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brewcity77

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on March 26, 2017, 12:58:07 PM
The clock starts on a missed FT when the ball is touched.

But doesn't it have to hit the rim? I'm almost positive there's something about contact with the rim in there. Here's what I was referring to, though these are from rules a couple years ago:

Quote from: NCAA Rules, Rule 9, Section 1, Article 1.aThe free-thrower fails to release the try within 10 seconds and in such a way that the ball enters the basket or touches the ring or flange before the free throw ends.

So according to that, the ball has to enter the basket or touch the rim or back-rim before the free throw ends. Then below that is this:

Quote from: NCAA Rules, Rule 9, Section 2, Article 1When a violation is by the free-thrower only or the free-thrower's teammate only, no point shall be scored by that free throw. The ball shall become dead when  the violation occurs. The ball shall be awarded at a designated spot nearest to where the violation occurred, unless another free throw is to be awarded.

So if Hayes whips it off the backboard, it would be a free throw violation and Florida would get the ball at the nearest spot to the violation.

This prevents players from whipping the second free throw off the backboard as hard as possible to rebound their own attempt. Hayes had to hit the rim for it to count. If someone is better at interpreting the rules, please enlighten us, but I'm pretty sure he had to put it on rim to count there.

Source: https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf

GGGG

No you are correct.  If his second FT doesn't hit the rim, it would have been a dead ball to Florida.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Sultan of Slap O' Fivin' on March 26, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
No you are correct.  If his second FT doesn't hit the rim, it would have been a dead ball to Florida.
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#UnleashSean

Quote from: brewcity77 on March 26, 2017, 01:19:47 PM
But doesn't it have to hit the rim? I'm almost positive there's something about contact with the rim in there. Here's what I was referring to, though these are from rules a couple years ago:

So according to that, the ball has to enter the basket or touch the rim or back-rim before the free throw ends. Then below that is this:

So if Hayes whips it off the backboard, it would be a free throw violation and Florida would get the ball at the nearest spot to the violation.

This prevents players from whipping the second free throw off the backboard as hard as possible to rebound their own attempt. Hayes had to hit the rim for it to count. If someone is better at interpreting the rules, please enlighten us, but I'm pretty sure he had to put it on rim to count there.

Source: https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Groups/104883/Library/files/BR15.pdf

You are correct, ball has to make contact with the rim. You are also correct in assuming that it isn't actually that easy of a task to purposely miss a free throw while still hitting the rim.

Stretchdeltsig

The Warriors will crush the rodents next year.  End of story.

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: Dread Pirate Roberts on March 25, 2017, 02:14:12 PM
Koenig, Hayes, Brown, and Showalter.

Combined:

Minutes 113 (56% of the 200 minutes per game)
Points 43.2 (59% of the 73/game they average)
Rebounds 13.4 (36% of the 37 per game they average)



I am surprised those stats are not much higher than that.

Benny B

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 26, 2017, 05:44:15 PM
The Warriors will crush the rodents next year.  End of story.

I agree with this analysis.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

mu-rara

Quote from: naginiF on March 25, 2017, 07:29:07 PM

i can't believe that some folks (heisey/kenosha) don't get that a lot of us don't live in WI and don't give a rip about other WI school's basketball programs. 


A lot of us don't live in Chicago.  We don't complain about the endless Cub/Cutler/Blackhawk/Bulls (when they are winning) threads.

jesmu84

Quote from: mu-rara on March 27, 2017, 05:20:30 PM
A lot of us don't live in Chicago.  We don't complain about the endless Cub/Cutler/Blackhawk/Bulls (when they are winning) threads.

Aren't those in the Superbar though?

Tugg Speedman

Another one worth revisiting in light of yesterday's game.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: 1.21 Jigawatts on December 10, 2017, 05:28:44 AM
Another one worth revisiting in light of yesterday's game.

Brew and Wades mocking your well analyzed and apparently prescient post. LOL.

Benny B

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on March 26, 2017, 05:44:15 PM
The Warriors will crush the rodents next year.  End of story.

I believe Stretch deserves a shout-out for his prognostication.



I, on the other hand, will admit that I was simply jumping on his bandwagon with gold-colored glasses.  I had no idea that it was going to be a beating, nay a slaughtering, nay a decapitation and piking.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

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