Quote from: wadesworld on November 28, 2025, 10:33:01 PMThe problem is that nobody behind him is better or ready to contribute. He played 17 minutes today. Still more than he should, but that's where a talent upgrade on the roster is needed. The talent isn't on the roster.

He's far and away the worst player on this roster. Any player stepping into those 17 minutes would both be a greater benefit in the present and future of Marquette basketball

Quote from: MU82 on November 28, 2025, 09:22:16 PMAnother big win for Gard. Getting it done, as usual.

But they paid Boyd more than they're willing to pay a quarterback, apparently. And another efficient 1/6 shooting night for their 6'10" portal addition.

Quote from: panda on November 28, 2025, 10:30:35 PMDifferent lineups/rotations. More minutes to higher ceiling players.

It's not like the current Caedin Hamilton experiment is flourishing.

The problem is that nobody behind him is better or ready to contribute. He played 17 minutes today. Still more than he should, but that's where a talent upgrade on the roster is needed. The talent isn't on the roster.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 28, 2025, 05:58:43 PMI've said it many times. Not sure what you expect him to do in the middle of the season. Unfortunately no trading in college basketball.

Well, actually I do know what you expect him to do. You expect him to play all the freshman and pull redshirts in a lost season so that you personally can decide whether those players are worth keeping around. Logical, to say the least.

Different lineups/rotations. More minutes to higher ceiling players.

It's not like the current Caedin Hamilton experiment is flourishing.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 28, 2025, 10:26:09 PMBecause it's different to say "Shaka's refusal to use one of the most important avenues to building a roster" and another thing to say Shaka is showing "year after year that his philosophy is unnatural carnal knowledgeing awful" when his philosophy has brought the highest two single seeds MU has ever got in an NCAA Tournament and two other single digit seeds in his four seasons here. There's criticism and there's being a whiny baby. Even if the person claims his posts aren't literal once he sees how absurd they are.

Shaka has had nothing but success until this season while at MU. He will have to adjust, whether that's landing higher level high school players, recruiting the portal, or both. People are acting like there's no shot in hell he's going to do anything to try to improve the roster, he's just going to sit here and be too good for those adjustments. I personally think the guy's a good coach and a competitive guy who misread his roster this year. I think he'll make necessary adjustments. Other people think he only takes good players against his will and need to be forced to bring in players he doesn't want by his assistants.

*pretty bad January through the close of
The season last year too

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on November 28, 2025, 06:40:50 PMThis is great being the Ted Thompson led Packers of NCAA. Build from within, don't take people from other teams/ programs, refuse to do what literally everyone else is, relationships, culture, blah, blah, blah.  And history is clear how this worked for Ted.  He caught lightning in a bottle one year, otherwise season after season of disappointment and underachievement. 

Like 95% of the NFL wish they could've had Ted's success. Similar to the percent of college basketball programs that would take Shaka's level of success.

Quote from: wadesworld on November 28, 2025, 05:58:43 PMI've said it many times. Not sure what you expect him to do in the middle of the season. Unfortunately no trading in college basketball.

I don't expect him to do anything about it in the middle of the season.
I do expect him to use his 20+ years of coaching experience to adequately assess the weaknesses of his roster, and then use all the tools at his disposal to address them.

What we've seen the past couple of years is him either missing the flaws of his teams; seeing them and choosing not to address them in service to a principle; or seeing them but believing he's found a way overcome them through relationships and growth.
I tend to suspect it's a bit of all three.

Quote from: The Sultan on November 28, 2025, 07:45:14 PMSo why then do you get all out of sorts when people are concerned that he apparently completely ignores one path in which he can do so?

Because it's different to say "Shaka's refusal to use one of the most important avenues to building a roster" and another thing to say Shaka is showing "year after year that his philosophy is unnatural carnal knowledgeing awful" when his philosophy has brought the highest two single seeds MU has ever got in an NCAA Tournament and two other single digit seeds in his four seasons here. There's criticism and there's being a whiny baby. Even if the person claims his posts aren't literal once he sees how absurd they are.

Shaka has had nothing but success until this season while at MU. He will have to adjust, whether that's landing higher level high school players, recruiting the portal, or both. People are acting like there's no shot in hell he's going to do anything to try to improve the roster, he's just going to sit here and be too good for those adjustments. I personally think the guy's a good coach and a competitive guy who misread his roster this year. I think he'll make necessary adjustments. Other people think he only takes good players against his will and need to be forced to bring in players he doesn't want by his assistants.

Quote from: onepost on November 28, 2025, 06:48:18 PMAnd this is why people don't take you seriously on this board. Hyperbole this, semantics that, no actual discourse.

"He can't trade players! Unless I missed that lolol. Nothing he can do!" The crux of all of this is his roster construction is so terrible we WISH he could trade. His loyalty to bad players in lieu of proven transfers is why we're here. So yes, his years of bad decisions is enough for me to criticize him on his 2025-2026 results. His loyalty to Caedin Hamilton is legitimately losing us games RIGHT NOW. And if you argue we have no better options at C, refer up a couple sentences.

"You expect him to pull all the redshirts and play only freshmen 40 minutes so YOU can decide if they should play at Marquette. I take what you say literally and will not deduce your comment to a larger point. I am very intelligent!" It's been obvious this season is a lost cause for any tourney aspirations. So yes, I'd like to see Shaka develop his freshmen and sophomores so we're not left holding the bag with players like Ben Gold, Tre Norman, Sean Jones in their junior and senior years. Sure, I would have pulled Ian's redshirt to get him game action. I'm looking at Creighton and Hudson Greer went from a redshirt to being one of their better players. But you're clearly ok with this trajectory so nothing I say will dissuade you from it.

If you don't like what you post then don't post it. Or if you don't mean what you post, then post what you mean. I'll respond to what you say. Sorry if I read your posts...well, as they're posted.

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on November 28, 2025, 09:41:56 PMNo players lost?  We lost a ton from last year.

No players lost before exhausting eligibility. Nothing significant has occurred that was unexpected.