And about that inevitable ACC break up...

[GGGG]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21415170/source-notre-dame-acc-safe-from-another-big-ten-raid-for-foreseeable-future

"A source has told CBSSports.com there is no current "list" of expansion candidates to be taken in the near future by the Big Ten."

[Pakuni]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21415170/source-notre-dame-acc-safe-from-another-big-ten-raid-for-foreseeable-future

"A source has told CBSSports.com there is no current "list" of expansion candidates to be taken in the near future by the Big Ten."

Yeah, but just wait until they lose one team.
Ka and Boom.

[Tugg Speedman]

Remember, everyone in the ACC would like to get invited to the join the B1G, jumping means a lot more money.  So yes the B1G has no list now, check back next month, next spring and next summer to see if they still do not have a list.

[MUBurrow]

Yeah, but just wait until they lose one team.
Ka and Boom.

meh, theyd have to lose like 4 teams to really be fracked.  UConn, Cincy and South Florida are all hanging out dying for an invite. Obviously they'd be a drop off from whoever left, but they wouldn't be Green Wave nuclear.

[77ncaachamps]

as was stated in the other thread, when the ACC goes so goes the NCAA's clout and the spectre of a BCS-like system will drown out the smaller, non-FB schools.

[Tugg Speedman]

as was stated in the other thread, when the ACC goes so goes the NCAA's clout and the spectre of a BCS-like system will drown out the smaller, non-FB schools.

When the next school leaves the ACC it will be a race to get one of the 16 seats in the SEC, B12, B1G and Pac-12.  Then these 64 schools will break away and take the football National Championship with them.

The ACC will die and college sports will never be the same.

[honkytonk]

When the next school leaves the ACC it will be a race to get one of the 16 seats in the SEC, B12, B1G and Pac-12.  Then these 64 schools will break away and take the football National Championship with them.

The ACC will die and college sports will never be the same.

So if the Pac 12 expands, where do they go? Who do they add? They could have added BSU and SDSU a loooooong time ago. But they didnt. And they wont. They cant expand westward unless they add Shanghai University. So which conference is close to the PAC 12 that might be vulnerable?

Of course, you will argue that the B12 has a GoR agreement and everyone is a happy camper....but thats after they lost A&M and Mizzou and replaced those schools with WVU and.....TCU.

You dont know what will happen. I dont know what will happen. The GoR hasnt been challenged yet. The PAC wants to expand.

[Groin_pull]

So if the Pac 12 expands, where do they go? Who do they add? They could have added BSU and SDSU a loooooong time ago. But they didnt. And they wont. They cant expand westward unless they add Shanghai University. So which conference is close to the PAC 12 that might be vulnerable?

Of course, you will argue that the B12 has a GoR agreement and everyone is a happy camper....but thats after they lost A&M and Mizzou and replaced those schools with WVU and.....TCU.

You dont know what will happen. I dont know what will happen. The GoR hasnt been challenged yet. The PAC wants to expand.

Are we positive the Big XII is immune from attack? A few months ago, they were on life support. They appear pretty strong right now, but what if the PAC-12 takes another run at Texas and Oklahoma? The PAC-12 has a pretty thick wallet these days.

[bilsu]

They are done, if Texas decides to leave. In hindsite Texas staying is what hurt the Big East.

[GGGG]

When the next school leaves the ACC it will be a race to get one of the 16 seats in the SEC, B12, B1G and Pac-12.  Then these 64 schools will break away and take the football National Championship with them.

That's not going to happen.  They already have the national championship.  They have zero motivation to leave the NCAA right now.

[Tugg Speedman]

That's not going to happen.  They already have the national championship.  They have zero motivation to leave the NCAA right now.

Money!  They get to keep it all

[GGGG]

Money!  They get to keep it all

But will they make more profit.

First, they would have to replicate the NCAA somehow.  Athletic eligibility, championship staging for other sports, are all things that the NCAA takes care of now.  That is not an inexpensive proposition.

Second, the revenue for championships like the basketball tournament would undoubtedly decrease.  This is what the NCAA uses to cover the above.

Third, there are the legal and PR hits.

As long as the NCAA doesn't touch football, the BCS schools are going to stick around.  Right now they make 95% of the money, but bear none of the costs for the above.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21415170/source-notre-dame-acc-safe-from-another-big-ten-raid-for-foreseeable-future

"A source has told CBSSports.com there is no current "list" of expansion candidates to be taken in the near future by the Big Ten."

Never heard that before from the Big 10/11/14.

[The Equalizer]

When the next school leaves the ACC it will be a race to get one of the 16 seats in the SEC, B12, B1G and Pac-12.  Then these 64 schools will break away and take the football National Championship with them.

The ACC will die and college sports will never be the same.

I don't think it will be 64.  I think there will be room for 128+--which includes the D1 football playing schools in FCS and FBS.  That would leave room for the the new BE, the ACC, CUSA/MAC and one more west coast league.  Plus a handful of independents (ND, Texas?).  The rules would favor (but not exclude) the big 4 conferences--much as they do today.  

Then the big question becomes whether the NCAA Basketball Tournament is then limited to those 128 teams, or if they let the non-football schools participate.  Frightening is that the NCAA owns a tournament that they could easily repurpose into a parallel tournament for a different division of basektball-only schools.

[Dawson Rental]

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21415170/source-notre-dame-acc-safe-from-another-big-ten-raid-for-foreseeable-future

"A source has told CBSSports.com there is no current "list" of expansion candidates to be taken in the near future by the Big Ten."

Never heard that before from the Big 10/11/14.

I've got to agree with ZFB.  Wasn't this the status just prior to the Big Ten grabbing Maryland?  Who needs a list?  Just decide you want a team and 24 hours later, you have them.

The statement is also filled with equivocal language.  There is "no list".  How about intent?  "To be taken in the near future".  Great, they're gonna wait a couple of months.

I'm not saying that the Big Ten is gonna strike again right away.  I don't know, and in spite of recent events, I kind of doubt it.  But this statement isn't very reassuring.  It sounds to me like the dreaded "vote of confidence".

[GGGG]

I've got to agree with ZFB.  Wasn't this the status just prior to the Big Ten grabbing Maryland?  Who needs a list?  Just decide you want a team and 24 hours later, you have them.

The statement is also filled with equivocal language.  There is "no list".  How about intent?  "To be taken in the near future".  Great, they're gonna wait a couple of months.

I'm not saying that the Big Ten is gonna strike again right away.  I don't know, and in spite of recent events, I kind of doubt it.  But this statement isn't very reassuring.  It sounds to me like the dreaded "vote of confidence".

The Maryland addition was a months long process.

[mu03eng]

Money!  They get to keep it all

They also get to spend a lot of it fighting legal niceties like maintaining an anti-trust exception.  If they lose that exemption they lose their "free" labor force.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

The Maryland addition was a months long process.

Yup.  Now the Big 10 has a few months to work on adding 1-2 more schools after the "not adding more" comment.

[Dawson Rental]

The Maryland addition was a months long process.

So, you're saying that the Big Ten could have already begun the expansion process without being liars due to the "to be taken in the near future" language in their statement.

[GGGG]

Sure.  But I think Maryland was more motivated to bail than any of the other ACC schools are.