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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 27, 2016, 01:20:28 PM
because of his size a lot of calls will go against him. Refs see a big guy plow through a smaller guy, they seem to call more charging fouls

HE invites a lot of those calls by having a tendency to lead with his elbow and raise his arm in an attempt to make space for himself on the dribble.  He probably got away with that in High School because the refs aren't as good and guys guarding him weren't as savvy.  Now they are ready to flop.  The charge late in the game at St Johns was an awful call but generally HE's charges are deserved (we can see them clearly from row V) and in fact he probably could be called for even more.
This kind of thing stop him from being as effective for MU as he otherwise might be but I agree it does little to change his NBA potential.  The offensive player gets the benefit of any and ALL doubt in the NBA.

brandx

Quote from: jsheim on January 27, 2016, 10:43:24 AM
OK who do you think gets picked higher? Stone or Ellenson?
I think Stone goes after this year. That's his goal.

fewer minutes on a star team....but one breakout game.

Depends on measurements at the combine.

Stone is listed anywhere from 6'10" to 7'0"". I don't think he is - but if he measures 6'10" or over, I think Diamond goes before Henry. But in reality, it depends on a teams needs.

If Stone does measure big, I would rather see the Bucks take him than HE. They both have high basketball IQs for a freshman.

legacy

Not a knock on Henry at all, but more of a related comment.  Luke is quite efficient.  I don't understand why they don't run more plays for him, or make him more of a focus in the offense.

GGGG

Quote from: legacy on January 27, 2016, 04:11:58 PM
Not a knock on Henry at all, but more of a related comment.  Luke is quite efficient.  I don't understand why they don't run more plays for him, or make him more of a focus in the offense.


He can really only score from one location (near the basket) and oftentimes struggle to get the ball into him.

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Quote from: legacy on January 27, 2016, 04:11:58 PM
Not a knock on Henry at all, but more of a related comment.  Luke is quite efficient.  I don't understand why they don't run more plays for him, or make him more of a focus in the offense.
Traci and company take terrible angles on entry passes.
Luke continues to improve with each hand from both blocks.
Needs a few more interior moves to add to the repertoire, but love the improvement.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Class71 on January 27, 2016, 02:55:57 PM
I prefer to talk about the team since this is a TEAM sport. Great for HE  if he is an NBA draft pick and he makes a ton of bucks. I am just more interested in the TEAM and MU tradition. We had some great players who needed to develop and they did. IMO that is what makes MU unique. We produce Butler's, Mathews and Jae's. And earlier Wades's, and Thompson's and so many others. If someone is here one year and gone tomorrow on a team that did not reach their potential what was the point?  It leaves me with very mixed feelings and a great feeling of  non accomplishment.

Even if Henry leaves after this year he still helped the team. Can you imagine how bad we would be without him?
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 27, 2016, 05:08:10 PM
Even if Henry leaves after this year he still helped the team. Can you imagine how bad we would be without him?

Not only that, he helped the program. I like to think it raised our standing in the eyes of future high-ranked studs.

"Marquette was able to attract a 1-and-done, top-10 NBA draft pick? Hmm ... maybe I should consider Marquette, too."

Might not be a HUGE thing, but I think everything helps.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on January 27, 2016, 05:08:10 PM
Even if Henry leaves after this year he still helped the team. Can you imagine how bad we would be without him?

There is a reason why the value add is low and his help is for one year. Certainly he has great skills for a Freshman. I am afraid I just do not obsess on one player who as a freshman is impressive but not like a Senior Kemba Walker who carries a team to a national championship. We just have a different persepective. I look for more than a one year blip that wins a few extra games in one season. I wish him success but I do not see this season as a drawing card for recruits. Wade, Butler, Matthews and Crowder are the cards that pull in recruits.  I hope that HE can be added to that list but it is to early to tell if HE will develop the skills to play more than a few years in the NBA.
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Quote from: MU82 on January 27, 2016, 05:44:18 PM
Not only that, he helped the program. I like to think it raised our standing in the eyes of future high-ranked studs.

"Marquette was able to attract a 1-and-done, top-10 NBA draft pick? Hmm ... maybe I should consider Marquette, too."

Might not be a HUGE thing, but I think everything helps.

Not only that, but any potential grad transfers could look at the numbers Henry racked up and realize Wojo's system could help them succeed. I don't see any downside to Henry being here, even if he declares in April.

MU82

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 27, 2016, 07:06:36 PM
Not only that, but any potential grad transfers could look at the numbers Henry racked up and realize Wojo's system could help them succeed. I don't see any downside to Henry being here, even if he declares in April.

Good point about grad transfers. I hadn't thought of that.
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What's wrong with a 19 year old who's going for 16 and 10? Hmm...

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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on January 27, 2016, 04:16:49 PM

He can really only score from one location (near the basket) and oftentimes struggle to get the ball into him.
True, but he can go left or right, and he is very good at kicki g back out to an open shooter when there is a collapse. I do agree its all about getting him the ball. Hopefully Duane is getting his confidence up with the shots so far tonight and he can be the zone buster we need.
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Quote from: MU82 on January 27, 2016, 05:44:18 PM
Not only that, he helped the program. high-rankI like to think it raised our standing in the eyes of future ed studs.

"Marquette was able to attract a 1-and-done, top-10 NBA draft pick? Hmm ... maybe I should consider Marquette, too."

Might not be a HUGE thing, but I think everything helps.
I do not think this is true at all. Even one and dones want to play in the NCAA tournament.

brewcity77

Quote from: wadesworld on January 27, 2016, 07:36:36 PM
What's wrong with a 19 year old who's going for 16 and 10? Hmm...

Nothing, but don't get blinded by basic metrics. PPG especially is easy to be impressed by, but eFG% says a lot more about a player's quality contributions than PPG ever will.

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