The Big East In The NCAA And It Reputation?

[forgetful]

Purdue simply choked that game.  Up 13 with 3 minutes to go....why they didn't go big most of that game was just crazy. 

Big Ten ended up ranked 5th in the country, which is a down year for them and about right. 

Let's not forget that the top 4 seeds this year had more losses than any top 4 in history of the NCAA tournament.  This is what it is....a crap shoot.

It is not a crap shoot.  It is still a game based on skill.  But I agree with you that the league ratings had the Big10 about right, but the NCAA over-rated them by putting in teams like Michigan and UW.  Those teams showed in the non-conference that they were not very good.  They improved their stance by taking advantage of the Big10 being over-rated by computers and the NCAA.

The tournament reflects that.

[GWSwarrior]

Yes and no. There's a reason a #16 has never beaten a #1.

It might be a crapshoot for seeds 3-14 but if you are a top 2 seed anything less than a Sweet 16 is a huge disappointment. You have extremely favorable matchups leading up to the Sweet 16.

Tell that to Sparty

[Herman Cain]

I think what is most important for the Big East is to amass the large number of NCAA units possibles.  That means Xavier and Villanova really need to make it to the second weekend. Two elite 8s would be great. Providence Butler is gravy. If they somehow win against the top seeds they have as good a chance as anyone to make it to the final 4.

We have a good reputation as a league. We are averaging half our teams each year in the tournament.

Marquette needs to do a better job of scheduling as it hurts the whole league for us to have a lousy RPI. Georgetown needs to get back on form as well. 

Nova has a tough match up against Iowa. They need to step up and play the way they have all year.

[LAZER]

Tell that to Sparty

Jay Wright literally said this today, which I appreciate.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

It must be March if it's time to carpet bomb threads with the crapshoot corollary.

[ChicosBailBonds]

It is not a crap shoot.  It is still a game based on skill.  But I agree with you that the league ratings had the Big10 about right, but the NCAA over-rated them by putting in teams like Michigan and UW.  Those teams showed in the non-conference that they were not very good.  They improved their stance by taking advantage of the Big10 being over-rated by computers and the NCAA.

The tournament reflects that.

Do you think Wisconsin wasn't going to get in with wins over teams like Syracuse on the road, who did get in?  Temple, who also got in.  Green Bay, also got in.  VCU, also got in.  Indiana, the Big Ten Champion.  Iowa, Michigan State, Maryland, etc?   

[forgetful]

Do you think Wisconsin wasn't going to get in with wins over teams like Syracuse on the road, who did get in?  Temple, who also got in.  Green Bay, also got in.  VCU, also got in.  Indiana, the Big Ten Champion.  Iowa, Michigan State, Maryland, etc?

Syracuse is crap also.  Have you watched them play? 

When your best win is VCU and Temple out of conference and you lost to the likes of Western Illinois, Georgetown and UWM (two of those at home), you are not a tournament team, unless you have big wins in a good conference.  The Big10 was not actually a good conference this year.

UW would have went 0-6 against Nova/Xavier/Seton Hall.  They would have a losing record in the Big East.

[brandx]

I think what is most important for the Big East is to amass the large number of NCAA units possibles.  That means Xavier and Villanova really need to make it to the second weekend. Two elite 8s would be great. Providence Butler is gravy. If they somehow win against the top seeds they have as good a chance as anyone to make it to the final 4.

We have a good reputation as a league. We are averaging half our teams each year in the tournament.

Marquette needs to do a better job of scheduling as it hurts the whole league for us to have a lousy RPI. Georgetown needs to get back on form as well. 

Nova has a tough match up against Iowa. They need to step up and play the way they have all year.

I think it enhances the reputation of the league once you get teams to the Sweet Sixteen. Less clutter and people are paying more attention.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Syracuse is crap also.  Have you watched them play? 

When your best win is VCU and Temple out of conference and you lost to the likes of Western Illinois, Georgetown and UWM (two of those at home), you are not a tournament team, unless you have big wins in a good conference.  The Big10 was not actually a good conference this year.

UW would have went 0-6 against Nova/Xavier/Seton Hall.  They would have a losing record in the Big East.

Well, they likely get to play Xavier next game. 

I don't think they would have a losing record in the Big East.  Once Nigel Hayes started figuring things out, they became a different team.  They also wouldn't lose to all of those teams at home.

Don't get me wrong, they are an average UW team, but they are still worthy of a NCAA bid.

[bilsu]

I think it is more important to the Big East than the so called power five conferences. Once the NCAA tournamnet is over the attention switches to football and that lasts until the football championship game.

[Big Papi]

NCAA tourney success matters. 

Consistent tourney success year over year matters. 

The reputation of the Big East is that it is a good conference.  Success in the NCAA tourney year over year will make it a great conference.  Add to it NCAA credits and it is all good. 

It doesn't have to be the same teams year after year but if we can get a Big East team in the Final Four every year, it becomes a lot harder for anyone to knock the conference that it is a shell of its former self.  Then you have a reputation that it is a great conference and those Big East bubble teams in any given year get a longer look.