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Quote from: The Lens on July 02, 2009, 10:32:56 PM
KO was on Homer today... Homer said:  "you have no players" 

KO replied:  "No we have really good players"  "We only need a PG"

Unlike TC at IU, KO has talked about winning from Day 1 and not making excuses.

And Homer was great to point out that in the past 25+ years MU has been to two Sweet 16s...one was Kevin's.

And while TC leaves Buzz in year two with Lazar, Cubby, Fulce and Otoule, KO in year 2 left Deane with:

Eford, McCaskill, Pieper, Crawford, Hutchins, Fai & more.  2 NBAers plus 3 really good college players.  Too bad TC couldn't leave MU in as good of shape as KO left it. 

Glad you liked the interview.

Good to hear you still like KO and dislike TC.

ChicosBailBonds

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Quote from: The Lens on July 02, 2009, 10:32:56 PM
KO was on Homer today... Homer said:  "you have no players"  

KO replied:  "No we have really good players"  "We only need a PG"

Unlike TC at IU, KO has talked about winning from Day 1 and not making excuses.

And Homer was great to point out that in the past 25+ years MU has been to two Sweet 16s...one was Kevin's.

And while TC leaves Buzz in year two with Lazar, Cubby, Fulce and Otoule, KO in year 2 left Deane with:

Eford, McCaskill, Pieper, Crawford, Hutchins, Fai & more.  2 NBAers plus 3 really good college players.  Too bad TC couldn't leave MU in as good of shape as KO left it.  

And unlike TC, he hasn't won like TC did, nor did he do all the other things off the court that were embarrassing as hell for a Catholic university.

And TC actually left Buzz the man who was the starting PG for Kansas and another player that started for Indiana, those two chose not to play for Buzz.  You'll have to ask them why they chose not to play for Buzz because they were committed to the university.

Now, here's what TC also left Buzz.  Highest attendance in MU history, a fan base that has been resurrected, the ability to recruit players to play in the Big East, a new practice facility.   And if I recall correctly, he left Buzz with the number one scorer in MU history, the #3 scorer in MU history, potentially another top 5 scorer in MU history (Lazar) and some schlep named Wes Matthews.   ::)   TC clearly left Buzz nothing


Oh, and one more thing....I think TC hired Buzz....something so many forget.  Yes, TC clearly left Buzz nothing except for the opportunity of a lifetime and baseline to work with that is the best in MU history sans one other time, 1977 when Hank took over....let's hope Buzz doesn't do what Hank did.

ChicosBailBonds

Best quote here in Los Angeles on sports radio:  "if you find one person in this city that likes Kevin O'Neill or thinks he is a quality human being, you've met a liar"

The Lens

Speaking of Ty & Nick...I've  spoken with players from KOs team who said some insisted on following him & KO made it very clear; no MU players would leave, no recruits would follow. 

If only St. Tom did the same with Tyshawn.

What's worse adultery or treating every human being you come in contact with like a piece of sh!t?  Getting drunk & hitting on coeds or publicly disgracing George Thompson?   
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Blackhat

What a huge waste of time this thread is.

You've got to be either elderly or of not sound mind to keep posting ad nauseam week after week about essentially the same topics usually surrounding TC.

I'm kind of starting to feel bad for the frequent culprits.

GGGG

Quote from: The Lens on July 02, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
Speaking of Ty & Nick...I've  spoken with players from KOs team who said some insisted on following him & KO made it very clear; no MU players would leave, no recruits would follow. 

If only St. Tom did the same with Tyshawn.


So are you seriously suggesting that if only TC would have insisted that no recruits should leave, that Tyshawn wouldn't have gone to KU?

Get a grip.

StillAWarrior

Quote from: The Lens on July 02, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
Speaking of Ty & Nick...I've  spoken with players from KOs team who said some insisted on following him & KO made it very clear; no MU players would leave, no recruits would follow. 

If only St. Tom did the same with Tyshawn.

Crean couldn't have stopped Tyshawn from leaving if he would have wanted to.  Couldn't have stopped any of them from leaving.  Marquette could have refused to release the recruits, but Crean couldn't have stopped them.  The only thing he could have done -- and it would have been the classy thing to do -- is refuse to take Nick Williams at Indiana.  By the way, the fact that players wanted to be here when Crean was here, but wanted to leave after he left flies in the face of the argument that he treats everyone like sh*t.  Amazing how many people seem to like a guy that treats everyone badly.  I know, I know, they're all rubes, but you have the insight to see the real Tom Crean.


Quote from: The Lens on July 02, 2009, 11:04:03 PMWhat's worse adultery or treating every human being you come in contact with like a piece of sh!t?  Getting drunk & hitting on coeds or publicly disgracing George Thompson?   

Are these trick questions?   Even assuming Crean did these things (and I think there's plenty of room to debate that) the fact that you've asked the questions makes me think we're going to disagree on the answers.
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Quote from: The Lens on July 02, 2009, 11:04:03 PM
Speaking of Ty & Nick...I've  spoken with players from KOs team who said some insisted on following him & KO made it very clear; no MU players would leave, no recruits would follow. 

If only St. Tom did the same with Tyshawn.

What's worse adultery or treating every human being you come in contact with like a piece of sh!t?  Getting drunk & hitting on coeds or publicly disgracing George Thompson?   

This is foolish. Completely different time periods you are comparing. The patience of a player to "stay with it" is much thinner these days then possibly ever before. Claiming that TC is at fault for this new mindset being shown with Taylor is misguided.

As for the latter, Crean didn't treat every human like a piece a crap.

GGGG

Quote from: StillAWarrior on July 03, 2009, 07:20:32 AM
Crean couldn't have stopped Tyshawn from leaving if he would have wanted to.  Couldn't have stopped any of them from leaving.  Marquette could have refused to release the recruits, but Crean couldn't have stopped them.  The only thing he could have done -- and it would have been the classy thing to do -- is refuse to take Nick Williams at Indiana.  


I don't think Buzz even wanted Williams.  MU released him as soon as he asked.

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