Pittsburgh and Syracuse

[Aircraftcarrier]

I think these two programs are going to become irrelevant in the near future.Two former major powers in the old Big East.Can't say that it breaks my heart.Every time they play I hope they lose.

[Windyplayer]

Cuse has a massive fan base with the positive externality of East Cost bias to boot. They ain't going anywhere. Pitt on the other hand is in a little bit of trouble.

[lurch91]

Both programs chased football money even though neither has been relevant in football in over a decade.  They ended up damaging their basketball identity.  Syracuse may be too big (too many resources) to fail, but Pitt may take years to recover.

[drewm88]

Cuse has a massive fan base with the positive externality of East Cost bias to boot. They ain't going anywhere. Pitt on the other hand is in a little bit of trouble.

Let's see what happens when Boeheim leaves. Things already are looking down, and a massive fan base could shrink pretty significantly after 8-10 years or so of 12th place finishes with no postseason.

[manny31]

Syracuse= new Rutgers? Probably not but I am a cuse hater. Temple might be a better comparison if they do fall.

[muhoosier260]

I revel in Cuse's struggles, but let's not forget theyre only 1 year removed from a final four, even if they didn't deserve the bid in the first place.

[muwarrior69]

Hmm....Notre Dame football somewhat sucks, but their basketball team is pretty good.

[Windyplayer]

Also need to consider that Syracuse is a basketball town and the Orange are its main attraction (of course, the chicken and egg argument is present). I think the two are inextricably linked -- think more extreme version of Omaha and Creighton.

[MerrittsMustache]

Cuse will likely get another undeserved bid this season but they're not going away. If anything, I could see Cuse going the way of Georgetown with Mike Hopkins playing the role of Craig Esherick before they find a long-term coach who has an up and down career but who they then have a hard time replacing due to his strong connection to the HOF coach - Gerry McNamara, for example.

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

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