Quote from: Jockey on January 20, 2026, 06:46:47 PMHe'll be placed in the Santo/Baines wing of the Hall.

That's not entirely fair to Jones.  There are only 14 other players in history that won 10+ GG, and the only 2 that aren't in the HOF are Vizquel and Keith Hernandez.  Vizquel couldn't hit hence why he has a career WAR under 40 despite being a top 3 defensive SS of all time and Hernandez probably gets dinged for playing on TONS of terrible teams, despite winning 2 WS titles.  Pretty crazy to only make the playoffs 3 times in a 17 year career...yet win a ring in 66% of those appearances.

Jones is at worst the 3rd best defensive CF of all time behind Mays and Griffey.  And at his peak he was an absolute weapon at the plate.  That 2005 season was preposterous and he was an absolute superstar for a good 6-7 years.  If he didn't get fat and lazy after leaving Atlanta and had even decent years in his early 30s, he would have sleepwalked to a 70+ WAR and been a no brainer.  Even still, WAR wise he's basically comped to guys like Andrew Dawson and Dave Winfield, not a bum like Baines.

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 21, 2026, 02:07:21 PMI don't know if that would help. Soldier Field has some of the best sightlines and seat proximity to the field in college or the NFL. Even a couple of Packer fan friends say its a great stadium to watch a game (except for the Bears fans). It has the advantage of being the smallest venue in the NFL and they took advantage of that.

Some people, understandably, just enjoy the TV version of football, which is awesome.

That stadium is a dump, and there isn't crap to do around it on game day.  The two experiences are night and day.

Quote from: CreightonWarrior on January 21, 2026, 01:50:00 PMFinally a win for one of the little guys

Finally, some team is spending the revenue sharing.

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 21, 2026, 01:30:16 PMSounds like you need to go to a game in Green Bay.

I don't know if that would help. Soldier Field has some of the best sightlines and seat proximity to the field in college or the NFL. Even a couple of Packer fan friends say its a great stadium to watch a game (except for the Bears fans). It has the advantage of being the smallest venue in the NFL and they took advantage of that.

Some people, understandably, just enjoy the TV version of football, which is awesome.

Quote from: Jockey on January 21, 2026, 12:27:27 PMTrue, but it included an optout if he wasn't in the 3 highest paid players which he used after 2 years when the WS refused to do so.

He posted 3.4 and 0.6 WAR seasons the next two years then retired from baseball. So, perhaps declining to make him one of the three highest-paid players in baseball wasn't a bad idea?

I appreciate that the squirrels that come down to our deck keep my cat entertained throughout the day. He still hasn't bagged one, though.

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on January 21, 2026, 08:47:50 AMA large part of the difference IMO is that he is playing at "Nigel speed" rather than trying to play at "Sean speed".
 

Chase needs to learn that difference (not likely 88% through his college career). He needs to
learn to vary speeds and change timing. He is OFTEN basically out of control and moving too fast to put up a good shot. If he could add some finesse he'd be much more effective.

I'll be appreciating mine sauteed with a nice brown butter sauce.

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on January 21, 2026, 12:40:15 PMCody Bellinger officially back to the Yankees on a 5 year deal.

Finally a win for one of the little guys

Quote from: Tha Hound on January 21, 2026, 01:36:26 PMWould enjoy seeing the minutes distribution over the course of these games. I love confirming my priors.

Some of what you're thinking: confirmed.

We're not good, but the crazy choices by the staff have made this year worse. Shame!