John Dawson Time...

[NersEllenson]

Jake and Jake alone may have an exception to that rule.  But Buzz did say in the press conference after the last game that they have a rule, no shots until a paint touch.  He emphasized that Juan took a shot early without a paint touch and was pulled out of the game immediately for it.

That is why a couple of us have been emphasizing that Juan not shooting is no necessarily because he doesn't want to shoot, rather he is following the team rule.

That is troubling to hear...you should take the best available first shot, as there is no guarantee a better one will come around later in the possession, particularly with our PG not being a threat/creative to create for others.

Hard to play loose when one mistake and you are pulled....which it seems has historically been the case with Mayo, perhaps Juan, now DG this year.

[AirPunches]

Derrick not starting today. Davante in his place.

[Nevada233]

Derrick not starting today. Davante in his place.

Best win of the Year!!

[Nevada233]

Theres nothing that shows "DNP dawson" is gonna play any real minutes this year so im looking past that.

So is Anyone against Jamil taking over primary PG and wilson back him up. That would certainly at least make the defense honest and have to guard him and Jake on the perimeter

Jamil (20-25 min at pg and Derrick 10 min)
Jake
Juan
Deonte (Good deonte not the JR smith my shots the 1st option and last option)
Otule

Starting?? Maybe.

Cant say i didnt call it. Jamil at point.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Cant say i didnt call it. Jamil at point.

Uh-huh, and how is that working out for us?  Way to go!

[Nevada233]

Uh-huh, and how is that working out for us?  Way to go!

Even worse. Sheesh this is ugly.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Even worse. Sheesh this is ugly.

there may yet be hope...

[Nevada233]

there may yet be hope...

When Jakes making shots. Its always better. Derrick doesnt turn the ball over either.

Go warriors

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Just to clear this up...

Dawson is at least 3rd on the PG depth chart at this point, and he might even be 4th behind Mayo (depending on the specific game).

He will not play much in conference (if at all).

[GooooMarquette]

Sorry Gooo, but you and a few others are simply in denial as to how bad Derrick's "performance" is negatively impacting this team.  Virtually every team wants to score in transition - against a defense that isn't set - no coach would advocate not pushing the ball off of missed shots - particularly if you have a team of decent athletes.  You slow the pace when you are severely undermanned/undertalented - which we are not, other than at the PG position.

With today's starting lineup, we were getting our a$$es kicked.  When Derrick came in, we came back and won going away.

You're the one in denial if you can't admit that we played better with Derrick in than with him out.  But I guess looking at the facts would hamper your delusions.

[BallBoy]

With today's starting lineup, we were getting our a$$es kicked.  When Derrick came in, we came back and won going away.

You're the one in denial if you can't admit that we played better with Derrick in than with him out.  But I guess looking at the facts would hamper your delusions.

Whoa whoa whoa.  You forget the grambling game when Dawson had one pass against the second string in a blow out game.  Based on that 30 seconds, had Dawson played from the start MU would have won by 300. 

[Wojo'sMojo]

With today's starting lineup, we were getting our a$$es kicked.  When Derrick came in, we came back and won going away.

You're the one in denial if you can't admit that we played better with Derrick in than with him out.  But I guess looking at the facts would hamper your delusions.

Yeah the 2 pts, 2 rbs, 3 assists, with 2 to's in 31 minutes must have been what sparked us today lol! Or maybe it was the 2-6 from the ft line! Wow why do we even bother putting him on the bench at all with production like that 

[GGGG]

You continue not to get it.

It's not that Derrick is an all American by any means...it's that there are no better alternatives.

[GooooMarquette]

Yeah the 2 pts, 2 rbs, 3 assists, with 2 to's in 31 minutes must have been what sparked us today lol! Or maybe it was the 2-6 from the ft line! Wow why do we even bother putting him on the bench at all with production like that 

So individual stats are more important than how the team performs when a player is in?  Seriously?

Sorry you missed the game and only read the box score.

[Wojo'sMojo]

So individual stats are more important than how the team performs when a player is in?  Seriously?

Sorry you missed the game and only read the box score.

I did watch the game...you are implying that we started to play better because of Derrick, I disagree. We pulled away because Gardner became unstoppable. It wouldn't have mattered who was in at pg.

[GooooMarquette]

I did watch the game...you are implying that we started to play better because of Derrick, I disagree. We pulled away because Gardner became unstoppable. It wouldn't have mattered who was in at pg.

So Davante was ineffective at the beginning when Derrick was out.  Then Derrick comes in, Davante gets hot and MU makes a nice run.  Then Derrick is out again at the beginning of the second half and Jamil gets 2 TOs and a foul in the first two minutes, so we bring Derrick back in...and Davante gets hot and we win going away.

But that had nothing to do with Derrick at PG?  You might want to let Buzz know....

[Wojo'sMojo]

So Davante was ineffective at the beginning when Derrick was out.  Then Derrick comes in, Davante gets hot and MU makes a nice run.  Then Derrick is out again at the beginning of the second half and Jamil gets 2 TOs and a foul in the first two minutes, so we bring Derrick back in...and Davante gets hot and we win going away.

But that had nothing to do with Derrick at PG?  You might want to let Buzz know....

Did you watch the game? It had nothing to do with Derrick...he had 3 assists all game and I know for sure 2 of them weren't to Gardner. Gardner was posting up and backing down his man, that's where all his points were coming from. Not from some great offensive plan executed by Derrick.

[GooooMarquette]

Did you watch the game? It had nothing to do with Derrick...he had 3 assists all game and I know for sure 2 of them weren't to Gardner. Gardner was posting up and backing down his man, that's where all his points were coming from. Not from some great offensive plan executed by Derrick.

Basketball is a 5 on 5 game.  If you want to delude yourself into believing the result had nothing to do with anyone but Davante, go for it.  I'm inclined to believe the other 9 guys on the court impacted the outcome as well.  And the fact remains - when the other guys included Derrick, we did very well; when they didn't, we stunk.  

By the way, none of Derrick's assists were to Davante.  Two were to Jake for open 3s, and the other was a beautiful kickout to Todd for an open 3.  None to Davante...but all having a huge impact on making sure DePaul had to pay more attention to the perimeter.  But I'll bet you think that didn't help Davante one bit....

[tower912]

An argument can be made that Buzz finally found the right combination against that team, as Davante, Jamil, Jake, Todd, and Derrick played a lot of minutes in a row while MU made its run.   But no matter how you slice it, Derrick was the point guard during the the 36-16 run. 

[Nevada233]

Just to clear this up...

Dawson is at least 3rd on the PG depth chart at this point, and he might even be 4th behind Mayo (depending on the specific game).

He will not play much in conference (if at all).

He wont see the floor this year or next with Du Wilson coming back in confrence play unless its a blowout. Those come few and far between in conference play.