Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 12:11:39 PMWell done, and right on target.  The angst and dart throwing toward Shaka by some Scoopers is embarrassing, and ignorant AF.

Well Shaka's approach to this year's team is embarrassing and ignorant AF too.

Quote from: onepost on Today at 01:47:46 PMOf any year, it's by far the most defensible, I agree with you. We needed size and depth on that team, so yes I would have gone to the portal. 100%. Moving Jop to the starting 5 left us with Chase and Sean as the only meaningful bench guys: Chase had loud great moments but neither showed enough to warrant Shaka basically relying on 7 players (Ben was two years away from being two years away, shoutout Fran Fraschila).

And Kolek has forgotten more about basketball than I'll ever know, so if he urged Shaka to add pieces then I feel pretty strongly about my opinion.

Could be argued about relying on Omax the year prior or even relying on Joplin as a 6th man. I mean it's not worth really getting into a pissing match about it but I 100% think Shaka was right in his call here. Could he have been right as well if he used the portal? Sure, but he relied on "bird in hand is worth two in the bush" knew he had a "dude" rising to be a reliable sophomore, knew he had the BE 6th man of the year.

But it wasn't either of them that caused us to lose to NCST nor to split 2nd with Creighton. Outside of TKO not a single person showed up for that S16 game including Oso, Stevie, & Kam,

Quote from: onepost on Today at 01:47:46 PMOf any year, it's by far the most defensible, I agree with you. We needed size and depth on that team, so yes I would have gone to the portal. 100%. Moving Jop to the starting 5 left us with Chase and Sean as the only meaningful bench guys: Chase had loud great moments but neither showed enough to warrant Shaka basically relying on 7 players (Ben was two years away from being two years away, shoutout Fran Fraschila).

And Kolek has forgotten more about basketball than I'll ever know, so if he urged Shaka to add pieces then I feel pretty strongly about my opinion.

Where has there been any legitimately-sourced proof that Kolek urged Shaka to use the portal that offseason?

Quote from: onepost on Today at 01:47:46 PMOf any year, it's by far the most defensible, I agree with you. We needed size and depth on that team, so yes I would have gone to the portal. 100%. Moving Jop to the starting 5 left us with Chase and Sean as the only meaningful bench guys: Chase had loud great moments but neither showed enough to warrant Shaka basically relying on 7 players (Ben was two years away from being two years away, shoutout Fran Fraschila).

And Kolek has forgotten more about basketball than I'll ever know, so if he urged Shaka to add pieces then I feel pretty strongly about my opinion.

The hits keep coming....but one thing is for sure..Kolek and Shaka know more about basketball than you'll ever know. You're a cartoon.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on Today at 01:39:09 PMOut of curiosity if you had the Big East 6th man of the year coming back, Chase getting older, with every other meaningful player would you have gone out into the portal?

Shakas approach made sense that offseason, there's no world where Joplin isn't viewed as a potential starter by most top tier teams in the portal and Shaka chooses to use a guy that's a known commodity within the system rather than chancing a new piece, moving chase to Jop's 6th man role. What part of this decision are you critiquing?

Keep in mind Onewhiner is trying to do all he can do to shat on Shaka "despite really liking him."

And Shaka standing pat either the roster despite Kolek allegedly wanting him to portal a "big," we still made Big East Championship game, got a 2 seed, made the Sweet 16, and then went 4 for 31 from 3 and didn't advance to Elite 8 - if only Shaka got a "big" that year to replace Omax!!

Quote from: panda on Today at 01:22:50 PM*Abomination of a season
*Wojo level collapse last season

I'm sick of this back and forth so let me explain why you and VBMG keep having this pissing match. It's about level of granularity.

A CEO may say at the end of the year "we had a good year, we hit the baseline benchmark of xyz this year" but in reality it might be skewed by an over performance in q1. The CEO isn't wrong, the year hit the benchmark, they're just ignoring why.

So when you say we had a bad season, you're ignoring that he hit benchmark standards which is what VBMG is saying. When, he says we had a good year, he's ignoring that it was skewed by over performing early on. You both need to speak the same language Month over month performance, ytd, season over season etc or else both of you will keep passive aggressively correcting each other.

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 01:29:30 PMOverall, the biggest problem with this team is the lack of 'growth' on the roster; however, he's the only one whose minutes don't reflect that.

200 minutes have to come from somewhere.  Despite starting, he was 7th in minutes last night with the only rotation player getting less being AS.  That was also with no Zaide who likely would have gotten more minutes than him had he not been a DNPCD. CH has played more than 21 minutes in a grand total of 1 regulation length game. It's not like when Derrick was averaging 33 mpg.

Quote from: Galway Eagle on Today at 01:39:09 PMOut of curiosity if you had the Big East 6th man of the year coming back, Chase getting older, with every other meaningful player would you have gone out into the portal?

Shakas approach made sense that offseason, there's no world where Joplin isn't viewed as a potential starter by most top tier teams in the portal and Shaka chooses to use a guy that's a known commodity within the system rather than chancing a new piece, moving chase to Jop's 6th man role. What part of this decision are you critiquing?

Of any year, it's by far the most defensible, I agree with you. We needed size and depth on that team, so yes I would have gone to the portal. 100%. Moving Jop to the starting 5 left us with Chase and Sean as the only meaningful bench guys: Chase had loud great moments but neither showed enough to warrant Shaka basically relying on 7 players (Ben was two years away from being two years away, shoutout Fran Fraschila).

And Kolek has forgotten more about basketball than I'll ever know, so if he urged Shaka to add pieces then I feel pretty strongly about my opinion.

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 01:21:12 PMWojo wasn't fired because of his last season. 

Not solely, but that year did get him fired in conjunction with what came before. The point in what you quoted is that this year is exponentially worse than the year that did get him fired. 2021 was a much better & more successful team than this one has been.

Quote from: Tha Hound on Today at 01:34:46 PMShaka has backed himself into a corner with the RGV strategy and never giving up on "his guys." That's left him with the following options for next year:

(1) Double-down on RGV and roll with the same group of players, despite it leading to one of the worst rosters in modern MU history, and hope for a complete 180 next year;

(2) Concede that his RGV strategy was a mistake, go back on his word to the players he recruited, cut some of them and utilize the transfer portal to rebuild; or

(3) Walk away

I doubt he goes with #2 for many reasons, and I don't see him walking away (yet). My best guess is we run it back next year with the same roster (+ maybe 1 portal addition) and things are slightly better but still not good enough and he gets canned.

Ya...well he made this bed..so if he can't find a way to make #2 happen then he should be fired before next season starts in my opinion.

And actually, I don't think he even has to admit it was a mistake, just that it isn't working and isn't going to work moving forward.