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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 11, 2013, 11:24:45 AM


You're refusing to back off of your bizarre, ultra-strict PERSONAL rules and it just doesn't work in the world of rational thought.



Bizarre and ultra-strict rules are his life blood. They conger up remembrances of those much better than now days, where white guys had it all and women and Negroes knew their place, where young boys never ratted out the molester priest for fear of added recriminations from their own parents. Those were the days.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 11, 2013, 01:21:24 PM
I consistently defend Buzz from all your BS because I think very highly of him as a coach and a person. I'm critical of Crean because I think he's moderately inferior to Buzz as a coach and a disaster as a human being. The more I know about both the more confident I am of my opinion/observation.

You're the one who's engaged in an odd/ironic kabuki dance on the subject. You say you love Buzz, think he's a great guy, but never miss an opportunity to take a passive aggressive shot at him. And you say you hate Crean, think he's a total douche, but you never miss a chance to defend/praise him.

Still waiting for the apology....I've been saying "so far so good" within 50 days of his hire, despite your comments.  Proof was provided....apology waiting..... Why is it so hard for you to ever admit you can be wrong, too?

I don't know if the other guy is a disaster of a human being...I didn't care for him, but there are others I haven't cared for personally that have been fine human beings, philanthropic, etc, but I trust Diener, Wade, Novak and others wouldn't be with a disaster of a human being.   To each their own.  If you wish to say they aren't as good as you at judging character, that is up to you.   I actually miss plenty of chances to "defend" him...there you go with "never".."always"...it's like clockwork.  Lazy, small, incapable or broader thought or full analysis.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 11, 2013, 11:24:45 AM


You're refusing to back off of your bizarre, ultra-strict PERSONAL rules and it just doesn't work in the world of rational thought.



I don't even know what this means.  Do you think I'm using leaches on my daughter?  Do I have a chastity belt on my wife?  Do I go to church every day (or for that matter every Sunday)?  Do I live in a gated community with all white people?  Exactly what do yo mean with this charge?  You mean because I think life was better back in the day as evidence of lower crime rates, not having to lock the door when you leave, not worrying about kids walking to school, etc?  I can't imagine what else it is that you are referencing, but I'm sure it is bizarre and ultra strict. 

Jay Bee

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2013, 01:24:23 PM
LOL.  I like that one.


NY Times if you prefer   http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/19/health/19divo.html?_r=0     They say never topped 41%, often lower.  Other study says 33%.  No one believes 50%, except for a bunch of Americans too stupid to know better.

Good grief. You're looking at HuffPo and the NY Times for data on a complex estimate? Might as well ask a homeless man on the street.

The reality is MOST believe it's well above 30 and many think 40-50% is a reasonable estimate. You're simply off base when you say "it's not close to 50%". You're combining two things together inappropriately: (1) the "myth" of a 50% divorce rate related to faulty math and (2) reasonable estimates of 40-50% based on variuos research (btw, with the change in demographics and the economic status of the country, it could go higher).

Is it reasonable to argue that the divorce rate COULD BE as low as 35%? Probably. Is it reasonable to argue the divorce rate COULD BE around 50%? Absolutely.

Are countless "facts and figures" presented by the media wrong every single day? You better believe it, or else you're believing bad info.

http://www.bgsu.edu/downloads/cas/file94173.pdf

Now, you gonna chime in on the $16MM monster-buyout provision or what?
The portal is NOT closed.

Jay Bee

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2013, 02:08:54 PM
I don't even know what this means.  Do you think I'm using leaches on my daughter?  Do I have a chastity belt on my wife?  Do I go to church every day (or for that matter every Sunday)?  Do I live in a gated community with all white people?  Exactly what do yo mean with this charge?  You mean because I think life was better back in the day as evidence of lower crime rates, not having to lock the door when you leave, not worrying about kids walking to school, etc?  I can't imagine what else it is that you are referencing, but I'm sure it is bizarre and ultra strict. 

Uhh, no. I referencing your refusal to acknowledge that "full judgment" isn't an action, rather it's just your own personal rules for determining when you would like to make a "full" or "final" judgment on a coach. It's not a term, as defined by you, that can be used in talking about others. It's your own strict and PERSONAL rules you go by, based on your individual decision.

To use your own odd rules to try and differentiate one judgment from another is what's bizarre.

I take no issue with most of your comments (including those in the past) regarding a better country that we had years ago. We're probably quite closely aligned on many things. It's just that you're 100% nuts when it comes to certain topics and/or people... such as "full judgments" and Buzz.
The portal is NOT closed.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on October 11, 2013, 01:57:37 PM
Still waiting for the apology....I've been saying "so far so good" within 50 days of his hire, despite your comments.  Proof was provided....apology waiting..... Why is it so hard for you to ever admit you can be wrong, too?



Apologize for what? Why would I apologize for your inability to read? I never said you didn't say "so far, so good" 50 days in - evidently you had said it multiple times, over and over again by then - when you knew almost nothing about him. Just shows how hollow and meaningless "so far, so good" is for you. Nothing but a throwaway, "We'll see". That was my point.

I won't ask you for an apology for your lack of reading skills - I'm not that needy.

brewcity77



Seriously? Divorce rates? WTF happened in here?

Newsdreams

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 11, 2013, 02:34:34 PM


Seriously? Divorce rates? WTF happened in here?
Just hope none of the recruits look at this......... :P
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 11, 2013, 02:17:35 PM
Good grief. You're looking at HuffPo and the NY Times for data on a complex estimate? Might as well ask a homeless man on the street.

The reality is MOST believe it's well above 30 and many think 40-50% is a reasonable estimate. You're simply off base when you say "it's not close to 50%". You're combining two things together inappropriately: (1) the "myth" of a 50% divorce rate related to faulty math and (2) reasonable estimates of 40-50% based on variuos research (btw, with the change in demographics and the economic status of the country, it could go higher).

Is it reasonable to argue that the divorce rate COULD BE as low as 35%? Probably. Is it reasonable to argue the divorce rate COULD BE around 50%? Absolutely.

Are countless "facts and figures" presented by the media wrong every single day? You better believe it, or else you're believing bad info.

http://www.bgsu.edu/downloads/cas/file94173.pdf

Now, you gonna chime in on the $16MM monster-buyout provision or what?

Oy vei.   

Is the common, believed stat thrown around all the time that the rate is 50%?  Yes or No?  With so much certainly you would think it is as certain as day will follow night?  Yes or no?

Is the actual rate 50%?  Yes or No?  Is there ANY legitimate study out there done by real sociologists, etc, that put it at 50%?  Yes or No?  Are there some cohorts do exceed in 50% or even higher?  Absolutely.  But overall, no.  National Center for Health Statistics pegs it at 43%.  Last I checked, 43% was closer to 40% than 50%, but maybe people like to change the rounding rules.  Other studies put it at 33%.  Feel free to dismiss those studies.

It is an urban myth that the divorce rate is 50% in this country. PERIOD.  Yet 50% is repeated so often you would think it is one of Newton's laws.

I like to wait 4 or 5 years to judge a coach fully, others do not.  I never said someone had to wait 5 years.  When you continue to say it, you are wrong as those words didn't come from me.  You are perpetuating a myth despite the evidence to the contrary.

I'm waiting to hear on the contract, as I told you the other day in an email.  Nothing has changed.

keefe



Death on call

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: newsdrms on October 11, 2013, 03:45:02 PM
Just hope none of the recruits look at this......... :P

You're giving them entirely too much credit....they have better things to do.

Lennys Tap


raul

As for the divorce rate it used to be around 50% but people don't marry as often as in the past and just live together and so that rate may have diminished.  As for apologies between bloggers, please don't. This is not Oprah or Dr. Phil. As for coaches Buzz is better than Crean. As to NBA talent there is no doubt that some of our players at MU  will be in the NBA in the near future, which ones is still to be seen. MU is loaded with talent and hopefully we can get a couple more recruits this weekend.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: raul on October 11, 2013, 11:48:45 PM
As for the divorce rate it used to be around 50% but people don't marry as often as in the past and just live together and so that rate may have diminished.  As for apologies between bloggers, please don't. This is not Oprah or Dr. Phil. As for coaches Buzz is better than Crean. As to NBA talent there is no doubt that some of our players at MU  will be in the NBA in the near future, which ones is still to be seen. MU is loaded with talent and hopefully we can get a couple more recruits this weekend.

Five for five, batting 1.000. Well done, Raul.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 11, 2013, 06:18:08 PM
4? Epiphany or typo?

Go back to what I posted two days ago with quotes from 2008 and beyond.  Not a typo....reading is your friend.

Where's the apology?


ChicosBailBonds

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Quote from: raul on October 11, 2013, 11:48:45 PM
As for the divorce rate it used to be around 50% but people don't marry as often as in the past and just live together and so that rate may have diminished.  As for apologies between bloggers, please don't. This is not Oprah or Dr. Phil. As for coaches Buzz is better than Crean. As to NBA talent there is no doubt that some of our players at MU  will be in the NBA in the near future, which ones is still to be seen. MU is loaded with talent and hopefully we can get a couple more recruits this weekend.

Raul, according to the NY Times article they indicate that is not true.  Yes, less people marry now and wait longer, but the divorce rate has never been above 43% per that article. 0 for 1

It's just good manners when you are wrong and accuse someone to apologize.  Has nothing to do with Dr. Phil.  For a certain person who likes to label people horrible human beings, simple apologies are one way to show a person is a decent human being.  Hmmmm....when you are wrong you are wrong, just apologize.  0 for 2

Buzz better coach? All subject to opinion.  Other coaches rank them about the same and they don't have red and crimson or blue and gold glasses on.  I believe the last such ranking was out a few months ago.  Draw

Agree on your last two points.

2 for 5.....Lenny likes to give hits out when they should be errors, he's a solid human being like that.  :P

rocky_warrior

Sigh...Chicos...knock it off.  Everyone else...you don't need to reply.

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