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Marquette
Scrimmage
Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
TV: NA
Schedule for 2024-25
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Stretchdeltsig

Its mind boggling how we lost to the less talented and poorly coached rodents. It stings to even ponder why.

tower912

It is good that MU will be playing a real team from the Baltimore/DC metroplex.




Sorry, DFW, couldn't resist.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

DFW HOYA

Quote from: tower912 on May 16, 2024, 07:01:20 AM
It is good that MU will be playing a real team from the Baltimore/DC metroplex.

Baltimore has as much in common with DC as Madison has with Milwaukee.

MDMU04

Quote from: MU82 on May 15, 2024, 02:10:46 PM
I pondered it and have concluded that there is not enough data to make a real conclusion.

I lean toward coincidence, though.

I agree, I think the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions. Shaka's career win percentage is something like .670 over more than 500 games. I believe over the longer term, his win percentage against B10 opponents will normalize somewhat better than .500.

If one of the things we're most concerned about our program is our record against non-conference opponents while winning at a + .700 clip, I'll take it.

Bottom line is we all need to stop wasting time and get locked in to figure out why Shaka's record is so bad in secret scrimmages.
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

MUbiz

Those secret scrimmages sure have become a pesky issue, haven't they?

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 16, 2024, 10:38:02 AM
I agree, I think the sample size is too small to draw any conclusions. Shaka's career win percentage is something like .670 over more than 500 games. I believe over the longer term, his win percentage against B10 opponents will normalize somewhat better than .500.

If one of the things we're most concerned about our program is our record against non-conference opponents while winning at a + .700 clip, I'll take it.

Bottom line is we all need to stop wasting time and get locked in to figure out why Shaka's record is so bad in secret scrimmages.

Hey! We absolutely pasted Loyola a couple years ago and also beat Mizzou by a double digits per rumors.

Focus needs to be not making last year a trend. Can't start bombing scrimmages. Personally I think Shaka saw the Juwan collapse coming and cooled on Michigan prep not taking them serious.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MUbiz

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on May 16, 2024, 10:46:49 AM
Hey! We absolutely pasted Loyola a couple years ago and also beat Mizzou by a double digits per rumors.

Focus needs to be not making last year a trend. Can't start bombing scrimmages. Personally I think Shaka saw the Juwan collapse coming and cooled on Michigan prep not taking them serious.

Juwan has won 2 in a row against Madison. I think its safe to say Juwan owns Gard and Smart.

Galway Eagle

I don't think a sample of 20 games across three schools is that small as you probably average 2 non con games against the same power conference a year that equates to a ten year sample of non con matches. I agree there's flaws as I stated before I'm unsure how many of the other conference matchups he was actually favored in.

In the grand scheme of things it's not a huge deal when we only play WI once a year but if that trend persists of losing over 70% of B1G matches I'd personally vote for maybe choosing the other power conferences or major programs for home and homes
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

The Sultan

Yes, let's try to compete at the highest levels of the sport but duck the Big Ten.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 16, 2024, 12:21:02 PM
Yes, let's try to compete at the highest levels of the sport but duck the Big Ten.

Plus, the Big Ten is going to add 4-6 more schools shortly
Guster is for Lovers

MDMU04

Send this to the new AD, he needs to see this.  We must avoid scheduling:

Big Ten - Shaka has a losing record against them except for Illinois, he beat them twice
SEC - Shaka has a winning record against them but if he loses twice it'll become a losing record and then we'll never be able to beat them
Big XII - Shaka couldn't compete in that conference when it wasn't even as good as it is now
ACC - The NC State loss looms too large, Notre Dame won't even play us anymore
PAC 12 - Doesn't exist
UConn - The gap is simply too large, growing
St Thomas - Still haven't recovered
UWM - Play it safe and continue to dodge the loss
Secret Scrimmages - A single loss will cost 2-3 seed lines minimum
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 16, 2024, 01:26:26 PM
Send this to the new AD, he needs to see this.  We must avoid scheduling:

Big Ten - Shaka has a losing record against them except for Illinois, he beat them twice
SEC - Shaka has a winning record against them but if he loses twice it'll become a losing record and then we'll never be able to beat them
Big XII - Shaka couldn't compete in that conference when it wasn't even as good as it is now
ACC - The NC State loss looms too large, Notre Dame won't even play us anymore
PAC 12 - Doesn't exist
UConn - The gap is simply too large, growing
St Thomas - Still haven't recovered
UWM - Play it safe and continue to dodge the loss
Secret Scrimmages - A single loss will cost 2-3 seed lines minimum

Perfect.  No notes.
Guster is for Lovers

MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 16, 2024, 01:26:26 PM
Send this to the new AD, he needs to see this.  We must avoid scheduling:

Big Ten - Shaka has a losing record against them except for Illinois, he beat them twice
SEC - Shaka has a winning record against them but if he loses twice it'll become a losing record and then we'll never be able to beat them
Big XII - Shaka couldn't compete in that conference when it wasn't even as good as it is now
ACC - The NC State loss looms too large, Notre Dame won't even play us anymore
PAC 12 - Doesn't exist
UConn - The gap is simply too large, growing
St Thomas - Still haven't recovered
UWM - Play it safe and continue to dodge the loss
Secret Scrimmages - A single loss will cost 2-3 seed lines minimum

UWM in a secret scrimmage?

The Sultan

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 16, 2024, 01:26:26 PM
Send this to the new AD, he needs to see this.  We must avoid scheduling:

Big Ten - Shaka has a losing record against them except for Illinois, he beat them twice
SEC - Shaka has a winning record against them but if he loses twice it'll become a losing record and then we'll never be able to beat them
Big XII - Shaka couldn't compete in that conference when it wasn't even as good as it is now
ACC - The NC State loss looms too large, Notre Dame won't even play us anymore
PAC 12 - Doesn't exist
UConn - The gap is simply too large, growing
St Thomas - Still haven't recovered
UWM - Play it safe and continue to dodge the loss
Secret Scrimmages - A single loss will cost 2-3 seed lines minimum

Then we can complain about the schedule.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Galway Eagle

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 16, 2024, 01:26:26 PM
Send this to the new AD, he needs to see this.  We must avoid scheduling:

Big Ten - Shaka has a losing record against them except for Illinois, he beat them twice
SEC - Shaka has a winning record against them but if he loses twice it'll become a losing record and then we'll never be able to beat them
Big XII - Shaka couldn't compete in that conference when it wasn't even as good as it is now
ACC - The NC State loss looms too large, Notre Dame won't even play us anymore
PAC 12 - Doesn't exist
UConn - The gap is simply too large, growing
St Thomas - Still haven't recovered
UWM - Play it safe and continue to dodge the loss
Secret Scrimmages - A single loss will cost 2-3 seed lines minimum

Reductio ad absurdum isnt a good look. I've not said anything about anything other than the B1G.

Do you know how many top boxers through history have gotten to the top by playing to their strengths? Canelo isn't avoiding fighting Benavidez because of poor TV potential compared to Mungia. It's because you can be great while being aware of mismatches or shortcomings on your own end.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

MDMU04

I don't know anything about boxing.  But you can tell me which fighters would be a mismatch for us and I'll put them on the list.
"They call me eccentric. They used to call me nuts. I haven't changed." - Al McGuire

The Sultan

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 16, 2024, 01:45:42 PM
Reductio ad absurdum isnt a good look. I've not said anything about anything other than the B1G.

Do you know how many top boxers through history have gotten to the top by playing to their strengths? Canelo isn't avoiding fighting Benavidez because of poor TV potential compared to Mungia. It's because you can be great while being aware of mismatches or shortcomings on your own end.

Calling his obvious exaggerations not "a good look," but then comparing it to boxing is...something.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Maybe Shaka can ask Underwood if he's willing to do a best-of-7 series every November. What with Illinois being the only Big18 team Shaka can beat.
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PointWarrior

Quote from: MDMU04 on May 16, 2024, 01:26:26 PM
Send this to the new AD, he needs to see this.  We must avoid scheduling:

Big Ten - Shaka has a losing record against them except for Illinois, he beat them twice
SEC - Shaka has a winning record against them but if he loses twice it'll become a losing record and then we'll never be able to beat them
Big XII - Shaka couldn't compete in that conference when it wasn't even as good as it is now
ACC - The NC State loss looms too large, Notre Dame won't even play us anymore
PAC 12 - Doesn't exist
UConn - The gap is simply too large, growing
St Thomas - Still haven't recovered
UWM - Play it safe and continue to dodge the loss
Secret Scrimmages - A single loss will cost 2-3 seed lines minimum

With the Scoop collective intelligence, why do we even need an AD?


WhiteTrash

And all of this is going to be worse when St Thomas moves to the Big10 in a few years.

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