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Majerus HOF

Started by Eye, February 17, 2017, 07:43:48 AM

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Quote from: The Equalizer on February 18, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
Johnson wouldn't have been around for Majerus' final season. He was a frosh in 81-82, and played 82-83 and 83-84. Had he remained eligible, he would have played the 84-85 season.

Majerus final season was 85-86.

I think his point was that we would have made the dance in 84-85 instead of finishing 18-10 and going to the NIT.  This in turn would have had an impact on the next season (seat not as hot) and quite possibly beyond....

Herman Cain

Quote from: The Equalizer on February 18, 2017, 02:26:44 AM
Johnson wouldn't have been around for Majerus' final season. He was a frosh in 81-82, and played 82-83 and 83-84. Had he remained eligible, he would have played the 84-85 season.

Majerus final season was 85-86.
Dwayne sat out a year to try and regain eligibility and hoped to play in 85-86.   Here is a good article about the plan which ultimately did not succeed.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/15/sports/scouting-166835.html

Johnson played his final year in D3.

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    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

4everwarriors

Rick missed on Wolf and Olson. End of story, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Goose

Wolf and Ricky broke the big guys heart. It was time for a change and it worked out great for Rick.

Nukem2

Quote from: Marquette Fan In NY on February 18, 2017, 09:33:21 AM
Dwayne sat out a year to try and regain eligibility and hoped to play in 85-86.   Here is a good article about the plan which ultimately did not succeed.

http://www.nytimes.com/1984/09/15/sports/scouting-166835.html

Johnson played his final year in D3.
Yep, went to UW-Whitewater

brandx

Rick was my favorite MU coach, but he is not a HOF coach. Back then, coaches could discuss recruits any time they wanted. He was on Homer's show every week during the season (back when Homer actually talked about sports) talking about recruiting. He would talk at length about guys he was going after - Wolf, Olson, Doc, Downing, Reeder, etc. for hours on end.

But, he didn't even make the Dance over 50% of his years coaching. And most of the time that he did was at Utah which is not exactly a blue blood.

The HOF is for great coaches and players - not for very good ones.

Nukem2

Quote from: brandx on February 18, 2017, 12:08:37 PM
Rick was my favorite MU coach, but he is not a HOF coach. Back then, coaches could discuss recruits any time they wanted. He was on Homer's show every week during the season (back when Homer actually talked about sports) talking about recruiting. He would talk at length about guys he was going after - Wolf, Olson, Doc, Downing, Reeder, etc. for hours on end.

But, he didn't even make the Dance over 50% of his years coaching. And most of the time that he did was at Utah which is not exactly a blue blood.

The HOF is for great coaches and players - not for very good ones.
Homer was yet not around back then in the 80s.  Rick was on all of the local radio shows quite often.  But, the NCAA had not yet cracked down on talking about recruits (both Al and Hank would talk about the recruiting prospects as well). 

The Lens

Jack Baker's sports talk?

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MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 17, 2017, 05:08:17 PM
Rick was an integral part of a dynasty.  Why shouldn't his assistant numbers also be considered in his total body of work for the HOF?  Should we dismiss Denny Crum's work at UCLA where he was Wooden's assistant from 1963-1971?  Btw, Rick's career head coach winning percentage was .706 (with 517 wins) versus Crum's .696.

So, if the criteria is to exclude the body of work as an assistant, please start the petition to drum Tex Winter out.

Crum didn't need his work as an assistant to be a HoFer. Neither will Williams or Izzo.

As for Tex vs. Rick, I'll tell you what ... if Rick had been a key assistant on teams that won 10 NBA championships, I'd be touting him, too. Tex has the kind of resume an assistant MUST have if he's to be considered for the Hall.

Again, I was a big fan of Majerus and knew him personally. He simply didn't win enough as a coach to be a HoFer.
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Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: MU82 on February 18, 2017, 03:21:34 PM
Crum didn't need his work as an assistant to be a HoFer. Neither will Williams or Izzo.

As for Tex vs. Rick, I'll tell you what ... if Rick had been a key assistant on teams that won 10 NBA championships, I'd be touting him, too. Tex has the kind of resume an assistant MUST have if he's to be considered for the Hall.

Again, I was a big fan of Majerus and knew him personally. He simply didn't win enough as a coach to be a HoFer.

What is your feeling on Bo Ryan's chances?