Quote from: wadesworld on May 05, 2026, 11:21:47 AMIt has nothing to do with Phenom sending kids to Iowa State because of Nike.

Top 50ish Phenom Recruits

Dooney Johnson- Gonzaga
Donovan Davis - Iowa State
Jamarion Batemon - Iowa State
Amari Allen- Alabama
Kon Knueppel- Duke
Milan Momcilovic - Iowa State
Seth Trimble- North Carolina (Jordan, but his older Brother went there)
Leon Bond - Virginia
Patrick Baldwin Jr.- UWM (Adidas, but his dad was the coach)
Tyrese Hunter- Iowa State
Jalen Johnson -Duke
Jaemyn Brakefield- Duke
Tyler Herro- Kentucky

Zero correlation. None.

I wish we signed Wisconsin's very best players, even if they play in Chuck Taylors.

Quote from: lawdog77 on May 05, 2026, 08:21:48 AMFor the season, they calculated the fastbreak scenario where it is passed out for an open three. That play ended up being a net negative. Hopefully Shaka was listening.

Shaka would rather fastbreaks lead to open layups. He doesn't encourage a player who has a layup to kick out for a 3.

Quote from: jfp61 on May 05, 2026, 11:14:12 AMAnd this is an arguement againist anything I said?

Phenom primarily sends their guys to nike. They have good relationships with Iowa State.

Predicting Davis is going there is easy.

Yes.  The point of shoe companies paying high school players to go to schools within their brand was to get in on them early and sign them to shoe deals if/when they become stars in the NBA.  The shoe brand connection doesn't mean much at all anymore.  Schools themselves are paying players.

And again, Jordan is a NIKE BRAND!

You made a decade outdated argument.  It's all good.  Iowa State has had a great pipeline to high level Milwaukee area recruits.  It has nothing to do with Phenom sending kids to Iowa State because of Nike.

Quote from: wadesworld on May 05, 2026, 11:09:35 AMCooper Flagg, who played for a Nike AAU team, went to Nike's flagship program.

And this is an arguement againist anything I said?

Phenom primarily sends their guys to nike. They have good relationships with Iowa State.

Predicting Davis is going there is easy.

Quote from: jfp61 on May 05, 2026, 10:57:29 AMMy inital point was you didn't need a crystal ball to know he was going to Iowa state.

But apparently I am saying that he is only going to a top 25 basketball program because of its shoes.

Yes, you have been saying that.  And it's an absurd take.  Nike couldn't lock up Cooper Flagg, who played for a Nike AAU team, went to Nike's flagship program, and yet he signed with New Balance.  Again, this isn't decades ago.  Players will go to whatever school will pay them, and the shoe brands aren't the ones making their payments anymore.

Wembanyama had one of the great defensive games in NBA history. But he sucked on offense, and the Spurs lost.

Quote from: wadesworld on May 05, 2026, 10:28:40 AMYou really think Nike is telling kids playing on Nike AAU teams that they can't go to Jordan Brand schools?  The brand that is...well, part of Nike?

So they're telling Donovan Davis that he has to go to Iowa State over Marquette, but they're letting a MUCH higher profile recruit in Caleb Wilson play at Jordan Brand's flagship program, UNC?

Sure.  I'm buying it.

Facts and simple common sense have no place here. Step aside while agendas are be ranted about.

Quote from: The Sultan on May 05, 2026, 10:30:38 AMYes. The best way to fix offenses is to have them take worse shots. Brilliant.

Is it a worse shot? Chase, for example, shot 49% from 2, and 29% from 3. I would argue a 3 is a worse shot for Chase than a 2. He had no business jacking up 4 threes a game. Same with Ben. Ben shot nearly twice as many threes as he did twos, despite shooting 26% from 3, and 66% from 2.

Quote from: The Sultan on May 05, 2026, 10:51:48 AMNo I think that it makes perfect sense for Davis to go to ISU regardless of the shoes they use. They play a great style of basketball in a fun environment and TJO seems like a great guy to play for.

My inital point was you didn't need a crystal ball to know he was going to Iowa state.

But apparently I am saying that he is only going to a top 25 basketball program because of its shoes.