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Quote from: jmayer1 on April 21, 2009, 09:59:35 AM
Agreed about the injuries.  It should be a fun race in the NFC North next year, who know maybe the Lions will even win a game.

However, I don't think I would definitely take any of those 3 you mentioned over Rodgers at this point.  Roethlisberger obviously has two rings, but to say he led them to those titles would be a bit of an overstatement (similar to Bradshaw).  Cutler makes a lot of foolish mistakes (very similar to early Favre) and wasn't able to overcome a generous defense to lead his team to more victories than losses (the same as Rodgers).  Ryan had a good rookie year but also hasn't show the ability to make a ton of huge plays yet.  I think all those guys are just about on the same level right now, but that could all change in a year.  Stats don't always tell the whole story but they do help and Rodgers did put up some pretty good ones last year.

I obviously wasn't including any of the older guys (McNabb, Warner, Hassleback, Delhomme) as I don't think they have many more years in them. 

Well said jmayer.  Plus Rodgers contract 6 years at 65 mil with 20 guranteed is easier on the cap than Ryan (6 years at 72 with 34 mil guranteed), (Big Ben 8 year at 102 with 36 mil guranteed).   

Cutler will need to be resigned soon (next 2 years), but his cap # right now around 8 mil a year is a good deal for the Bears.

SaintPaulWarrior

Quote from: jmayer1 on April 21, 2009, 09:59:35 AM
Cutler wasn't able to overcome a generous defense to lead his team to more victories than losses (the same as Rodgers).

Agree with you here.  Cutler was 13-1 when his generous defense was able to hold the opponent to 21 points or less.

Dish

Quote from: jmayer1 on April 21, 2009, 09:59:35 AM
Agreed about the injuries.  It should be a fun race in the NFC North next year, who know maybe the Lions will even win a game.

However, I don't think I would definitely take any of those 3 you mentioned over Rodgers at this point.  Roethlisberger obviously has two rings, but to say he led them to those titles would be a bit of an overstatement (similar to Bradshaw).  Cutler makes a lot of foolish mistakes (very similar to early Favre) and wasn't able to overcome a generous defense to lead his team to more victories than losses (the same as Rodgers).  Ryan had a good rookie year but also hasn't show the ability to make a ton of huge plays yet.  I think all those guys are just about on the same level right now, but that could all change in a year.  Stats don't always tell the whole story but they do help and Rodgers did put up some pretty good ones last year.

I obviously wasn't including any of the older guys (McNabb, Warner, Hassleback, Delhomme) as I don't think they have many more years in them. 

I took my rankings as if I were a NFL GM. Would the Packers trade Rodgers to the Bears for Cutler? Most likely. Would the Bears trade Cutler for Rodgers? Probably not without a pick/other player thrown in. I'm not knocking Rodgers here. Cutler has two solid years (1 Pro Bowl) and not the injury history Rodgers has had.

Roethlisberger has the rings, and while he may not put up fantastic stats, he's been very durable and his track record makes him the second most successful QB in the league. Since he has 2 years on Rodgers age wise, I might give you that Rodgers long term is a better option than Roethlisberger.

The league loves Matt Ryan. Forget about his cap number, if the Falcons offered Matt Ryan for Rodgers, that deal would happen in a heartbeat.

I give Rodgers credit, he proved he can play at a high level last year. No reason to think he won't put up 4000 yds, 25 TD's again with that offense around him.


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