The next big Wisconsin HS star?

[brewcity77]

Anyone with the name Diener from Fondle Sac has been thoroughly scouted. Perhaps he is a late bloomer,  but the cupboards are full at guard for 2012.  MU needs bigs.......at minimum more "switchables"

Full at 2-guard, maybe. We still need another point. Kris Dunn would be a perfect fit, especially if we got either Mitch McGary or Shaquille Cleare to go along with him.

[QuetteHoops]

Branden Key class of 2015. I believe he is going to be playing at Milwaukee Hamilton but I could be wrong looks like he has some serious skills.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mwballers#p/u/3/aIalRnyNjTE

[11GOGoldenEagles11]

Kevon looney. Looks much bigger than 6'4 here. Has some durant in him. Slithery smooth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ5AgMyka9Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Tugg Speedman]

Branden Key class of 2015. I believe he is going to be playing at Milwaukee Hamilton but I could be wrong looks like he has some serious skills.

http://www.youtube.com/user/mwballers#p/u/3/aIalRnyNjTE

Related to this ... Does anyone else think it is an "issue" that MU gets very few Milwaukee kids?  We all carry on about recruiting Wisconsin or Chicago but never Milwaukee.

I started a thread about it this spring

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26073.msg291094;topicseen#msg291094


1977 - Gary Rosenberger (MU High)
Bill Neary was from Wauwatosa but went to MU high
Jim Dudley was from South Milwaukee and sent to Prairie in Racine

1994 - Damon Key (MU High)
John Pogodzinski went to Pius XI but was from West Ellis

2003 - Robert Jackson (Washington HS)

2011 - Dwight Buycks (Bay View)

(I'm not including walk-ons, only schollie players)

I also believe MU has no Milwaukee players between Jackson and Buycks.  Not sure about 1977 to 1994.  Please correct this list if you see any errors.

Other than transfer Jackson and Juco Buycks, it has been almost 20 years since MU recruited a Milwaukee kid out of high school (Key and Pogodzinski)

[MUMac]

Related to this ... Does anyone else think it is an "issue" that MU gets very few Milwaukee kids?  We all carry on about recruiting Wisconsin or Chicago but never Milwaukee.

I started a thread about it this spring

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26073.msg291094;topicseen#msg291094


1977 - Gary Rosenberger (MU High)
Bill Neary was from Wauwatosa but went to MU high
Jim Dudley was from South Milwaukee and sent to Prairie in Racine

1994 - Damon Key (MU High)
John Pogodzinski went to Pius XI but was from West Ellis

2003 - Robert Jackson (Washington HS)

2011 - Dwight Buycks (Bay View)

(I'm not including walk-ons, only schollie players)

I also believe MU has no Milwaukee players between Jackson and Buycks.  Not sure about 1977 to 1994.


Coincidence or a sign of what MU needs to be successful in the Tourney?

Off the top of my head, you can add Terry Sanders, Scott Merrit, Jon Mueller and Keith Stewart (though the latter is debatable).

Are you talking city of Milwaukee?  Otherwise, Novak is from Brown Deer.  The city schools have had trouble getting kids to qualify.  That has been a problem.

[MerrittsMustache]

Related to this ... Does anyone else think it is an "issue" that MU gets very few Milwaukee kids?  We all carry on about recruiting Wisconsin or Chicago but never Milwaukee.

I started a thread about it this spring

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=26073.msg291094;topicseen#msg291094


1977 - Gary Rosenberger (MU High)
Bill Neary was from Wauwatosa but went to MU high
Jim Dudley was from South Milwaukee and sent to Prairie in Racine

1994 - Damon Key (MU High)
John Pogodzinski went to Pius XI but was from West Ellis

2003 - Robert Jackson (Washington HS)

2011 - Dwight Buycks (Bay View)

(I'm not including walk-ons, only schollie players)

I also believe MU has no Milwaukee players between Jackson and Buycks.  Not sure about 1977 to 1994.  Please correct this list if you see any errors.

Other than transfer Jackson and Juco Buycks, it has been almost 20 years since MU recruited a Milwaukee kid out of high school (Key and Pogodzinski)

I think it's worth asking if there are a lot of Milwaukee kids going elsewhere and achieving relatively high levels of success. If there were Milwaukee kids going on to highly successful college (and NBA careers) then I think it would be a big deal. I don't think that's the case so I don't think it's an issue.

[Tugg Speedman]

Off the top of my head, you can add Terry Sanders, Scott Merrit, Jon Mueller and Keith Stewart (though the latter is debatable).

Are you talking city of Milwaukee?  Otherwise, Novak is from Brown Deer.  The city schools have had trouble getting kids to qualify.  That has been a problem.

No I'm talking about the city of Milwaukee kids, not the suburbs.  To your list ....

These two were "suburb kids"
Scott Merritt was from 'tosa and went to 'tosa east
John Mueller is from Cedarburg (but did go to MU high)

These two were "Milwaukee kids"
Keith Stewart is from Milwaukee (via King & Messmer)
Terry Sanders is from Milwaukee (via Vincent & Hargrave Academy)

[TVDirector]

seen Diamond play a bunch of times--  my kid is a jr Raider as well, but a few years younger and 5 feet shorter!

nice kid-  has a good demeanor...  treats teammates and opponents very well.
dwarfs all around him.
broke some bones (wrist?) early in the hoops season and didn't come back til way late.
doesn't dog it, but he hasn't caught up to his body yet (conditioning-wise) and labors a bit up and down the floor, but just a bit.

has a decent f/t stroke.
strong at the glass, but it could be a matter of him being so much taller.
played a great in/out game in the contests I saw him play.

missed a dunk and coach pulled him...  after some bench instruction, came back and played even better.

funny to see parents from other schools wanting to card the lad!

btw:  that tosa team had another couple of kids that were outstanding.
one, who's brother played varsity, was outstanding and will be worth it to watch.
name escapes me, but I'll post it when my synapsis start firing again.

[Tugg Speedman]

I think it's worth asking if there are a lot of Milwaukee kids going elsewhere and achieving relatively high levels of success. If there were Milwaukee kids going on to highly successful college (and NBA careers) then I think it would be a big deal. I don't think that's the case so I don't think it's an issue.

Milwaukee kids that played in the NBA and did not go to MU ..

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI
Freddy Brown
Rodney Buford
Patrick Eddie
Devin Harris
John Johnson
Mark Jones
Carl Laundry
Marcus Landry
Richard Miller
Kurt Nimphius
Terry Porter
Latrell Sprewell
Mike Taylor
Mike Wilks

Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999    Marshall Williams
1998 Jose Winston
1991    Calvin Rayford
1989    Chris Jones

[oldwarrior81]

wasn't Dean Marquardt a Milwaukee guy?
He played ball at Washington

[Tugg Speedman]

wasn't Dean Marquardt a Milwaukee guy?
He played ball at Washington

Yes, another Milwaukee kid

[avid1010]

Without doing any research, wasn't Devin Harris a Tosa kid?

Milwaukee kids that played in the NBA and did not go to MU ..

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI
Freddy Brown
Rodney Buford
Patrick Eddie
Devin Harris
John Johnson
Mark Jones
Carl Laundry
Marcus Landry
Richard Miller
Kurt Nimphius
Terry Porter
Latrell Sprewell
Mike Taylor
Mike Wilks

Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999    Marshall Williams
1998 Jose Winston
1991    Calvin Rayford
1989    Chris Jones

[Tugg Speedman]

Without doing any research, wasn't Devin Harris a Tosa kid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_Harris

From his wiki:

Harris was born and raised in Milwaukee, Wisconsin; the son of Terry and Julie Harris. Throughout high school, Harris was a superior athlete and took up basketball and volleyball at Wauwatosa East High School

I'll let finer minds decide if he is a "Milwaukee kid"

[GGGG]

Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999    Marshall Williams

Well, to be real anal, Williams did transfer to MU from NCSU, but I don't think he ever played here.

[MerrittsMustache]

Milwaukee kids that played in the NBA and did not go to MU ..

http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/high_schools.cgi?state=WI
Freddy Brown
Rodney Buford
Patrick Eddie
Devin Harris
John Johnson
Mark Jones
Carl Laundry
Marcus Landry
Richard Miller
Kurt Nimphius
Terry Porter
Latrell Sprewell
Mike Taylor
Mike Wilks

Wisconsin Mr. Basketball from Milwaukee and did not go to MU
2008 DeMarcus Phillips
2002 Greg Brown
1999    Marshall Williams
1998 Jose Winston
1991    Calvin Rayford
1989    Chris Jones

Thanks for the info, 84. That's a solid, but unspectacular group. Definitely some guys on there who could have helped MU.

I guess I was thinking more about the last 10 years or so. If we go back to college class of 2000, we're left with just Taylor, Wilks and the Landry brothers. That's only 4 guys and I'm pretty sure Taylor didn't qualify and Carl Landry really wasn't on anyone's radar. Wilks would have been a nice heir apparent to Hutchins but, although a year apart, I don't think he would have been a huge upgrade over Cordell Henry (who was a more highly-touted HS player). Marcus Landry would have made a nice fourth "amigo" but other than that, I don't think MU really missed out on much in terms of Milwaukee kids.

EDIT: Rodney Buford was college class of 1999. He definitely would have been a big upgrade over Bargen, Lovette or Polonowski.

[Tulsa Warrior]

Marshall Williams blew out a knee at NCSU and never was the same.  The rehab seemed to be left up to him.  He commited to Marquette but never signed any papers.  After that he did a redshirt transfer years at Green Bay but when they had a coaching changes he didn't like Kowalczyk's early morning practices and ended up going to Georgetown of Kentucky, a D2 or D3 program.  He did OK there.

[GGGG]

Carl Landry also did not qualify.  I believe he went to JUCO at Vincenness University before ending up at Purdue.  We were in on Devin Harris, but we got Deiner instead.  We were in on Marcus Landry, but we got Wes intead.  Both would out for us...and for UW.

[BrewCity83]

You guys are forgetting Pat Foley, late '80's from Marquette High.

[bilsu]

You would have consider if we were even interested in them and who we recruited instead. I believe there have been a couple of Milwaukee kids that went (Larry House?) to Creighton and did very well there.

[MerrittsMustache]

You would have consider if we were even interested in them and who we recruited instead. I believe there have been a couple of Milwaukee kids that went (Larry House?) to Creighton and did very well there.

Buford also went to Creighton and I believe he is the school's all-time leading scorer.

[MuMark]

Crean recruited Carl Landry out of Juco.

He wanted to come but the admin said no because we already had 1 juco on the team(Marcus Jackson) and they wanted to see how that worked out before accepting another. 

[77ncaachamps]

I cannot recall the talent in Milwaukee/Wisconsin being THIS good in recent years.

I'd like to attribute the rise in talent to Marquette and Wisconsin's success in MBB, but I'm sure the better coaching and organizing that's happening at the AAU level has a lot to do with it.

Off Topic: Someone mentioned Majestic Mapp. http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-05-07/sports/29538172_1_majestic-mapp-virginia-parkchester