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muwarrior69


MU Fan in Connecticut

None of them had symptoms.  85% of the team and personnel is fully vaccinated also
They still played the game last night.

The Sultan

People can still catch Covid with vaccination. The chances are even higher with J&J.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

4everwarriors

So what? Serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table. Focus on something else. This just doesn't matter. It over. Believe the science, its real, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"


Galway Eagle

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2021, 07:37:48 AM
So what? Serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table. Focus on something else. This just doesn't matter. It over. Believe the science, its real, hey?

Anecdotally this is not true
Retire Terry Rand's jersey!

naginiF

Quote from: Galway Eagle on May 12, 2021, 08:50:34 AM
Anecdotally this is not true
Factually it isn't true either. I interpret the statement as "serious illness, hospitalization, and death are occurring at levels that are acceptable for many people", which is true. It was also true for some people at the hight of the pandemic in 2020 but at least now it's at levels (and improving) where that conversation is a rational one to have.

MU82

Quote from: 4everwarriors on May 12, 2021, 07:37:48 AM
So what? Serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table. Focus on something else. This just doesn't matter. It over. Believe the science, its real, hey?

It's cute that you are all about believing the science now that the science denier you worshiped for 4 years is promoting conspiracy theories from afar.

Also, you don't think it's news worth reporting if athletes and coaches get Covid?

Having said/asked that, Doc, I do agree with what I think is your main sentiment here: Unless there is a wave that again puts thousands of Americans at risk of serious harm, we have to live our lives as best we can while following the science regarding the virus and its variants.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Hards Alumni

Quote from: naginiF on May 12, 2021, 09:38:09 AM
Factually it isn't true either. I interpret the statement as "serious illness, hospitalization, and death are occurring at levels that are acceptable for many people", which is true. It was also true for some people at the hight of the pandemic in 2020 but at least now it's at levels (and improving) where that conversation is a rational one to have.

I think Doc was saying to serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table for people who have been vaccinated.  At least that is how I read it.

naginiF

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 12, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
I think Doc was saying to serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table for people who have been vaccinated.  At least that is how I read it.
Ah, got it.

I'll just add....it's the Yankee's, who cares?

Coleman

Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 12, 2021, 04:17:03 AM
https://nypost.com/2021/05/11/yankees-have-two-more-breakthrough-covid-19-cases/

They all received the J&J shot. Wonder if the Vaccine can cause a false positive.

It is pretty well known that J&J is like 75% effective. That means it is 25% ineffective. People will get infected. This is expected.

The big upside here is that if you are vaccinated, it is very unlikely that you will be hospitalized and/or die.

4everwarriors

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 12, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
I think Doc was saying to serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table for people who have been vaccinated.  At least that is how I read it.



Correct. No excuses, get that poker in the arm asap
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Coleman on May 12, 2021, 10:24:20 AM
It is pretty well known that J&J is like 75% effective. That means it is 25% ineffective. People will get infected. This is expected.

The big upside here is that if you are vaccinated, it is very unlikely that you will be hospitalized and/or die.

100% correct.  But fear porn is more fun for some people.

pacearrow02

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on May 12, 2021, 09:46:13 AM
I think Doc was saying to serious illness, hospitalization, and death are off the table for people who have been vaccinated.  At least that is how I read it.

Yes very rare but strangely enough I know more people who have been hospitalized with severe Covid symptoms post vaccination (2) then I did prevaccination (0).

Coleman

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on May 12, 2021, 12:09:22 PM
Yes very rare but strangely enough I know more people who have been hospitalized with severe Covid symptoms post vaccination (2) then I did prevaccination (0).

After one shot or two? How long post vaccination?


MU82

Miles Bridges, who was the Hornets' best player in April (19 ppg, 7 rpg, 3 apg, .467 from 3), just had to miss 5 games due to COVID-19. Without him and other injured/ill players, the Hornets are struggling to get the best position possible within the play-in tournament. He could be back tomorrow.

I happen to think all of that is newsworthy, but maybe others think "covidnewsnomatta."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

pacearrow02

Quote from: Coleman on May 12, 2021, 12:44:58 PM
After one shot or two? How long post vaccination?

Both well after 2....more then a month after second


Coleman

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on May 12, 2021, 08:40:19 PM
Both well after 2....more then a month after second

Interesting, rare but not unheard of.  95% is not 100%. Variants have probably lowered that a tad too.

Just unlucky.

The Sultan

Quote from: Coleman on May 12, 2021, 08:46:43 PM
Interesting, rare but not unheard of.  95% is not 100%. Variants have probably lowered that a tad too.

Just unlucky.


I don't believe there is any evidence that variants have lowered the possibility of catching Covid post-vax.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Jockey

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on May 13, 2021, 07:54:53 AM

I don't believe there is any evidence that variants have lowered the possibility of catching Covid post-vax.

I think he said the effectiveness was lowered. - not the possibility of catching it.

Coleman

Quote from: Jockey on May 13, 2021, 08:59:48 AM
I think he said the effectiveness was lowered. - not the possibility of catching it.

Correct

🏀

Quote from: PaceArrow02 on May 12, 2021, 12:09:22 PM
Yes very rare but strangely enough I know more people who have been hospitalized with severe Covid symptoms post vaccination (2) then I did prevaccination (0).

You seem to be enveloped with statistical anomalies.

MU82

Bill Maher tests positive despite being fully vaccinated and has to cancel taping of the show that would have aired this past Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/14/entertainment/bill-maher-covid-trnd/index.html

"Thanks to all wishing me get well - hard to do since I feel perfectly fine, but I appreciate it!," Maher tweeted. "Most upset about ending my streak going back to 1993 of never missing a Politically Incorrect or Real Time episode. Oh well, even Cal Ripken had to sit one out at some point."

I'm reading more and more that when you've been vaccinated, you are far less likely to get hit hard by the virus. One would like to thin that would motivate those who want to get back to "normal."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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