

Yep. The old "four corners" ended with the shot clock.   

[tower912]

Yep. The old "four corners" ended with the shot clock.   

If they had just left the 3pt. line at 17'9.

[wadesworld]

Tower  next years roster of bigs you mentioned only have 1 player who can shoot. That would be Gold !  Hopefully Parham can develop.  Those are the only 2 who play decent defense, well at least Gold does but he is usually outmuscled on the boards. Parham is still learning. I really liked Iowa State roster.  Guards who can shoot but some bigs who could shoot but also muscle the boards.  They killed us inside

So you want a 7 footer who you can throw the ball into the post and can back his man down and score, can protect the rim and guard on the perimeter, who can muscle the boards, and who can shoot from 3?

Sounds like the number 1 overall pick in the NBA Draft to me. Would be nice if Shaka could simply land that guy.

[The Sultan]

I think Marquette's best shooter next year is likely Owens. Hopefully he can cut down on the turnovers and play better defense.

[Uncle Rico]

People forget Al McGuire didn't let his team shoot 3's

[The Sultan]

People forget Al McGuire didn't let his team shoot 3's

And didn't let his players take (legal) NIL payments or enter the transfer portal.

As God intended.

[tower912]

Al believed in nepotism and hitting players.  But he got results.

[Scoop Snoop]

So you want a 7 footer who you can throw the ball into the post and can back his man down and score, can protect the rim and guard on the perimeter, who can muscle the boards, and who can shoot from 3?

Yeah. Why? You got a problem with that? 

I sympathize a bit with Dr. Bob. Some of the old stuff was good, but no shot clock, freshmen not being allowed to play, and those nice-looking peach baskets are all history now.

[tower912]

So you want a 7 footer who you can throw the ball into the post and can back his man down and score, can protect the rim and guard on the perimeter, who can muscle the boards, and who can shoot from 3?

Sounds like the number 1 overall pick in the NBA Draft to me. Would be nice if Shaka could simply land that guy.

I don't want one. I want one each season with one redshirting at all times for the next season

[Pepe Sylvia]

I actually agree. The way they see it is dunks and layups are the highest percentage shots, but 3s are worth more, so those are the only 2 types of shots they are looking for...but in year 1 Darryl and Justin were elite in the midrange. Joplin also has shown a great ability in the midrange. Not sure who else on this roster has that ability but I'd love to see it utilized by Joplin, especially against a zone as the free throw outlet.

And the team got WAY better on offense after they left and we stopped taking mid range Js. Huh.

[Viper]

We have a 7 footer on our roster who will play next year.

any good? How 'bout this year? Oh, that's right, Ben Gold is Very Good. 👍

[Viper]

I am probably old school but I don't understand Marquette's reluctance to have an inside and mid-range game. We have nothing to fall back on when the 3's are not falling and we are getting beat up on the boards. In the recruiting article on Stevens it mentions another 7ft Connecticut signee. All I see for Marquette are 6'5 to 6'8 recruits.  Don't think it will get us back to the promise land. PS  I love Shaka and have been a diehard Warrior since 1968 so not just trying to throw shade on the program

DrBob, good post...and don't feel like you have to appease Scoop with a soft close. You'll get hammered from the typical idiots regardless of your take. You know, that one-line basement dribble from the cynics, self absorbed comics and always right misguided. Some even threatened to leave Scoop permanently, only to reemerge. But I digress. Good post on your part.

[tower912]

any good? How 'bout this year? Oh, that's right, Ben Gold is Very Good. 👍

Tsktsktsk.  You should show more gratitude to the player who dominated the Badger bigs, allowing you a respite from your BIL.

[The Sultan]

DrBob, good post...and don't feel like you have to appease Scoop with a soft close. You'll get hammered from the typical idiots regardless of your take. You know, that one-line basement dribble from the cynics, self absorbed comics and always right misguided. Some even threatened to leave Scoop permanently, only to reemerge. But I digress. Good post on your part.

Not sure what this post is actually about, but I will play.

Outside of Shaka's first year, we have had an offense that has consistently ranked among the best in the country. It is predicated in shots at the rim, and on three point shooting - the two most efficient shots in basketball. UConn, the two time defending champion, has a very similar offensive philosophy.  (By the way, in Shaka's first year we had the aforementioned Morsell and Lewis...and the offense wasn't nearly as good.)

Yes, it would be nice to have more consistent outside shooting. And yes it would be nice to have a more efficient scorer as a big. I think Shaka would agree with both! But teams aren't developing mid-range games. Yes it can be more part of the offense than it is here, but it isn't significant at most places.

Viper, I know you have a immediate reaction against anythig that could remotely be considered "modern." I just don't know what you expect. We are in the midst of one of the best Marquette basketball runs of the past 45 years. And you want to have this team look like it did when you were playing back in the 70s. It's not going to happen.

[MU82]

And the team got WAY better on offense after they left and we stopped taking mid range Js. Huh.

Damn, you beat me to it.

Waxing poetic about the good ol' midrange-shooting days of 2021-22 without mentioning that the following 2 non-midrange-shooting seasons were FAR superior ... that's an interesting take.

[Uncle Rico]

Not sure what this post is actually about, but I will play.

Outside of Shaka's first year, we have had an offense that has consistently ranked among the best in the country. It is predicated in shots at the rim, and on three point shooting - the two most efficient shots in basketball. UConn, the two time defending champion, has a very similar offensive philosophy.  (By the way, in Shaka's first year we had the aforementioned Morsell and Lewis...and the offense wasn't nearly as good.)

Yes, it would be nice to have more consistent outside shooting. And yes it would be nice to have a more efficient scorer as a big. I think Shaka would agree with both! But teams aren't developing mid-range games. Yes it can be more part of the offense than it is here, but it isn't significant at most places.

Viper, I know you have a immediate reaction against anythig that could remotely be considered "modern." I just don't know what you expect. We are in the midst of one of the best Marquette basketball runs of the past 45 years. And you want to have this team look like it did when you were playing back in the 70s. It's not going to happen.

We lost on Saturday.  It's clear the offense isn't working

[jesmu84]

Not sure what this post is actually about, but I will play.

Outside of Shaka's first year, we have had an offense that has consistently ranked among the best in the country. It is predicated in shots at the rim, and on three point shooting - the two most efficient shots in basketball. UConn, the two time defending champion, has a very similar offensive philosophy.  (By the way, in Shaka's first year we had the aforementioned Morsell and Lewis...and the offense wasn't nearly as good.)

Yes, it would be nice to have more consistent outside shooting. And yes it would be nice to have a more efficient scorer as a big. I think Shaka would agree with both! But teams aren't developing mid-range games. Yes it can be more part of the offense than it is here, but it isn't significant at most places.

Viper, I know you have a immediate reaction against anythig that could remotely be considered "modern." I just don't know what you expect. We are in the midst of one of the best Marquette basketball runs of the past 45 years. And you want to have this team look like it did when you were playing back in the 70s. It's not going to happen.

Dumb, sultan.

You, shaka, and the entire NBA are wrong

https://x.com/kirkgoldsberry/status/1217109175894831105

[Norm]

For folks who might know, is Clark expected to actually contribute prior to his junior year? Isn't he a project player?

[drbob]

I am not waxing poetically about a return to 1970 basketball!!  Look at Connecticut's last two teams. Stronger and more efficient than us inside.  My point was I don't see us targeting bigs in our recruiting. We seem to get beat in the tournaments by being outrebounded and outmuscled.  Looking for an offense that is not so one dimensional. Guess we will wait and see what happens this year. Hope we win it ALL !!!

[The Sultan]

I am not waxing poetically about a return to 1970 basketball!!

I know you weren't and I didn't mean to imply that you were.

Looking for an offense that is not so one dimensional.

When the offense is humming, it isn't really one dimensional though. The problem is, like with a lot of college basketball teams, if the shots aren't falling, they're not falling.

[TheBlackJerryWest]

I've never seen a Marquette team play harder than these guys. Incredible effort. Been listening (Tom Collins) and attending or watching MU games since about 1962. As of today, we don't have a real point guard or a real center who, defends and scores down low. Almost impossible to compete at the highest level this way. Maybe re-design the offense and we can surprise ourselves?

[Uncle Rico]

I've never seen a Marquette team play harder than these guys. Incredible effort. Been listening (Tom Collins) and attending or watching MU games since about 1962. As of today, we don't have a real point guard or a real center who, defends and scores down low. Almost impossible to compete at the highest level this way. Maybe re-design the offense and we can surprise ourselves?

What leads you to believe this team will re-design the offense that has top-25 the last 3 years or should?