Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 02:48:19 PMShaka's done it a lot of ways in his coaching career. It's why I think he'll adjust and continue to be a high level coach.

I certainly hope so. Going into this season with Caedin Hamilton as the starting center has got me having doubts.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 02:47:03 PMNot remotely what I said - maybe you should re-read your comment and my response.

You said he takes as many unknown projects as he possibly can.  That's objectively false. 

Again, comprehension seems to be an issue for you.  Norman hasn't worked out but he was a pretty highly regarded recruit.  That's that point based on your comments. 

Huh.

Quote from: panda on Today at 02:40:56 PMThis team is alarmingly bad. Without Ross, we would have multiple losses to cupcakes. Much different than shaka's first team/second team.

I don't agree, but even if I did it has nothing to do what I said. I'm not saying we're going to compete for the Big East next year. We're not. But I don't think it's hard to see how this team improves a lot next year either.

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 02:43:06 PMThe problem is when everyone defending him, like yourself, point out back to back 2 seeds they're talking about a program built differently than the one he's built now.

His first round draft pick was a transfer. His All American PG was a transfer. I'm not someone who thinks he needs to go portaling every year, but you don't get to brag about how he's doing it the right way when this is his first year actually doing that (you can call last year that too, but they fell apart last year). The results are terrible thus far.

Shaka's done it a lot of ways in his coaching career. It's why I think he'll adjust and continue to be a high level coach.

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 02:48:32 PMThe fact you think the coach of a high major program recruiting 6 high major prospects over 4 seasons is some sort of win is hysterical. How are you not seeing what's so goddamn obvious. 5 years in and we BLOW.

Not remotely what I said - maybe you should re-read your comment and my response.

You said he takes as many unknown projects as he possibly can.  That's objectively false. 

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 03:40:05 PMTo add to this. You're pointing to Owens and Norman, as if one isn't so bad he can't see the field and the other isn't so bad that simple drives or made FT's is seen as a giant improvement in his game.

Cool. Shaka has recruited 7 profile recruits. 2 absolutely blow, 1 had a good freshman year and regressed, 2 look to be actual HM players, and 2 haven't stepped on the court. So again, congrats??

Again, comprehension seems to be an issue for you.  Norman hasn't worked out but he was a pretty highly regarded recruit.  That's that point based on your comments. 

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 02:39:40 PMThe further we get into the season the harder it gets to see that as a possibility. 

Eh. Lot of average teams in the Big East. And ultimately I don't think they reach 11 or 12 Big East wins.

If Dayton and Oklahoma had swung our way a lot of people would have hope for that total. But nothing is significantly different about this team without those two wins. Need to learn how to close games and fix some of these droughts. There are countless examples every year of teams that improve as the year goes on.

We're 356th in luck on Kenpom. I don't think it's actually luck, it's lack of execution in big situations. But if that improves then the results will come with it.

Quote from: panda on November 26, 2025, 05:38:53 PMI hope you burn your turkey

Actually had Wagyu steak on Thursday and it was unbelievable.  Turkey tonight so will keep you posted. 

Hope you had a nice holiday (sincerely). 

Quote from: wadesworld on Today at 01:37:50 PMRight. He's proven to be a very successful coach for a long time. He hasn't put a product on the court that is up to that standard. Maybe he just completely lost it at 48 years old. Or maybe he'll adjust.

Most think he's too stubborn and has too big of an ego for that. I guess we'll find out if they're right.

The problem is when everyone defending him, like yourself, point out back to back 2 seeds they're talking about a program built differently than the one he's built now.

His first round draft pick was a transfer. His All American PG was a transfer. I'm not someone who thinks he needs to go portaling every year, but you don't get to brag about how he's doing it the right way when this is his first year actually doing that (you can call last year that too, but they fell apart last year). The results are terrible thus far.

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 02:38:09 PMHow did we improve from 2021 to 2022? We lost Morsell, Kuath, and Justin Lewis. Tyler Kolek was a barely average sophomore and O Max was infuriating. No way we could have improved in 2022 with only freshman Chase Ross as a new contributor.

It happens all the time. Let it play out.

This team is alarmingly bad. Without Ross, we would have multiple losses to cupcakes. Much different than shaka's first team/second team.

Quote from: BM1090 on Today at 02:32:23 PMThere's also a pathway where they improve on the margins, win 11 or 12 BE games, and it's a disappointing season but not a disastrous one. Let it play out.

The further we get into the season the harder it gets to see that as a possibility.