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mileskishnish72

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Win needed for double bye
« on: February 26, 2012, 07:51:13 AM »
It looks like we can't back in to a double bye. If MU, ND, Cin and GT all finish with 13 wins it seems we'd be the odd man out (if they make the tiebreaker on a mini-tournament of the teams involved).

So let's TCB in Cincy!

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 08:20:03 AM »
As of right now...yes. But if either Cincy loses at USF today or ND wins at GT tomorrow, we clinch the double-bye.

That said, I want to beat Cincy, beat Georgetown, and go in the unquestioned #2 team in the Big East. Especially because with how we're playing right now, I have absolutely zero fear of Syracuse. They're a good team, deserve the 1-seed, and I respect them, but I still think we're better.
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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 08:22:54 AM »
If we are to stay the #2 seed, which I think will happen...we need Louisville to move somewhere else, I really don't want to play them in MSG our first game after a double bye

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 10:13:40 AM »
They're a good team, deserve the 1-seed, and I respect them, but I still think we're better.

Wow you actually think MU is better then Syracuse? They seriously have 8 starters on that team, and they're huge. Your opinion isn't ridiculous; I think we are close to them, but overall I think they have a better team. Especially defensively.
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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 10:25:31 AM »
If we are to stay the #2 seed, which I think will happen...we need Louisville to move somewhere else, I really don't want to play them in MSG our first game after a double bye

If louisville wins today and usf loses today the winner of their next game will get the 6 seed because of head to head.

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 10:56:08 AM »
Wow you actually think MU is better then Syracuse? They seriously have 8 starters on that team, and they're huge. Your opinion isn't ridiculous; I think we are close to them, but overall I think they have a better team. Especially defensively.

MU's biggest struggle is rebounding. Length teams who control the boards hurt us. Cuse doesnt do that.......at all. We got down by 23 and bricked 3 after 3 at their place and still only lost by 7(got it within 3). We can definitely beat Cuse.

Against the rest of college basketball Cuse is probably better due to the way they can match up with UK, Unc etc over us. But head to head, I see them as no better than us.
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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 11:38:00 AM »
As of right now...yes. But if either Cincy loses at USF today or ND wins at GT tomorrow, we clinch the double-bye.

That said, I want to beat Cincy, beat Georgetown, and go in the unquestioned #2 team in the Big East. Especially because with how we're playing right now, I have absolutely zero fear of Syracuse. They're a good team, deserve the 1-seed, and I respect them, but I still think we're better.

If Davante reintegrates seamlessly, you have an argument, but as of right now, it's hard not to view them as better.  Definitely beatable, but not a 50/50 proposition or better at this point.  Hopefully you're right, though, in the end.

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 11:44:34 AM »
If Davante reintegrates seamlessly, you have an argument, but as of right now, it's hard not to view them as better.  Definitely beatable, but not a 50/50 proposition or better at this point.  Hopefully you're right, though, in the end.

I look at Syracuse's last 4 games, and I'm simply not impressed. They pulled one out of their backside at Louisville, escaped Rutgers with a win, couldn't put USF away at home until the last 3 minutes, and nearly puked away a massive lead yesterday.

Then I look at what we did. Dominated Cincy, UConn, and Rutgers, then beat WVU on the road with about 50% of our offense on the bench for much of the game.

At the end of the day, both teams tallied 4 in the win column, but we are playing better than they are right now. I stand by what I said. Going back to January 7th, since then, I think we've been more impressive. If it's Marquette and Syracuse, I say Marquette is better. They can go suck an orange.
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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 11:53:02 AM »
Syracuse's weakness is their transition game.  Their strength is their height and match up depth.  See the MU game as evidence of this in the tale of two halves.  MU or Mizzou can take Cuse.

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 12:21:29 PM »
I look at Syracuse's last 4 games, and I'm simply not impressed. They pulled one out of their backside at Louisville, escaped Rutgers with a win, couldn't put USF away at home until the last 3 minutes, and nearly puked away a massive lead yesterday.

Then I look at what we did. Dominated Cincy, UConn, and Rutgers, then beat WVU on the road with about 50% of our offense on the bench for much of the game.

At the end of the day, both teams tallied 4 in the win column, but we are playing better than they are right now. I stand by what I said. Going back to January 7th, since then, I think we've been more impressive. If it's Marquette and Syracuse, I say Marquette is better. They can go suck an orange.

You definitely have an argument that we've been playing better our last dozen games or so.  They have more pure talent, though, so we have to work off our backside to get those 12 wins in our last 13 games, while they have enough talent to cruise at times.  If we continue to play this hard, and Syracuse cruises a bit in the BET, then we might be the better team in that situation.

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2012, 04:44:39 PM »
Syracuse's weakness is their transition game.  Their strength is their height and match up depth.  See the MU game as evidence of this in the tale of two halves.  MU or Mizzou can take Cuse.

uhh cuse is actually referred to as a team that strives in transition.
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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2012, 04:54:33 PM »
uhh cuse is actually referred to as a team that strives in transition.

uhh you have to transition on both sides of the ball. 

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Re: Win needed for double bye
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2012, 05:11:00 PM »
uhh you have to transition on both sides of the ball. 

and they do that just fine as well, maybe not against us but really how many teams do shut down our transition?

Cuse wants a transition game....
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