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The Sultan

It's also more than hurt feelings. It pulls the rug out recruiting-wise. It's just a dumb idea.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 23, 2020, 11:51:13 AM
It's also more than hurt feelings. It pulls the rug out recruiting-wise. It's just a dumb idea.

Exactly. The damage may be minor, but there's ZERO chance Donovan would be coming to Marquette, so why bother to risk any damage at all?
Despite what some here wish to believe, there's no upside to making the call.

MU82

Quote from: Lennys Tap on September 23, 2020, 10:32:11 AM
If Brad Stevens gets let go by the Celtics, why not give him a courtesy call?

Look, this whole "Wojo's feelings might be hurt" is a bunch of crap. He (and everyone else on the planet) knows that Billy Donovan or Brad Stevens is a whole lot better at coaching basketball than he is. He knows MU would can him in a nanosecond for either one. Just like MU knows that if the Lakers come calling Wojo would be on the first plane to LA.

There are a bunch of reasons that make any of the aforementioned extremely unlikely. No harm in taking 5 minutes to inquire, though.

Wait ... Wojo is gonna coach the Lakers? That means Frank Vogel will be available to MU.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on September 23, 2020, 09:57:13 AM
Stevens Celtics salary is 3.6m, (https://www.spotrac.com/nba/boston-celtics/brad-stevens-13387/)

I admit that I just fired out what I did not knowing how much Stevens made. I assumed it was more, and when one assumes ...

I guess I figured this entire thread is so ridiculous, pages and pages of folks arguing about a hypothetical that is so hypothetical it is a misuse of the word "hypothetical," that I'm simply giving it the seriousness that it deserves.

But sure ... MU should be calling Donovan's people, Stevens' people, Popovich's people, etc, etc, etc. It would be fun!

And again, why not Phil Jackson? We don't know for 100% certainty that he would turn it down. Maybe only 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% ... but that means there would still be a chance to land the most accomplished basketball coach ever!

And he'd probably be able to get Michael to MU for that final year of eligibility MJ has!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Frenns Liquor Depot

Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on September 09, 2020, 12:27:03 PM
Which is why the hyperbole being thrown about makes no sense.  Saying a back channel call ruins MU recruiting or discredits Wojo is as silly as thinking that Billy returns the overture.

Since we are all repeating the same things from earlier, here is my 'contribution'

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on September 23, 2020, 11:51:13 AM
It's also more than hurt feelings. It pulls the rug out recruiting-wise. It's just a dumb idea.

That's what I meant by collateral damage.

Galway Eagle

Looks pretty obvious to me that nobody's giving an inch here and Wades was unnecessarily reviving a week old thread to make some kind of weird "told you so" point when we had all said it wasn't happening anyways.

Nice job wades.
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

4everwarriors

Y knot bang da snot outta sumwon bedder lookin' dan Aniston, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

jesmu84

Quote from: Galway Eagle on September 23, 2020, 11:43:34 AM
Top of page 2 of this thread I posted a link at your request.

Ya. That's not a source.

"...multiple people with knowledge of the situation have indicated Marquette's Steve Wojciechowski is a target."

A source about Wojo being a target for the VT admin is far different than a source that says Wojo talked to VT admin about moving.

Hards Alumni

To the guys saying we should have called:  Risk vs reward

Donovan has a less than 1% chance of saying yes, but if he even TAKES the call there is someone who knows that Marquette is looking elsewhere.  Sniffing around at least.  Gives Wojo firepower for contract negotiations or a reason to walk.

Soooo the RISK heavily outweighs the REWARD.

wadesworld

Why don't you ask?  Because you have the slightest iota of common sense, maybe?

Literally nothing good would have come from it.  So why ask?  Even if nothing bad came of it, there's literally no chance anything good could come from it.

Seriously, the dude was not running from a job.  He was a wanted man at the level he was already at, which is a much higher level of his profession than the one we are at.  But wait, that just means my opinion of MU is so damn low.  How can I not consider MU a better job than an NBA job?

Seriously.  Common sense.  That is why you don't ask.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on September 23, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
Looks pretty obvious to me that nobody's giving an inch here and Wades was unnecessarily reviving a week old thread to make some kind of weird "told you so" point when we had all said it wasn't happening anyways.

Nice job wades.

Thank you.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on September 23, 2020, 05:30:35 PM
To the guys saying we should have called:  Risk vs reward

Donovan has a less than 1% chance of saying yes, but if he even TAKES the call there is someone who knows that Marquette is looking elsewhere.  Sniffing around at least.  Gives Wojo firepower for contract negotiations or a reason to walk.

Soooo the RISK heavily outweighs the REWARD.

I'd let woj walk for a shot at donovan.   Dont let the door hit ya in the ass, anal?

4everwarriors

#186
 Chit, eye'd drive 'im two da dog bus station myself, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

wadesworld

Quote from: 4everwarriors on September 23, 2020, 09:58:50 PM
Chit, eye'd drive 'im two da dog bus station myself, hey?

Took you that long to come up with something more creative than the original post? And this is the best you could do?

4everwarriors

"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Hards Alumni

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on September 23, 2020, 08:56:18 PM
I'd let woj walk for a shot at donovan.   Dont let the door hit ya in the ass, anal?

You'd let him walk for a chance at a beef and cheddar though.  Even without the horsey sauce.

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on September 24, 2020, 06:39:45 AM
You'd let him walk for a chance at a beef and cheddar though.  Even without the horsey sauce.

Nah, would have to be a 2 for $6 deal.

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