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muwarrior69

Quote from: Goose on December 08, 2024, 11:20:43 AM82

Simply, seeing how a culture, making others better and doing it the right way has carried over to how I interact with my family and friends.

More importantly, since Shaka has come aboard our business's staff has grown 3x and into Vietnam, Cambodia and India. How we interact as a team across multiple cultures is far different than it would have been without watching Shaka.

We have seen unbelievable strides with our staff because we have created a real culture and it is awesome to see. Trust me, I'm no Shaka, but he has helped build a foundation.

I said four years ago that Shaka was the greatest hire in the history of MU and not just a basketball coach. He is bigger than a coach and I think that is fantastic for anyone associated with MU.

So, when Al was just a young coach out of Belmont Abbey it would be your opinion that Marquette struck lightning in a bottle when they hired him, but Shaka is the greatest hire in Marquette history? I will concede that as an opinion and not a statement of fact until Shaka wins one or more National Championships in my lifetime. I'll be 78 in a month from now.

Goose

MuWarrior69

I think the Shaka hire has changed the trajectory of the university, not just the basketball program. I do not need Shaka to win a NC to understand what he has done for the institution.

Time will tell if he is the greatest coach hire, but I am convinced he changed the school we all love, far more than how we view our basketball team.

The Sultan

Quote from: Goose on December 08, 2024, 08:07:51 PMMuWarrior69

I think the Shaka hire has changed the trajectory of the university, not just the basketball program. I do not need Shaka to win a NC to understand what he has done for the institution.

Time will tell if he is the greatest coach hire, but I am convinced he changed the school we all love, far more than how we view our basketball team.


Think that's a bit of an exaggeration.
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rgoode57

I do not think Goose is exaggerating at all. Yes, Shaka has taken the basketball program to an elite level. But, more importantly, he has shown a commitment to MU and a commitment to developing the players as individuals and not just as basketball players. Shaka's influence at MU extends way beyond the team.

The Sultan

I guess I don't know what he means by "changed the school." It's by and large doing well, despite some struggles here and there, which has been the case for awhile now.
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The Lens

I get what Goose is trying to say.

Shaka's teams play with a relentess style that sort of portrays the underdog we all love in MU.  But they are also elite, so it shows how we can be among the best.  He is humble, introspective and appreciative.  All things we all (I think) hope to be.  Shaka is easy to root for as a $3 million dollar coach bc you know he could step in and be President or Provost if needed.  He's an incredibly smart, well read person who seems perfect to be the face of the University.   

And best of all he's brings us together.  It's a tough ticket.  Interest seems through the roof.     
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

forgetful

Quote from: The Lens on December 09, 2024, 08:52:01 AMI get what Goose is trying to say.

Shaka's teams play with a relentess style that sort of portrays the underdog we all love in MU.  But they are also elite, so it shows how we can be among the best.  He is humble, introspective and appreciative.  All things we all (I think) hope to be.  Shaka is easy to root for as a $3 million dollar coach bc you know he could step in and be President or Provost if needed.  He's an incredibly smart, well read person who seems perfect to be the face of the University.   

And best of all he's brings us together.  It's a tough ticket.  Interest seems through the roof.     

Goose was a little loose with the hyperbole and exaggeration, and this goes above and beyond.

Shaka is an amazing coach and has revitalized the basketball program, which has helped keep MU in the national spotlight in a time of declining enrollment. That is important.

But he would be in way over his head as President or Provost, that's just ridiculous and highlights that most do not understand the role of the President or Provost.

Between the two, he would do much better as President though than Provost, because the Provost does the bulk of the important academic oriented work.

Shooter McGavin

I think if he stays it positions the university well with the changing landscape of college sports.  This makes him being here and the success he brings to our university very important for the near and long term future.

Very impactful hire and ambassador for Marquette nationally. 

#UnleashSean

Scoop have ya had your pills this morning? Shaka as president is a bit ouuuuut there.

The Lens

#59
Quote from: forgetful on December 09, 2024, 09:27:34 AMGoose was a little loose with the hyperbole and exaggeration, and this goes above and beyond.

Shaka is an amazing coach and has revitalized the basketball program, which has helped keep MU in the national spotlight in a time of declining enrollment. That is important.

But he would be in way over his head as President or Provost, that's just ridiculous and highlights that most do not understand the role of the President or Provost.

Between the two, he would do much better as President though than Provost, because the Provost does the bulk of the important academic oriented work.

I'm not putting a cap on what Shaka could do professionally.  I has always felt there are two types of coaches, CEO's (Nick Saban) and Sales Managers (Les Miles).  Both can win it all but guys like Nick (and Shaka) would be incredibly successful in whatever profession they chose.
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

Goose

forgetful

I never said Shaka could be President or Provost. The most important person within a company or an organization is not always the one with the highest title. IMO, the impact created from Shaka is far outweighs the President or Provost at MU at the moment.

You can disagree with that, and I am fine with that. Do want to add, I have been a basketball first guy at MU for 50+ years and now hope that the basketball program makes MU a stronger and better institution. IMO, Shaka has made the job easier for every person in power at MU.

Mr. Nielsen

#61
Quote from: MUfan12 on December 08, 2024, 08:20:37 AMPhenomenal crowd yesterday. Probably 20-25% UW fans, most in the upper deck.



That number seems high. That would mean 4,500 Badger fans were in the building. I didn't see that to be the case in what I saw.
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Mr. Nielsen on December 09, 2024, 10:27:35 AMThat number seems high. That would mean 4,500 Badger fans were in the building. I didn't see that to be the case in what I saw.

Cool video from Fox that shows the pregame and a bit of game action with different angles from in the arena.

https://www.youtube.com/live/iIt2GX-u8mc?si=ezN3iRvpxiNNg39t
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BLWarrior91

Quote from: muwarrior69 on December 08, 2024, 04:51:38 PMSo, when Al was just a young coach out of Belmont Abbey it would be your opinion that Marquette struck lightning in a bottle when they hired him, but Shaka is the greatest hire in Marquette history? I will concede that as an opinion and not a statement of fact until Shaka wins one or more National Championships in my lifetime. I'll be 78 in a month from now.

Shaka had the best resume of any coach Marquette has ever hired.  Starting with Al, we've always hired coaches from small programs or guys who were assistant coaches.  Shaka got to a final four and then was a coach at a P5 program.  His journey to get here makes it better than if he had come straight from VCU.  He likely still would've had the P5 itch at some point.

Of course Al wound up being our greatest coach and that won't change until Shaka wins a Naty.  Al also built a program that won more games in the 70s than anyone other than UCLA.  That type of success would be hard to top but being a top ten program under Shaka feels great!

Goose

Al very likely will remain the greatest coach in MU history and one of the most influential hires in school history. What Al provided the university as a whole was catching lightning in a bottle. I do not believe MU dreamed Al would have the overall impact he ended up providing.

In the Shaka hire, I think he the most qualified coach in school history by a wide margin. In addition, I do believe that MU knew Shaka would provide a great deal to the university as whole when they hired him.

MU82

It made for a tumultuous 7-year stretch under Wojo, but in many ways the best thing that could have happened for Marquette basketball long-term was Mrs. Shaka saying no to Milwaukee in 2014.

I agree with others that had Shaka taken the job directly from VCU, the temptation to move on from MU after 4-5-6 years would have been enormous. But the fact that he went to Texas and experienced first-hand that being at a major, high-pressure university wasn't all he thought it would be ... it made Marquette the perfect fit for how he wants to run a program.

I'm an optimistic guy, yes, but I really do think Shaka will be at Marquette for a long time.
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forgetful

Quote from: Goose on December 09, 2024, 10:25:13 AMforgetful

I never said Shaka could be President or Provost. The most important person within a company or an organization is not always the one with the highest title. IMO, the impact created from Shaka is far outweighs the President or Provost at MU at the moment.

You can disagree with that, and I am fine with that. Do want to add, I have been a basketball first guy at MU for 50+ years and now hope that the basketball program makes MU a stronger and better institution. IMO, Shaka has made the job easier for every person in power at MU.

Goose, my apologies for lumping your quote and that of The Lens together. I didn't mean to imply that you also agreed he could be President or Provost.

I would agree that the basketball program and Shaka have made MU a stronger institution, and actually agree that what Shaka has done outweighs what the President and Provost have done recently, but I'm not sure that is a good thing (that isn't trying to take away from Shaka, more just emphasize that a lot needs to be done on the academic side).

barfolomew

#67
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on December 09, 2024, 10:35:41 AMhttps://youtu.be/WxR3P3LdC7g?si=afCHyXUx0gJGnaHL


That's some interesting analysis there at the 1:39 mark by Jim Jackson.
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cheebs09

Quote from: barfolomew on December 09, 2024, 12:20:27 PMThat's some interesting analysis there at the 1:39 mark by Jim Jackson.


https://youtu.be/WxR3P3LdC7g?si=afCHyXUx0gJGnaHL

I think this is the link you were referring to. Just filth coming out of the Big Whatever.

barfolomew

Quote from: cheebs09 on December 09, 2024, 12:38:19 PMhttps://youtu.be/WxR3P3LdC7g?si=afCHyXUx0gJGnaHL

I think this is the link you were referring to. Just filth coming out of the Big Whatever.

It is -- thank you.
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MU82 on December 09, 2024, 11:45:41 AMIt made for a tumultuous 7-year stretch under Wojo, but in many ways the best thing that could have happened for Marquette basketball long-term was Mrs. Shaka saying no to Milwaukee in 2014.

I agree with others that had Shaka taken the job directly from VCU, the temptation to move on from MU after 4-5-6 years would have been enormous. But the fact that he went to Texas and experienced first-hand that being at a major, high-pressure university wasn't all he thought it would be ... it made Marquette the perfect fit for how he wants to run a program.

I'm an optimistic guy, yes, but I really do think Shaka will be at Marquette for a long time.

We should really put this rumor to bed. It hasn't gotten any truer in the last 10 years
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


MU82

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on December 09, 2024, 03:19:18 PMWe should really put this rumor to bed. It hasn't gotten any truer in the last 10 years

Exactly. Thanks for the confirmation, TAMU.

Now, is it time for Mrs. Hauser to write another letter?
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