[Cracked Sidewalks] Top 50 wish list for last roster spot - the other 48 in order after Murray and Henry

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Top 50 wish list for last roster spot - the other 48 in order after Murray and Henry

Written by: jpudner@concentricgrasstops.com (bamamarquettefan1)

I hadn’t planned to post a follow-up piece this weekend, but due to some of the great responses to my breakdown this morning (see below), I was able to get about 80 available high school players, JUCOS and transfers who might help Marquette on a spreadsheet and evaluate.  From there, I ranked my top 50 wish list in order.

Thank you especially Dr. Blackheart for the transfer and JUCO All-American list, and brewcity for going through the JUCOs to pull up info, some of which I have listed almost verbatim below as my reasons for wanting the player.

Finally, let me say that there is no one on this list except Murray I would have rather had than Juan Anderson and Jamil Wilson, and having Todd Mayo and Derrick Wilson make the Top 10 list in New England and David Singleton give up a scholarship to come here already makes this a great class no matter what we do with this last spot.  Whether we add a freshman or JUCO for next year or get a transfer that will come in with 4-star Jamal Ferguson in 2012, the future is bright.  Also, please comment if I am including anyone who is already committed or that you know there are reasons there is no chance of getting him here.

1. Aaric Murray 6-10 La Salle force underneath could mean a deep run in 2013 and 2014
2. Jarion Henry 6-8 Texas prep would join Juan Anderson to give us two big 4-stars for four years to come
3. Pierre Jackson 5-10 PGs domination of junior college tournament like Crowder last year could give another dynamic point guard
4. Juwan Staten 6-0 freshman point guard for Dayton stepped in to be 10th best assist guy in country as a freshman - would love him here for Junior's senior year and then two years after Junior left
5. Keith Coleman 6-9 tough prep from Maine could be a late catch like Davante last year
6. Garrick Sherman, 6-10 Michigan State sophomore transfer didn't play a lot but decent shot blocker who hit 48 of 69 shots - would like him still being around one year after Otule
7. Philip Jurick 6-11 JUCO blocking 8 shots a game and ranked as 8th best JUCO would join Otule to make MU one of shot-blocking teams in country
8. Gods Gift Achiuwa 6-9 dominant player (23 ppg, 11 rpg) but at 6-9 and playing against weak competition just can't put him at the top of the list
9. Yvan Ngirabakunzi 6-10 three-star prep out of Mississippi could let Gardner play the 4
10. Amath M’Baye, 6-9 Wyoming sophomore who played over 32 minutes a game despite blocking a lot of shots and grabbing rebounds

11. Anton Grady 6-8 three star prep out of Cleveland hopefully got to see our Sweet 16 run!
12. Aaron Harwell, 5-10 PG for Centenary - I know they were 1-29 but this guy had great assist numbers for a terrible team and was the 15th best steals guy in the country and could play immediately (due to Centenary downgrading) and give us three years - Reggie Smith's replacement?
13. Tavares Speaks 6-4 JUCO 1st team All-American from Raleigh who can score at will - he is worth trying for just because he sounds like DJO with a little more height!
14. Gene Teague, 6-9 sophomore for Southern Illinois who could give us a lot of rebounds and some scoring Otule's senior year and the year after (hit 60 of 99 shots)
15. Hooper Vint 6-10 Arkansas prep at 190 pounds does make me nervous, but with progress of Otule and Gardner he can develop as a backup
16. Marsell Holden 5-11 JUCO 1st team All-American could take over scoring from the point as a change of pace from Junior Cadougan
17. Michael Hale 5-9 JUCO only pure point guard on 2nd team All-American squad who can score and assist - small but could be a really good Mo Acker type
18. A.J. English 6-3 three-star Delaware prep would certainly round class nicely - but with our current depth I'd just rather gamble on a center like Vint
19. Lonnie Hayes 6-foot JUCO 1st team All-American who could be impact player, but with some turnovers
20. Jeff Early 6-3 JUCO 1st team who is tough enough to play in the Bronx but focused enough to plan on Liberty before this breakout year - I'm intrigued at a combo guard like this if he can really play the point

21. Tony Kimbro 6-6 three-star guard from Louisville will have potential, though in the "switchable" category where we are stocked
22. Desmar Jackson, 6-5 Wyoming sophomore guard is actually Wyoming's best player, just think their center M'Baye fills a bigger need for MU
23. Larry McGaughey 6-5 JUCO 1st team All-American guard could be a poor man's Wesley Matthews - doesn't fill PG or C need, but still a "best available" potential option
24. Tyquan Goodlett 6-3 three-star from St. Anthony's in NJ are good credentials - hope he didn't go to the UNC game
25. Hanif Nixon-Hughes 6-4 JUCO Honorable Mention ran the point for a pretty good team as a freshman, so might consider grabbing him for 3 years
26. Jordan Latham 6-8 Xavier freshman was a 3-star who didn't break the rotation, but if Buzz believes he would be good with a change of scenary, I wouldn't mind a 6-8 guy with a year of practice against a major program
27. Tyler Brown 6-4 two-time JUCO All-American would be great - but as a 6-4 switchable doesn't fill the PG or big man need
28. Jeremy Jones 6-2 JUCO was 3rd team All-American and several high majors seem to like him - just don't know if he is a point
29. Colton Iverson, 6-10 Minnesota Junior - would love his shotblocking but sitting out one year to only play during Otule's senior year lowers his value to MU
30. Reco Lewis 6-2 JUCO HM who can dish and steal to give us an option at point, but also rebound and score - only fear is his team was TERRIBLE and you would hope a point could raise the game

31. Charles Ashford 6-1 JUCO point guard could be the top assist man available to backup Junior, but as only an Honorable Mention All-American on a weak team a few more questions
32. Cheikh Mbodji 6-9 JUCO power forward has major college interest, but as an honorable mention for a terrible team there are some questions
33. Dylan Talley 6-5 JUCO guard probably more of a fit for LSU - Honorable Mention All-American
34. Roger Franklin, 6-5 Oklahoma State sophomore hasn't played much in two years, but if we still see his 4-star potential from when he looked at MU originally not a bad pickup
35. Orlando Sanchez 6-8 JUCO HM led nation in blocked shots, but his team was terrible so think just a solid sub for Otule-Gardner
36. Quinton Pippen 6-4 JUCO Honorable Mention - now that we have Mayo's brother can't say I'd mind getting a shot at Scottie Pippen's nephew
37. Gary Cooper 6-8 prep from Michigan - wouldn't mind one more option inside
38. Charles Bennett 5-10 prep point guard from Houston would be an "extra" point guard against the press I imagine.
39. Jayson Guerrier 6-4 JUCO Honorable Mention who can help bring the ball up against press - and plays a couple of miles from my house in Alabama
40. Milos Kleut, 6-10 Lipscomb sophomore didn't play much, but did hit 15 of 26 shots so might be a good backup for Otule for when he got in foul trouble senior year and then give us one big man for the next year

41. Quevyn Winters 6-5 two-star prep out of Florida
42. Taylor Smith 6-6 JUCO 3rd team All-American but as a 6-6 shot-blocker probably more valuable to another team
43. Alex Carmen 6-3 prep from California - nice if Juan helps us establish that pipeline
44. Corbin Thomas 6-6 JUCO 3rd team but a switchable
45. Corey Wilford 6-1 JUCO 2nd team, but more of a scorer so may not fill the point
46. D'Andre Martin 6-2 prep from Louisianna
47. Martyre Demarco 6-2 prep from Arizona
48. Tavian Pomlee 6-5 prep from Iowa
49. Derrell Armstrong 6-1 JUCO HM who can run the point and dish, but lot of turnovers playing for a very poor team.
50. Diyaaldin Kelley, 6-11 great shot blocking junior for Maryland Eastern Shore but would purely be a one year back-up for Otule senior year

http://www.crackedsidewalks.com/2011/04/top-50-wish-list-for-last-roster-spot.html

[GGGG]

Juwan Staten sounds interesting.  He lead the A10 in assists as a freshman and basically went to Dayton because it is his hometown school.  He struggled a bit from the outside, but it looks as though he felt that he was "too big" for the program and wants to develop his talents elsewhere.

[bamamarquettefan]

Agreed - I was just shocked at how good his numbers are.  To play 70% of the minutes as a freshman, and be the only freshman besides UNC's Kendall Marshall to break the top 10 in assist rate (www.kenpom.com) is amazing.  I would love three years of that at MU, particularly the two years after Junior graduates:

Rank   Player   Team   Ht   Wt   Yr   ARate
1   Malcolm Griffin   Toledo   6-4   205   So   46.4
2   D.J. Cooper   Ohio   5-11   165   So   44.7
3   Darius Morris   Michigan   6-4   180   So   44.2
4   Aaron Johnson   UAB   5-8   185   Sr   43.0
5   Hank Thorns   Texas Christian   5-9   160   Jr   41.4
6   Darrell Lampley   Eastern Michigan   5-10   170   Jr   40.8
7   Kendall Marshall   North Carolina   6-3   186   Fr   40.7
8   Chris De La Rosa   MD Baltimore County   5-10   170   Jr   40.3
9   Bryce Cartwright   Iowa   6-1   180   Jr   39.8
10   Juwan Staten   Dayton   6-0   189   Fr   39.8

[BCHoopster]

It is unbelievable the passion of some of the recruit niks on this board.  Very interesting, but
maybe you should just find out the log of where Buzz was last week, or this week coming up,
that will tell you which recruit he really wants.  MU it seems right now, keeps it very
quiet, much like Tiger Woods relationships now, how is it that Aaron Rodgers has cameras on
him anytime he is with a hot chick and Tiger nothing, how is that possible?

[Jay Bee]

It is unbelievable the passion of some of the recruit niks on this board.  Very interesting, but
maybe you should just find out the log of where Buzz was last week, or this week coming up,
that will tell you which recruit he really wants.  MU it seems right now, keeps it very
quiet, much like Tiger Woods relationships now, how is it that Aaron Rodgers has cameras on
him anytime he is with a hot chick and Tiger nothing, how is that possible?

Marquette was in Arizona on Friday to watch Richard Peters (Dick Peters?).  Probably 2012 big man, maybe a 2011.  Canadian kid originally from Trinidad that opened things up after Capel was shown the door at Oklahoma.

[BCHoopster]

Jay Bee, now that is good info, and a name not even mentioned, maybe it was but
I do not know where.  Thanks, where is he this week?

[reinko]

Jay Bee, now that is good info, and a name not even mentioned, maybe it was but
I do not know where.  Thanks, where is he this week?

Oh you didn't hear?  MU's staff had a big bag of money for this recruit because, you know, how else would they be able to recruit a big man, especially in Arizona.  It's just common knowledge.

[marquette99]

Great info - only potential 2011s were mentioned who would use our last available to this year (thus nader also left of the list)

Yes, I live in alabama where they post every auburn and alabama flight during coach searches as well as recruiting so I know what you mean!

[GGGG]

Peters is a 2012 big man.  Not 2011.

[nycwarrior]

I have spent 10 days, 22 hours and 59 minutes of my life logged into this message board and there are a few of you who make it worth while.

Thanks mods, Bama, dr blackheart, brewcity and to the CS crew. These posts are a good example of people adding serious content that lets me geek out to my heart's content.

It's really amazing how much easier it is to creepily stalk Marquette basketball from afar than it was just a few years ago.

As for the last Warrior, I'd sign another big as we're only one injury to Chris or Davante away from being without a big all over again.

[Jay Bee]

Peters is a 2012 big man.  Not 2011.

No.  It's up in the air, broheim.  He was to take the SAT for the first time on Saturday.  If he scores well, he may be a 2011. 

[marquette99]

Thx nycwarrior - at least mu joined a new york conference so they travel your way more than in years past!

[mundelein jerry]

Any possibility of Cully Payne, who was just released from scholarship at Iowa? Medical Red Shirt last year after 5 games as a freshman PG. Played HS in Schaumburg IL. Good ball handler & outside shot.

[Jay Bee]

Any possibility of Cully Payne, who was just released from scholarship at Iowa? Medical Red Shirt last year after 5 games as a freshman PG. Played HS in Schaumburg IL. Good ball handler & outside shot.

No such thing as a medical redshirt, but also now that he's transferring he's only got 2 years to compete on his five-year clock so a medical hardship waiver does nothing for him or his new school.  He'll have 2012-13 and 2013-14 wherever he goes and that's it, in all likelihood.

He's also a jagoff dork crybaby (and he's from Schuamburg).  No way.  (And he wasn't 'released from scholarship'.)

[brewcity77]

Thanks, nycwarrior. Glad to know that the extra effort is appreciated.

[brewcity77]

nm

[ChicosBailBonds]

No such thing as a medical redshirt, but also now that he's transferring he's only got 2 years to compete on his five-year clock so a medical hardship waiver does nothing for him or his new school.  He'll have 2012-13 and 2013-14 wherever he goes and that's it, in all likelihood.

He's also a jagoff dork crybaby (and he's from Schuamburg).  No way.  (And he wasn't 'released from scholarship'.)

Are you saying there is no such thing because the term is technically not "Medical Redshirt"?  Or are you saying that in principle a player cannot receive an additional year via a medical hardship waiver?  Trying to understand what you are saying as "no such thing".

Thanks

[Dawson Rental]

Philip Jurick would be my #2 after Murray.  Keith Coleman?  I'm not impressed.  Eligibility issues, offensive woes.  I hate being a four man team on offense.

After number 10, bank it for one of next year's big men.  We've got Ferguson verballed, so we need to bank a schollie to get two bigs next year, and Buzz is in on several for 2012.

[Jay Bee]

Are you saying there is no such thing because the term is technically not "Medical Redshirt"?  Or are you saying that in principle a player cannot receive an additional year via a medical hardship waiver?  Trying to understand what you are saying as "no such thing".

When I say 'no such thing', I mean there is no such thing as a 'medical redshirt'. 

Your second question is not detailed enough to answer.  In Payne's case, a hardship waiver would likely be irrelevant due to his 5-year clock on eligibility.  Besides, I’m not sure he could have gotten a hardship waiver anyway – I liked McCaffery’s comment about him being ‘fully healed’ when Payne’s departure was announced. 

A redshirt simply means you didn’t play.

A hardship waiver deals with years of competition (i.e., with the a hardship waiver, it’s possible for a student-athlete to compete for more than 4 years).

A hardship waiver does not address the 5-year rule.  That is separate and generally limited to circumstances outside of a student-athlete’s and institution’s ability to control.  In Payne’s case, this was year two on his clock.  He has three more years on his clock.  If he stayed at Iowa and received a hardship waiver, he could have been eligible to play this coming season and two years after that as well. 

However, since he is transferring he will be required to sit out the 2011-12 season, the third on his clock.  He will have only two more years on his clock and even if due to a hardship waiver he’s only exhausted one year of competition, he’s only got two years to use up the three years of competition.  This is a result of him choosing to transfer and therefore I believe a waiver of the 5-Year Rule would be unlikely. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

OK, just wanted to make sure this wasn't semantics or something else.  The term "medical redshirt" has been used often over the years, though technically it doesn't exist.  You are correct.  You are also correct that a student athlete can play more than 4 years...some have played 6 years dependent upon what the NCAA has done in terms of determining eligibility for those requesting an additional year.

[94Warrior]

Less than one week ago there was a 6 page thread (or more, I lost count) on the non-existence of a medical redshirt.  If you want to debate it, please refer back to that thread.  And, if some of you still don't get it, you probably never will.

This is an outstanding thread ON RECRUITING with great potential, try not to derail it.

As for recruiting,  in 2011-2012 we have more need at the 4-5 position than we do at point guard.  
At the point we have Cadougan, Singleton and D. Wilson and possibly Blue and J. Wilson.  
At the 4-5 we have just Otule, Gardener, Williams and Crowder to man 2 spots.  Whomever said we are one injury away from big trouble in the post is exactly right.  

That said, I would like to see:
Murray, Achiuwa or Coleman.  I don't know enough about Jurick or any of the other bigs to have an opinion on them.
  

[TedBaxter]

JUCO big men God's Gift Achiuwa and Cheikh Mbodji both visited Cincinnati last weekend.

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/uc/2011/04/06/big-recruiting-weekend-for-uc/

[DanceHallPlayer]

No. 11 Anton Grady is an intriguing player, but he signed an LOI with Cleveland State last fall and I haven't heard anything about him wanting out of it.

[crowderrules]

No. 11 Anton Grady is an intriguing player, but he signed an LOI with Cleveland State last fall and I haven't heard anything about him wanting out of it.

So #3 Jackson and #11 Grady are the only two on the list anyone has noticed that have signed?

Watching the video tonight I'm ready for next year.  Great few days with Butler doing so well in Portsmouth and remembering the four seniors that are passing the baton to Mayo (WELCOME) and the rest of the newcomers including whoever we get for this last spot.  Hope Murray has a great visit next week.