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mr.MUskie

Quote from: KCMarq09 on January 31, 2010, 10:16:51 PM
+1000.....all this thread is doing is bringing me down again to remembering how excited I was about having a 7-foot former Hockey and Lacrosse player on the team.  Eventually MU will get some breaks with some big men.....eventually.

With a guy that tall, you'd have to assume the medical issue is heart related and I can't think of anything worse than having the same thing that happened to Gaines Adams and the Southern Indiana basketball player that died already just this year.


On the other hand, the Chicago Bulls had a 7 footer named Eddy Curry.  He had a heart condition and the Bulls refused to play him.  Several years later, he's still playing for the New York Knicks (although he just had knee surgery.)

Dr. Blackheart

So, since rumors abound...how about this:  Otule missed 10 games last year with a broken foot...and has missed 18 already with a similar break on the other foot Nov. 23.  We are getting killed in the paint, we have no quality depth on the frontline, Yous is hurt and Maymon took a flyer.  Redshirt or return for the BE run?  

I say keep the redshirt.

Boone

Are you saying Otule could be cleared to play?

Jam Chowder

I hope he's not cleared... I think it would be a waste... just hang on to the year of eligibility and help in the years to come. That is, unless he's itching to play. It's his life.

Aughnanure

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Quote from: mr.MUskie on January 31, 2010, 10:27:07 PM

On the other hand, the Chicago Bulls had a 7 footer named Eddy Curry.  He had a heart condition and the Bulls refused to play him.  Several years later, he's still playing for the New York Knicks (although he just had knee surgery.)

Really? Did not know that. Thanks for the info, would love for something similar to Happen with Liam. When I was still at MU, a year ago, after the Liam news broke I do remember people telling me they saw him work out at the Rec center as though he was allowed to get his heart rate high.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

Boone

According to Mark Miller, we can put that rumor to bed.

mr.MUskie

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Quote from: KCMarq09 on January 31, 2010, 11:08:31 PM
Really? Did not know that. Thanks for the info, would love for something similar to Happen with Liam. When I was still at MU, a year ago, after the Liam news broke I do remember people telling me they saw him work out at the Rec center as though he was allowed to get his heart rate high.

The 22-year-old Curry led the team in scoring before being hospitalized with an irregular heartbeat. This caused him to miss the last 13 games of the regular season and the entire playoffs. On June 24, 2005, heart specialists cleared Curry to resume practice. On October 3, 2005, after refusing on privacy grounds to submit to a DNA test, as requested by Bulls management, to assess whether he has a congenital heart condition, Curry was traded to the New York Knicks.
Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test. During the team's media day, Bulls General Manager John Paxson said he understood the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls did not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died. Paxson told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next fifty years if he failed the genetic test.
The test that Eddy Curry was required to take is called Predictive DNA Testing. It has an approximately 10% efficiency at detecting DNA irregularities which may signal the chance of a person developing a specific condition. The practice is illegal in 40 states. Such testing does not reveal the presence of a condition but rather seeks out irregularities which can be used to determine if a person may be susceptible to developing a specific condition. It is far from an established science and has also been known to produce as many false positives as true positives.
From the standpoint of an NBA player, if the test produced a false positive which you would be unable to determine until decades down the road when you would know whether or not the person actually did or did not develop the disease, you may have just ended the career of a pro player based entirely on a test that has a 10% efficiency.
In the end, even the very doctor that suggested the DNA test cleared Eddy Curry to resume playing, merely suggesting Curry take the test; he never actually demanded it. It has been suggested that the episodes he suffered could have been the result of a poor diet Curry was following in an effort to lose weight, as stipulated by the Bulls in order to obtain a new — and larger — contract. There is speculation Curry may have used ephedra to enhance his weight loss, which could potentially have compounded the situation.

Benny B

Quote from: KCMarq09 on January 31, 2010, 10:16:51 PM
+1000.....all this thread is doing is bringing me down again to remembering how excited I was about having a 7-foot former Hockey and Lacrosse player on the team.  Eventually MU will get some breaks with some big men.....eventually.

With a guy that tall, you'd have to assume the medical issue is heart related and I can't think of anything worse than having the same thing that happened to Gaines Adams and the Southern Indiana basketball player that died already just this year.

As a former hockey player, I echo the sentiment of excitement from last year and the thoughts of what could have been.  If you're going to have three projects at the 5, I would take the hockey player every time.

There's been a lot of speculation about Liam, and the general consensus is that it's a heart condition, but I don't know that we (the general public) know exactly what the diagnosis and prognosis was/is, or at least it has never been officially announced (nor will it, nor should it).  So unfortunately, that being the case, the human brain naturally attempts to fill the gaps with anything that seems logical and therefore, this speculation will never be put to rest until Liam graduates or we recruit a five-star 5.
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

T-Bone

Has he been on the bench (wearing a suit) with the team since the BE season has started?  There's a guy that looks a lot like him, but seems somewhat shorter on the bench.  I would think that he'd still be with the team, as a manager, if he had wanted to. 
I'm like a turtle, sometimes I get run over by a semi.

bma725

Quote from: T-Bone on February 01, 2010, 10:17:17 AM
Has he been on the bench (wearing a suit) with the team since the BE season has started?  There's a guy that looks a lot like him, but seems somewhat shorter on the bench.  I would think that he'd still be with the team, as a manager, if he had wanted to. 


That's Asrangue Souleymane, not Liam. 

He played for Buzz and Monarch at UNO, played for Monarch at Panola JC, was supposed to player for Layer at CSU.  He's been around helping the team since the beginning of the year.

Jam Chowder

BMA... any way you could kill all these rumors about Liam for us once and for all? I'm assuming I'm right when I say there's no chance of this ever happening?

bma725


Jam Chowder


muhoops1

QuoteHe's not coming back

ever?

Aughnanure

“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

StillAWarrior

Quote from: KCMarq09 on February 01, 2010, 03:15:14 PM
forever ever?

I heard a rumor that the odds of Liam coming back to the team are one out of a million.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

Aughnanure

Quote from: StillAWarrior on February 01, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
I heard a rumor that the odds of Liam coming back to the team are one out of a million.

Cue Dumb & Dumber quote
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

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