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Title: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2021, 10:12:38 AM
How many season ticket holders here are going?   Looking forward to a scouting report.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: mubb3434 on October 13, 2021, 11:38:09 AM
I have night class (grad student) until 7pm so hopfully can make it over there for the last hour...
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MUfan12 on October 13, 2021, 01:01:22 PM
Gonna bring the kiddo, so my thoughts might be a bit scattered if she loses interest.

She keeps asking if Giannis will play. I wish, kid. I wish.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: BrewCity83 on October 13, 2021, 01:30:43 PM
Gonna bring the kiddo, so my thoughts might be a bit scattered if she loses interest.

She keeps asking if Giannis will play. I wish, kid. I wish.

Tell her that Kur is "Our Giannis".  That may help...
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: cheebs09 on October 13, 2021, 02:21:29 PM
Gonna bring the kiddo, so my thoughts might be a bit scattered if she loses interest.

She keeps asking if Giannis will play. I wish, kid. I wish.

Not even Kostas or Alex. Thanks Wojo.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: We R Final Four on October 13, 2021, 03:49:38 PM
It is an open practice on 10/14, not a scrimmage.
Scrimmage is 10/31 at Haunted Hoops.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: tower912 on October 13, 2021, 04:54:35 PM
Mea culpa
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Mr. Nielsen on October 14, 2021, 12:45:30 PM
•   Parking: Parking is available in the 5th Street structure attached to Fiserv Forum.  Parking is $6 if you park in the structure after 5:00 PM and you must pay the pay stations on the level you park.
•   Fiserv Forum Entrance: All fans must enter through the Skybridge located on the Northwest side of the building.  Masks are not required inside Fiserv Forum.
•   Doors Open: 5:30 PM
•   Practice Timing: 6:00 - 7:15 PM with a Q&A with Head Coach Shaka Smart at the completion of practice.
•   Concessions: There will be limited concessions available.  You can visit the area outside of Section 119 or you can also visit the BMO Club (Marquette Room) for beverages only.  The BMO Club is open to everyone tonight.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 14, 2021, 12:47:37 PM
•   Parking: Parking is available in the 5th Street structure attached to Fiserv Forum.  Parking is $6 if you park in the structure after 5:00 PM and you must pay the pay stations on the level you park.
•   Fiserv Forum Entrance: All fans must enter through the Skybridge located on the Northwest side of the building.  Masks are not required inside Fiserv Forum.
•   Doors Open: 5:30 PM
•   Practice Timing: 6:00 - 7:15 PM with a Q&A with Head Coach Shaka Smart at the completion of practice.
•   Concessions: There will be limited concessions available.  You can visit the area outside of Section 119 or you can also visit the BMO Club (Marquette Room) for beverages only.  The BMO Club is open to everyone tonight.

Open to all, including students?  Or just non student season ticket holders?
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: We R Final Four on October 14, 2021, 12:57:50 PM
Open to all STHs.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: The Lens on October 14, 2021, 01:08:36 PM
I'm going.  What questions should I ask Shaka? 

Wrong Answers Only...
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Newsdreams on October 14, 2021, 01:14:19 PM
I'm going.  What questions should I ask Shaka? 

Wrong Answers Only...
Unlike Wojo, is he an Arby's guy?
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Herman Cain on October 14, 2021, 01:44:10 PM
I'm going.  What questions should I ask Shaka? 

Wrong Answers Only...
Ask him his view to the rest of the league .  Would be interesting to see who think the top level teams are.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MU82 on October 14, 2021, 02:35:38 PM
I'm going.  What questions should I ask Shaka? 

Wrong Answers Only...

Does he approve of willie referring to him as Shaka-Wojo-Dukiet-Rick-Hank-Tex-Lipe?
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Uncle Rico on October 14, 2021, 02:42:32 PM
Does he approve of willie referring to him as Shaka-Wojo-Dukiet-Rick-Hank-Tex-Lipe?

It’s Shaka Dumb, pal
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: tower912 on October 14, 2021, 02:50:26 PM
Shaka shlurper
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: naginiF on October 14, 2021, 02:51:08 PM
I'm going.  What questions should I ask Shaka? 

Wrong Answers Only...
Ask if he regrets using a anti-Semitic word while answering a question in front of Dodds
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: dgies9156 on October 14, 2021, 02:58:54 PM
Ask him his view to the rest of the league .  Would be interesting to see who think the top level teams are.

Besides us!
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: tower912 on October 14, 2021, 03:03:58 PM
If you want a preview of tonight's practice, I recommend the story up on the front page of Dodd's site by MUCrisco.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 14, 2021, 04:21:31 PM
It’s Shaka Dumb, pal

This made me laugh.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: brewcity77 on October 14, 2021, 05:54:36 PM
Stevie Mitchell in a walking boot. Some things never change...  ;D
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 14, 2021, 05:57:52 PM
Stevie Mitchell in a walking boot. Some things never change...  ;D

As spotted at Jimmy John's
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 14, 2021, 06:00:37 PM
Does he approve of willie referring to him as Shaka-Wojo-Dukiet-Rick-Hank-Tex-Lipe?

Now shortened to Shaka Fukiet
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Newsdreams on October 14, 2021, 06:23:23 PM
Ask him his view to the rest of the league .  Would be interesting to see who think the top level teams are.
Not following instructions.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Newsdreams on October 14, 2021, 06:24:33 PM
If you want a preview of tonight's practice, I recommend the story up on the front page of Dodd's site by MUCrisco.
Blended in?
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MUfan12 on October 14, 2021, 08:27:15 PM
Brew has a great thread on Twitter you should check out- https://twitter.com/brewcity1977/status/1448784569851912193?t=HIpmXT8J5H7QH37B3vZR6w&s=19

I'll add a couple of things-

-Unlike past teams, this group has the ability and mindset to guard. Shaka was really getting into the finer points of positioning/timing/cohesion with them.

-Physically this looks way more like a Big East team, and the young guys aren't filled in yet. Kur, O-Max, Joplin, and Morsell are dudes.

-He was dogging Ellis pretty good. Challenging him quite a bit during the middle part of the practice.

-Emphasis on finding the corners when running their transition stuff. Guys were loudly encouraged to shoot if they were open and it was a clean look.

-Lewis looks like he's in terrific shape.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: forgetful on October 14, 2021, 08:29:17 PM
I'm going.  What questions should I ask Shaka? 

Wrong Answers Only...

Should Beef N' Cheddars come on a regular role instead of the onion role?
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: brewcity77 on October 14, 2021, 08:31:53 PM
A few thoughts...

Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 14, 2021, 08:52:00 PM
A few thoughts...

  • This team has some practice shooters. We'll see how it translates, but Kolek, Joplin, Greg, O-Max, and Jones all looked like capable shooters.
  • Everything starts with defense. Transition drills, press, 5-on-5 "playing for stops" drills, and the defensive effort in practice is higher than anything I've seen in a good 7-8 years.
  • Morsell is a dog on defense. Really good at getting through screens, active hands, but his offense ended the practice when he scored a driving lay-up & three on consecutive possessions.
  • Kam Jones and O-Max Prosper were the guys that looked better than I expected. Both look ready for minutes now.
  • Ellis is an athlete, but he needs work, especially if he's going to play PG. Too many turnovers, errant passes, loose handle. But then he'll make a play that drops your jaw.
  • Here's my Twitter thread on the night for more: https://twitter.com/brewcity1977/status/1448784569851912193?s=21

Thanks Brew!  Kam’s name continues to come up in preseason. Could be an under the radar freshman who contributes more than expected. 
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Daniel on October 14, 2021, 10:29:11 PM
Good stuff!   Thanks!
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: TAMU Eagle on October 14, 2021, 10:31:18 PM
A few thoughts...

  • This team has some practice shooters. We'll see how it translates, but Kolek, Joplin, Greg, O-Max, and Jones all looked like capable shooters.
  • Everything starts with defense. Transition drills, press, 5-on-5 "playing for stops" drills, and the defensive effort in practice is higher than anything I've seen in a good 7-8 years.
  • Morsell is a dog on defense. Really good at getting through screens, active hands, but his offense ended the practice when he scored a driving lay-up & three on consecutive possessions.
  • Kam Jones and O-Max Prosper were the guys that looked better than I expected. Both look ready for minutes now.
  • Ellis is an athlete, but he needs work, especially if he's going to play PG. Too many turnovers, errant passes, loose handle. But then he'll make a play that drops your jaw.
  • Here's my Twitter thread on the night for more: https://twitter.com/brewcity1977/status/1448784569851912193?s=21

I got a different impression on the shooters. Kolek and Elliott looked like good shooters. Jones and O-Max were good in spurts. The rest really struggled.

The defense is refreshingly good. Extremely aggressive. Very few teams will be comfortable playing us. Coach said that the team's goal is 32 deflections a game. Seemed possible. The offense is all about transition, at least it was this practice. When the defense managed to stall the transition, the offensive results weren't pretty.

Kam Jones was the biggest surprise for me as well. Confident with the ball, a creative scorer, and a pest on defense.

Joplin isn't afraid to shoot but his defense looked to be the farthest behind of anyone.

Ellis had a rough practice overall. Didn't do much well and seemed gassed all practice.

Kuath will try to dunk on everyone but also showed a few softer offensive moves. Swats everything on defense. Fans will love him.

Elliott wasn't allowed to do sprints with the team due to injuries but did all the other drills. Shot is still great, drive is still not so much.

Oso has filled out a lot and is a strong defender. He won't have trouble guarding  most of the 5s in our league. His offense is non-existent. There was one possession Shaka was screaming at him to demand the ball and he couldn't even get into good position.

Morsell's D is as good as advertised. His offense was slow for most of practice but really came on at the end. Will be able to get to the basket on his own.

Stevie in a boot, Shaka says it shouldn't be for long.

Keeyan didn't practice with the main group except for a 2 minute stretch where Oso needed a breather. But in that stretch he had a nice putback. Seems like he's already been relegated to the back of the bench. I don't know if Shaka is planning on redshirtting anyone but he would probably be the best candidate.

O-Max has nice skills on both sides of the ball. I think he's a year away but has a really high ceiling.

Kolek is my pick for starting PG day 1. Best shooter along with Elliott and made some really great finds off his drives. Most intense. First on the floor going after loose balls.

Justin looked fine. Shot was off most of the practice. Didn't look like the breakout candidate we hope he is but it is one practice.

Shaka couldn't work in enough references to "growth", "development", "building year" into the Q and A afterwards.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Warrior2008 on October 14, 2021, 10:32:54 PM
No idea how the talent gels when games count or how many wins will come, but fans will love watching the type of basketball Shaka is pushing this team to play. We’re longer, quicker, and more athletic than recent teams and it shows on defense, especially with the intensity the guys were playing at. 

Very much looking forward to the season.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MuggsyB on October 14, 2021, 10:47:07 PM
A few thoughts...

  • This team has some practice shooters. We'll see how it translates, but Kolek, Joplin, Greg, O-Max, and Jones all looked like capable shooters.
  • Everything starts with defense. Transition drills, press, 5-on-5 "playing for stops" drills, and the defensive effort in practice is higher than anything I've seen in a good 7-8 years.
  • Morsell is a dog on defense. Really good at getting through screens, active hands, but his offense ended the practice when he scored a driving lay-up & three on consecutive possessions.
  • Kam Jones and O-Max Prosper were the guys that looked better than I expected. Both look ready for minutes now.
  • Ellis is an athlete, but he needs work, especially if he's going to play PG. Too many turnovers, errant passes, loose handle. But then he'll make a play that drops your jaw.
  • Here's my Twitter thread on the night for more: https://twitter.com/brewcity1977/status/1448784569851912193?s=21

Ty Brewcity.  Overall take on O-Max? 
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: brewcity77 on October 14, 2021, 10:57:21 PM
I got a different impression on the shooters. Kolek and Elliott looked like good shooters. Jones and O-Max were good in spurts. The rest really struggled.

The defense is refreshingly good. Extremely aggressive. Very few teams will be comfortable playing us. Coach said that the team's goal is 32 deflections a game. Seemed possible. The offense is all about transition, at least it was this practice. When the defense managed to stall the transition, the offensive results weren't pretty.

Kam Jones was the biggest surprise for me as well. Confident with the ball, a creative scorer, and a pest on defense.

Joplin isn't afraid to shoot but his defense looked to be the farthest behind of anyone.

Ellis had a rough practice overall. Didn't do much well and seemed gassed all practice.

Kuath will try to dunk on everyone but also showed a few softer offensive moves. Swats everything on defense. Fans will love him.

Elliott wasn't allowed to do sprints with the team due to injuries but did all the other drills. Shot is still great, drive is still not so much.

Oso has filled out a lot and is a strong defender. He won't have trouble guarding  most of the 5s in our league. His offense is non-existent. There was one possession Shaka was screaming at him to demand the ball and he couldn't even get into good position.

Morsell's D is as good as advertised. His offense was slow for most of practice but really came on at the end. Will be able to get to the basket on his own.

Stevie in a boot, Shaka says it shouldn't be for long.

Keeyan didn't practice with the main group except for a 2 minute stretch where Oso needed a breather. But in that stretch he had a nice putback. Seems like he's already been relegated to the back of the bench. I don't know if Shaka is planning on redshirtting anyone but he would probably be the best candidate.

O-Max has nice skills on both sides of the ball. I think he's a year away but has a really high ceiling.

Kolek is my pick for starting PG day 1. Best shooter along with Elliott and made some really great finds off his drives. Most intense. First on the floor going after loose balls.

Justin looked fine. Shot was off most of the practice. Didn't look like the breakout candidate we hope he is but it is one practice.

Shaka couldn't work in enough references to "growth", "development", "building year" into the Q and A afterwards.

I agree with most of this. As far as the shooters, I used the word "capable" because they all showed they could hit outside shots, but hitting a few in practice isn't the same as doing it in a game. I'm not convinced they'll all be good shooters in games, but the ability to grow into good shooters seemed to be there.

I thought it was interesting that we didn't really have a point guard. Get it in, get it to the nearest guard, go up court. Didn't matter if it was Kolek, Elliott, Ellis, Morsell, Jones, all of them brought it up.

Muggsy, I would say O-Max was one of my favorites to watch. He did some of everything, including leading fast breaks and making 50-foot heave passes that hit the mark. It was just one practice, so I don't want to read too much into it, but he looked like he could compete for starting minutes. That said, Justin's shot was also off and like TAMU said, he (Lewis) didn't have a great night so part of this is likely just O-Max having a good showing by comparison.

I also watched Prosper a little in the FIBA stuff last summer and was less impressed then, so I'm trying not to put too much stock in tonight, but I do think the upside is there.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MuggsyB on October 14, 2021, 11:24:05 PM
I agree with most of this. As far as the shooters, I used the word "capable" because they all showed they could hit outside shots, but hitting a few in practice isn't the same as doing it in a game. I'm not convinced they'll all be good shooters in games, but the ability to grow into good shooters seemed to be there.

I thought it was interesting that we didn't really have a point guard. Get it in, get it to the nearest guard, go up court. Didn't matter if it was Kolek, Elliott, Ellis, Morsell, Jones, all of them brought it up.

Muggsy, I would say O-Max was one of my favorites to watch. He did some of everything, including leading fast breaks and making 50-foot heave passes that hit the mark. It was just one practice, so I don't want to read too much into it, but he looked like he could compete for starting minutes. That said, Justin's shot was also off and like TAMU said, he (Lewis) didn't have a great night so part of this is likely just O-Max having a good showing by comparison.

I also watched Prosper a little in the FIBA stuff last summer and was less impressed then, so I'm trying not to put too much stock in tonight, but I do think the upside is there.

I've sort of had a long day and will go back and read the in depth comments but defensively do you think we're most likely to go small or big to close games?  In other words can an O-Max, JLew, Khartoum Kaboom line-up potentially work?
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MuggsyB on October 14, 2021, 11:28:28 PM
It seems to me that JLew putting up 12-15 could elevate this team to pretty formidable.  I've already determined from the reports that I will love Kuath. 
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: brewcity77 on October 15, 2021, 05:46:22 AM
I've sort of had a long day and will go back and read the in depth comments but defensively do you think we're most likely to go small or big to close games?  In other words can an O-Max, JLew, Khartoum Kaboom line-up potentially work?

It was one practice with no traditional scrimmage but I expect you'd see a three-guard lineup. The thing with guys like Ellis and Jones is they have the length to make things difficult on a lot of people. I would guess three guards, a rebounding forward, and Kuath.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on October 15, 2021, 11:55:41 PM
Thanks for these detailed observations. I went back and read these tonight and appreciate the analyses.

I will say this: Scoop blusters, jokes, meanders, goes off the rails, argues incessantly, is off color, trolls, but man, there are some damn good basketball thoughts on this site.

Eff COVID! We need some basketball jonesing in our lives again. I have a feeling Charleston is going to drunk dry of Miller Lite.
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: Shooter McGavin on October 16, 2021, 12:58:49 AM
Thanks for these detailed observations. I went back and read these tonight and appreciate the analyses.

I will say this: Scoop blusters, jokes, meanders, goes off the rails, argues incessantly, is off color, trolls, but man, there are some damn good basketball thoughts on this site.

Eff COVID! We need some basketball jonesing in our lives again. I have a feeling Charleston is going to drunk dry of Miller Lite.
Amen, brother!!  Go Marquette!!
Title: Re: Scrimmage on 10/14
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on October 16, 2021, 02:11:01 PM
It seems to me that JLew putting up 12-15 could elevate this team to pretty formidable.  I've already determined from the reports that I will love Kuath.

Agree was at the practice. Also Kur looked way better than I heard he looked in the warehouse games. Shaka said David made 11/22 shots in shots taken during practices prior to the scrimmage.