MU left out of Katz top 25

[Marquette84]

I'm sorry Chicos - I didn't want to get you upset with my lameness.  You know what's lame - is someone who cannot admit when they are wrong, or see two sides of an issue - which is what you and 84 both have in common.  I asked 84 to at least acknowledge that he made his prediction predicated on last year's team having Maymon, Cadougan and Otule.  He couldn't/wouldn't acknowledge. 

Otule:  You won't find any evidence that I based my predictions based on any real contribution from Otule. So what if he was injured?  This no more mattered to me than losing Roseboro.  I expected nothing out of him, and thats exactly what we got. 

Cadougan:  You're wrong--I absolutely knew he was out for the year, and it didn't change my opinion on the team. I clearly said we'd be just fine with Acker. In the thread titled "Cadougan likely out for the year" here's what I said:

We lost the games, but give Acker a fair shake--he played decently, and put up a 2-1 assist to TO ratio against the six toughest opponents of the season. With the possible exception of Villanova, its unlikely we face anyone as tough as any of those five teams this season. 

If Acker can match what he showed down the stretch, we'll be fine when the opposition isn't the elite eight.   

So we'll see if you can take your own medicine--you claim I don't admit when I'm wrong--In this case you accused me of basing my prediction on expectations that Cadougan to be available--and you are clearly wrong. 

Maymon:  Here's where you might get partial credit.  I did say Maymon would be better than Grimm, Amo, and Barro combined in 2006.  Of course, that was setting a pretty low bar--which was kind of the point of using "combined."  But you're correct--I did not predict he would leave 1/3 through the season.   

Of course, I think you're overplaying the loss of Maymon--I never thought he would be one of the team's leaders.  If you read what I had based my predictions on, you would have to admit that I clearly put more faith in Hayward and Butler and our two 1st Team Juco AAs than anyone around here did.

Of course, what you don't admit in your attempt at "gotcha" is that DJO, Butler and Cubillan were all better than I expected--Cubillan significantly so. Also, I didn't expect Acker to be a better 3 point shooter than Steve Novak was his senior year--and certainly didn't expect he and DJO to lead the Big East.   

So if you were fair about this, you'd admit that the loss of Maymon is a wash with the stronger than expected efforts from DJO, Butler, Acker and Cubillan. 

[MedicineHatSpanker]

Just give it time and 84 will tell us we should be a Top 15 team, and anything less than that would be under-achieving. 

84 is Joanie's nom de plume. Bolstering the sagging image of her man, even if it means attacking a loyal assistant, is de rigeur for the Baroness of Bloomington. Don't forget, her brothers are big time football coaches.