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lawdog77

Quote from: nyg on April 15, 2019, 01:32:38 PM
Like Willie and Herman will soon say, the farm kids are gone and now its time for the inner city kids.  The athletic, pogo stick kids that are here now and need to be in 2020.  Times are changing. 

Starters:

Theo
Bailey
Sacar
McEwen
Markus

Reserves:

Morrow
Cain
Elliott
Akanno

Cain just went from going to the University of Detroit to the first forward off the bench.  Elliott, first guard, Morrow for Theo.

Team needs a grad transfer forward ASAP. You have to figure the foul issues (including Cain) will continue and be a nemesis again.  No clue on the Akanno kid, but at least MU has three competent guards at this point.  Another grad transfer guard or have Torrence move up a year. 

Then reload in 2020 with huge class and now with Joey gone, leaves front court with many, many minutes for the 2020 potential recruits to look at.  Just hope all these rumors don't hurt in the recruiting phase.  2020 is just so important moving forward.
Ed will need to step up at the 4...Exactly the reason why he transferred from Nebraska.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 15, 2019, 02:27:22 PM
Ed will need to step up at the 4...Exactly the reason why he transferred from Nebraska.

And who plays the 5 when he is at the 4?  No way can he and Theo be on the floor at the same time. 

f/k/a humanlung

Assuming we don't have anyone else - Morrow, Bailey, Cain - transferl, we just got a lot more athletic.

The Hauser's, no doubt, are very good basketball players but they were not great athletes.  Others have accurately pointed out that they were a liability when facing a more athletic opponent and there wasn't anything that was going to change that fact.

I am no fan of Wojo - I have been consistently screaming, "WE SHOULD HIRE HOWLAND" since the day he interviewed. Nothing I have seen in the last four years has changed my mind on that point.  This upcoming season, however, MU will have the most athletic team on the court that we have seen since the hillbilly left.

If Wojo is at all capable of actually coaching, this will be the team where he should be able to do it.  Athletes from one end of the bench to the other.

As for how damaging this is to MU basketball, people need to chill a little.  This is a divorce.  Nothing more, nothing less.  In all divorces, there is "her" story and "his" story.  The truth always lies in the middle of the two.  We are assuming one version of the story now but the other story will be used on the recruiting trail.  Would be better if it didn't happen (in the most obvious comment on Scoop today...) but this isn't a death-knell for the program or the coach, imo.

lawdog77

I am calling it right now. Slow start to the year, but Elite 8 or better. Markus goes out as the GOAT, averaging 25/5/5.

muwarrior69

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 15, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
And who plays the 5 when he is at the 4?  No way can he and Theo be on the floor at the same time.

Well maybe EKE can play the 5.

lawdog77

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on April 15, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
And who plays the 5 when he is at the 4?  No way can he and Theo be on the floor at the same time.
Grad Transfer..

MU82

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on April 15, 2019, 01:58:08 PM
This may actually accelerate the changes in personnel and playing style that many here have been begging for IF he can replace them with athletic slasher types. 

I loved the Hausers.  But, they were not athletic and were pretty one dimensional.  Good shooters, decent in isolation/post up.  Average on defense and pretty much non-existent in transition other than maybe a three attempt here and there. 

I can see this working out once the shock wears off.

As a hopeless optimist, I like where you are going with this.

My first post on this subject was pretty gloomy. This tone from you and few other Scoopers helps.

I still think it will be very difficult for the program to recover from this, but I'm open to being very wrong about that.
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GoldenEagle323

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 15, 2019, 02:33:13 PM
I am calling it right now. Slow start to the year, but Elite 8 or better. Markus goes out as the GOAT, averaging 25/5/5.
+1

fjm

Unfortunately.... I just read on Instagram that a current MU student is saying the Hauser are likely not the only ones. Bailey also being rumored as gone.

I hope not. But gees. Rumor mill party

GoldenEagle323

Quote from: fjm on April 15, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Unfortunately.... I just read on Instagram that a current MU student is saying the Hauser are likely not the only ones. Bailey also being rumored as gone.

I hope not. But gees. Rumor mill party
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Loose Cannon

Quote from: MU82 on April 15, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
As a hopeless optimist, I like where you are going with this.

My first post on this subject was pretty gloomy. This tone from you and few other Scoopers helps.

I still think it will be very difficult for the program to recover from this, but I'm open to being very wrong about that.

Will be very difficult to recover, but that's what sports is a big part of, getting back on your and throwing punches. 
" Love is Space and Time measured by the Heart. "  M Proust

muwarrior69

Quote from: fjm on April 15, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Unfortunately.... I just read on Instagram that a current MU student is saying the Hauser are likely not the only ones. Bailey also being rumored as gone.

I hope not. But gees. Rumor mill party

Why would Bailey run? If anyone took Bailey's spot it was Joey.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: MU82 on April 15, 2019, 02:35:35 PM
I still think it will be very difficult for the program to recover from this, but I'm open to being very wrong about that.

Trying to think about this, IF Symir will end up @ MU next year ('19-20) I'd say

Markus + Symir > Sam + Joey

Of course, one might argue it could have been Markus < Sam + Joey + Symir.  But both situations are all theoretical at this point.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 15, 2019, 02:48:02 PM
Why would Bailey run? If anyone took Bailey's spot it was Joey.

Once again, this assumes that playing time is they key issue in these decisions.  It might be; it might not.  But, if guys who are getting good minutes leave a team, I think it's fair to assume that playing time isn't what's driving them out.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

tower912

I think Torrence reclassifies.  That gives MU 5 guards between 6'3 and 6'5.   Three guard offense.   More movement, more dribble drive.   Defensive rebounding  concerns me.

It isn't great, but a decent season can still happen.
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Mr. Sand-Knit

Will totally miss Sam but Joey sucked and was always gonna be the underathletic slow guy who could not defend in the BE.  Was only a Freshman but would have slways been slow and underathletic.  Joey was overrated coming out of HS, prtorypical man amongst boys in HS but never a great college ppayer or pro, very unathletic
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MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 15, 2019, 02:48:02 PM
Why would Bailey run? If anyone took Bailey's spot it was Joey.
Good. They should have played JAMAL CAIN MORE.

If anyone should be upset it is Jamal Cain, Bailey. He was a freshman. Cain sat behind two freshmen. So if anything he is the one who should be upset and is the main one who has something to gain here along with his buddy Greg.

StillAWarrior

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Quote from: Mr. Sand-Knit on April 15, 2019, 03:09:18 PM
Will totally miss Sam but Joey sucked and was always gonna be the underathletic slow guy who could not defend in the BE.  Was only a Freshman but would have slways been slow and underathletic.  Joey was overrated coming out of HS, prtorypical man amongst boys in HS but never a great college ppayer or pro, very unathletic

If Joey was any good, he'd have won BEast Freshman of the week six times.  Only five?  What a stiff.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

zcg2013

Is it too early to say our defense should be vastly improved after losing two of our slower defenders...

NickelDimer

Quote from: fjm on April 15, 2019, 02:40:23 PM
Unfortunately.... I just read on Instagram that a current MU student is saying the Hauser are likely not the only ones. Bailey also being rumored as gone.

I hope not. But gees. Rumor mill party
If that happens Wojo absolutely needs to be fired immediately no questions asked.
No Finish Line

MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: Mike Deane's Seat Belt on April 15, 2019, 01:10:37 PM
At this rate would not be surprised if they are scouring the AMU for eligible players,  markus, sacar, who knows who else might jump ship.

This program is in trouble. 
Time to cut ties with wojo
#wojohasnomojo
Calm down ....no one else is or should "jump ship." Once Markus did not declare for the NBA draft this was inevitable.

It would have been better had he declared for the NBA draft...actually. But he didn't...

Markusquette

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on April 15, 2019, 03:13:43 PM
Good. They should have played JAMAL CAIN MORE.

If anyone should be upset it is Jamal Cain, Bailey. He was a freshman. Cain sat behind two freshmen. So if anything he is the one who should be upset and is the main one who has something to gain here along with his buddy Greg.

And he sat behind them them for good reason. Cain could barely hold on to the ball when he was in the game. Confidence completely shot. Maybe that's partially on the coach too.

dannyb334

Quote from: zcg2013 on April 15, 2019, 03:23:58 PM
Is it too early to say our defense should be vastly improved after losing two of our slower defenders...

*three of our slower defenders. Remember Heldt (as much as I love him) was slow too.

This team--with the right transfer--just got crazy athletic

skianth16

Quote from: StillAWarrior on April 15, 2019, 02:52:05 PM
Once again, this assumes that playing time is they key issue in these decisions.  It might be; it might not.  But, if guys who are getting good minutes leave a team, I think it's fair to assume that playing time isn't what's driving them out.


Playing time can't be the issue. It's got to be more about personality, coaching, strategy, etc. Which would also explain some of the other exit scenarios we've seen under Wojo. Maybe the sales pitch didn't align with the actual product.

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