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Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 22, 2015, 12:55:49 PM
So Marquette holds no responsibility to the sponsors and organizer to let them know that their players would not be participating even though Marquette's previous coach is the one that encouraged its creation and even though there was no question about its players participation in previous years?

That is a very poor way to work with sponsors and donors. Very poor.

This is what I would say to sponsors if I were the organizer.  Especially if the organizer promised Marquette players.

On the flip side no - I actually think it is incumbent on the organizer to confirm the participation of the players in their event.  Last year was year one and Wojo was 3 months into the job...  I would be cautious about making any promises to people -- especially knowing there are practices and a trip to italy on the horizon.

Now if they lied to him or misled him...different story


TAMU, Knower of Ball

I love how everyone loves making judgements when they have zero information on what did or did not happen. This is a mountain molehill situation
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I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


swoopem

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 22, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
I don't disagree with you. It seems like Jim is viewed as you suggest.

But that doesn't mean that he doesn't need to be treated with some respect with regards to this issue. They don't owe him a detailed explanation. They don't owe him access.  They simply should have given him a heads up.

Is there any evidence that says they didn't give him a heads up?
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goldeneagle91114

Quote from: TAMU Eagle on July 22, 2015, 02:29:46 PM
I love how everyone loves making judgements when they have zero information on what did or did not happen. This is a mountain molehill situation

I get the whole "mountain out of a molehill" thing. But come on, Marquette has an awful track record when it comes to PR/communication, that goes back years.

I just wish they would bring a  competent public relations person on staff.

79Warrior

Quote from: swoopem on July 22, 2015, 02:29:59 PM
Is there any evidence that says they didn't give him a heads up?

Yep. no heads up, no communication whatsoever despite inquiries. Pretty shabby treatment.

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Quote from: 79Warrior on July 22, 2015, 03:01:26 PM
Yep. no heads up, no communication whatsoever despite inquiries. Pretty shabby treatment.

Sharing that fact can't be good for the annual membership drive.

keefe

Quote from: goldeneagle91114 on July 22, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
I suppose Strong must have been a "hanger on" as well, right? they did need to keep him informed on the coaching search? None of this makes for a more disciplined, professional enterprise.

Wow. You really misunderstood what I wrote.


Death on call

keefe

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 22, 2015, 02:13:46 PM
I don't disagree with you. It seems like Jim is viewed as you suggest.

But that doesn't mean that he doesn't need to be treated with some respect with regards to this issue. They don't owe him a detailed explanation. They don't owe him access.  They simply should have given him a heads up.

All else being equal I would agree with you. But there is more to this story. Frankly, Wojo doesn't owe Done Deal sh1t. And I think Wojo will sleep very well tonight regardless of Ganzer's support. Our program will flourish under Wojo and that has nothing to do with the Pro Am.


Death on call

GooooMarquette

Is there any evidence MU made this decision long ago, and chose to wait until yesterday to announce it?

keefe

Quote from: GooooMarquette on July 22, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
Is there any evidence MU made this decision long ago, and chose to wait until yesterday to announce it?

Doc - just another case of Scoop gone awry!


Death on call

avid1010

any sponsor that is pissed over this is either paying too much to sponsor what was a crap pro-am that continuously got worse rather than better or too small to be sponsoring the event.  i like that wojo said no more.

GGGG

Quote from: keefe on July 22, 2015, 01:19:35 PM
Wojo runs a very tight ship and controls content. Just watch any of his interviews to understand his policy. If Tanned Tommy was tight lipped Wojo's sphincter can open beer bottles.

Frankly, I appreciate Wojo's approach. It might frustrate Scoop readers and infuriate people like Ganzer who are trying to monetize their links with MU hoops but Wojo's policy makes for a more disciplined, professional enterprise.


Think about the Milwaukee Magazine article that was written about Buzz.  Think about the Marquette film series that at one point showed an assistant chastising Reggie Smith. 

This is most definitely a different approach.  The content is very controlled, and frankly not terribly interesting.  I don't think either is right or wrong, and as long as they win, I don't really care.

keefe

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 22, 2015, 05:19:09 PM

as long as they win, I don't really care.

Here, here. That is the bottom line.

However, how we win is also important. Very important, in fact.


Death on call

Herman Cain

It has been known for months that we are going to Italy. The Pro Am organizers obviously recognized the likelihood that our kids wouldn't be participating was high.  I don't believe this came as a surprise.




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Selling stock in bausch and lomb Valeant Pharmaceuticals International Inc right now.

keefe

Quote from: rocky_warrior on July 22, 2015, 10:59:31 PM
Selling stock in bausch and lomb Valeant Pharmaceuticals International Inc right now.

If Bausch and Lomb is gone then so, too, must be all the contacts...


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keefe

Heard from someone back in Milwaukee that essentially all of the marquee players didn't show for the tournament. Likely the death knell for this event (if MU not participating wasn't.)


Death on call

4everwarriors

Rosters look like a Who's Who of the Saturday mornin' YMCA League, hey?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

keefe

Quote from: 4everwarriors on July 26, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
Rosters look like a Who's Who of the Saturday mornin' YMCA League, hey?

Ners was playing?


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MU B2002

Quote from: The Sultan of Sunshine on July 22, 2015, 01:00:48 PM
"Hey Jim. Just so you know, Wojo doesn't want to have the players in the Pro-am this summer due to the Italy trip.  And we aren't sure about future participation either."

Not hard. An email that takes 20 seconds to send.


Or they could just tweet at him.


"MUAthletics: @IWB Marquette players are out of the Pro-Am. #donedeal"
"VPI"
- Mike Hunt

MUEng92

Does MU sign up all of the players or do the players sign up as individuals?

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: MUEng92 on July 27, 2015, 12:06:24 PM
Does MU sign up all of the players or do the players sign up as individuals?

I heard DJ Newbill was responsible for filling out the Pro-Am applications for all MU players this year.

MUEng92

Quote from: Lazar's Headband on July 27, 2015, 12:18:30 PM
I heard DJ Newbill was responsible for filling out the Pro-Am applications for all MU players this year.

Outstanding.  Do I at least get a Thank You for setting that up on a tee for you (without even realizing it)?

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: MUEng92 on July 27, 2015, 12:20:29 PM
Outstanding.  Do I at least get a Thank You for setting that up on a tee for you (without even realizing it)?

Thank you.  Your reward is 10 Schrute bucks.

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