Bucks moving?

[Hards Alumni]

I know I sound like some sort of libertarian nutjob (I'm not), but what I wrote is true.

To say that their is a laundry list of people waiting to buy NBA teams isn't exactly accurate. There is a laundry list of people waiting to buy publicly subsidized NBA franchises.

The NBA business model is BAD for the majority of franchises. It's not sustain't I dimble without public funding.

I like basketball, and I'm ok with tax funded initiatives. However, I just don't see a new arena as a good investment for the city, and is pretty much just a hand out to a billionaire owner.

I get your point, I just think its flippant.  The reality is that these organizations will continue to obtain government funding for new arenas.  It is either that or they take the show on the road to someone who will.  Personally, I think if the Bucks were good we wouldn't be having this discussion.  If the Bucks were run like the SA Spurs there would already be a new stadium in the works.  The fact is the Bucks stink.  If they were the hottest ticket in town, it wouldn't be a question.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I get your point, I just think its flippant.  The reality is that these organizations will continue to obtain government funding for new arenas.  It is either that or they take the show on the road to someone who will.  Personally, I think if the Bucks were good we wouldn't be having this discussion.  If the Bucks were run like the SA Spurs there would already be a new stadium in the works.  The fact is the Bucks stink.  If they were the hottest ticket in town, it wouldn't be a question.

That's probably correct.

But, if all fairness, if they had a history of being good, and selling out games, the investment is much better because 20K fans 41 times per year is better than 14K fans 41 times per year.

I still don't think it's a good investment, but a winning franchise is a better bet.

Now, baseball is a bit of a different story because to me it draws so many more people for so many more days. It's not downtown, which limits it's economic impact, but nevertheless, 30,000 x 81 games is nice.

I understand that pro-sports are going to force the cities/states into paying for arenas, but there is a breaking point. It's not infinite. At some point enough cities will say "no thanks" and the carousel will stop. Would you pay 2 billion to keep the Bucks?

[Groin_pull]

That's probably correct.

But, if all fairness, if they had a history of being good, and selling out games, the investment is much better because 20K fans 41 times per year is better than 14K fans 41 times per year.

I still don't think it's a good investment, but a winning franchise is a better bet.

Now, baseball is a bit of a different story because to me it draws so many more people for so many more days. It's not downtown, which limits it's economic impact, but nevertheless, 30,000 x 81 games is nice.

I understand that pro-sports are going to force the cities/states into paying for arenas, but there is a breaking point. It's not infinite. At some point enough cities will say "no thanks" and the carousel will stop. Would you pay 2 billion to keep the Bucks?

However, a new arena could be used for more than Bucks basketball. There is MU basketball...hockey...concerts...and conventions.

What I don't understand is the public money spent on NFL stadiums. That's harder to justify. 2 preseason games and 8 regular season games. After that, it pretty much sits vacant for the rest of the year.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

However, a new arena could be used for more than Bucks basketball. There is MU basketball...hockey...concerts...and conventions.

What I don't understand is the public money spent on NFL stadiums. That's harder to justify. 2 preseason games and 8 regular season games. After that, it pretty much sits vacant for the rest of the year.

I don't like NFL stadiums either.

You are correct that other events could be held there, but the BC, as it stands, is fine for all of those things.

The reason Milwaukee needs a new arena is simply because the Bucks need more revenue streams. That's it.

[Cooby Snacks]

I love Milwaukee.

But only Milwaukee would think this is a feasible idea.  This is something a Division 2 college should consider.  Not a city that wants to retain an NBA team.

As long as we're being realistic, look! We can knock down Sinai and import Allen Fieldhouse!

[Benny B]

As long as we're being realistic, look! We can knock down Sinai and import Allen Fieldhouse!

Is that all you got?!?  Prepared to be bedazzled by the miracle of MS-Paint.

[Cooby Snacks]

Is that all you got?!?  Prepared to be bedazzled by the miracle of MS-Paint.

Oh yeah?

[mr.MUskie]

The NBA business model is BAD for the majority of franchises. It's not sustain't I dimble without public funding.

Interesting autocorrect you got there.   But at least it's consistent. 

[Brewtown Andy]

Oh yeah?

Ok, THAT'S funny.

[Benny B]

Oh yeah?

Yeah... well MSG comes with a Wine and Spirits shop (a natural fit for campus) and the Jewish Theater of New York (that's how we keep the peace with building on Sinai).