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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on July 30, 2021, 12:20:28 PM

Title: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: tower912 on July 30, 2021, 12:20:28 PM
No more messing up the recruiting thread with this one.

Good luck, young man.   Remember MU if you want to transfer home.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 30, 2021, 12:25:00 PM
No more messing up the recruiting thread with this one.

Good luck, young man.   Remember MU if you want to transfer home.

It doesn’t make or break the program but it would be nice to see some recruiting wins, especially alleged priority players.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: brewcity77 on July 30, 2021, 12:31:14 PM
This one feels tough because he was in our back yard, was a statement recruit (ala Ellenson for Wojo), and we were in on him first. UVA didn't even offer until 2 weeks ago. Felt like he was coming until the last 24 hours.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Tha Hound on July 30, 2021, 12:31:46 PM
Fire Shaka Hire Wojo
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: tower912 on July 30, 2021, 12:43:49 PM
Coach up the players who said yes to Marquette.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on July 30, 2021, 12:46:24 PM
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Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on July 30, 2021, 12:50:38 PM
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Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: wadesworld on July 30, 2021, 12:50:56 PM
Did he receive a letter from the Hausers?
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: JTJ3 on July 30, 2021, 12:52:42 PM
Tony Bennett has personally recruited Bond for 2 years now, he just waited on the offer til Bond could visit there and Bennett could see him in person.

Shaka had a lot of ground to make up in this recruitment.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 30, 2021, 12:54:26 PM
Tony Bennett has personally recruited Bond for 2 years now, he just waited on the offer til Bond could visit there and Bennett could see him in person.

Shaka had a lot of ground to make up in this recruitment.

Maybe Bond just wants to play for a team first coach
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: JTJ3 on July 30, 2021, 01:00:31 PM
Maybe Bond just wants to play for a team first coach

And a coach who puts wings into the NBA.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 30, 2021, 01:06:07 PM
And a coach who puts wings into the NBA.

Kid sounds selfish if he’s worried about the NBA.  Maybe we dodged a bullet
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Boone on July 30, 2021, 01:07:40 PM
Clueless Dodds: “wow…that is a surprise”

 ::)
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: panda on July 30, 2021, 01:09:31 PM
Clueless Dodds: “wow…that is a surprise”

 ::)

People pay for that high quality analysis.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: MuggsyB on July 30, 2021, 01:11:38 PM
Damn....but it's time to move on. 
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Uncle Rico on July 30, 2021, 01:17:56 PM
Damn....but it's time to move on.

Boy, are you in the wrong place
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: rocky_warrior on July 30, 2021, 01:21:28 PM
Damn....but it's time to move on.

Whoa, wait, who took over Muggsy's account?

I'm not exactly a fan of "nonchalance" during the course of any MU hoops situation.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: MuggsyB on July 30, 2021, 01:29:45 PM
Whoa, wait, who took over Muggsy's account?

When it comes to a potential recruit and his decision (once it's over) you have to have the next man up mentality.   It's simply beyond our control and doesn't require further analysis.  Nonchalance on the court among the players wearing a MU uni?  That's a different story Rocky.  :)
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: willie warrior on July 30, 2021, 02:00:15 PM
Wonder if this an indication of Shaka's recruiting prowess or more an indication of the crappy image that Wojo-Dukiet put MU in for prospective recruits from MU's backyard. The 2022 recruiting class for Shaka is really crucial.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Johnny B on July 30, 2021, 02:01:44 PM
good to not get A 3 star eh
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: CountryRoads on July 30, 2021, 02:06:37 PM
Wonder if this an indication of Shaka's recruiting prowess or more an indication of the crappy image that Wojo-Dukiet put MU in for prospective recruits from MU's backyard. The 2022 recruiting class for Shaka is really crucial.

Mostly the latter I think. Our program became a bottom feeder and reaching NCAA and finishing 6th in the conference had more or less become a pipe dream. It’ll take some time to rebuild. There were zero inroads developed with Trimble and Bond before Shaka got here.

The individual pieces will be sorted out in due time, but at the end of the day I’m confident MU will put out a much better product going forward.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: jfp61 on July 30, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
This one feels tough because he was in our back yard, was a statement recruit (ala Ellenson for Wojo), and we were in on him first. UVA didn't even offer until 2 weeks ago. Felt like he was coming until the last 24 hours.
https://247sports.com/college/virginia/Article/Four-star-wing-Leon-Bond-breaks-down-UVA-Cincinnati-Marquette-as-decision-nears-167993488/

“I think Virginia really spoke for itself. I've been talking to Virginia since I want to say my sophomore year of high school but it's been real quiet so when I went down, it there spoke for itself. It really is an amazing program. Coach Bennett showed a lot of love. I got to go down and meet some of the guys, hang with some of the guys, so it was real cool. It really was amazing."

“Coach Bennett told me that he was going to offer me on my birthday, April 24, but he wanted to see me play in person so it'd be more heartfelt and everything, so actually see me playing games and not over streams. So, it was really cool. Really cool.”

That is not what happened.

Bond sucks because he was gettable relative to Trimble, and then next 3-4 Wisconsin guys will only end up at high majors as role players.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: WarriorPride68 on July 30, 2021, 02:49:09 PM
I knew we should have hired Dick Bennett instead of Shaka
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: WarriorPride68 on July 30, 2021, 04:47:39 PM
For last 5 years its felt like our actual Marquette season begins in July when TBT Golden Eagles show up and 40 year old Travis Diener does Travis Diener things
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: LAZER on July 30, 2021, 06:32:24 PM
Mostly the latter I think. Our program became a bottom feeder and reaching NCAA and finishing 6th in the conference had more or less become a pipe dream. It’ll take some time to rebuild. There were zero inroads developed with Trimble and Bond before Shaka got here.

The individual pieces will be sorted out in due time, but at the end of the day I’m confident MU will put out a much better product going forward.
So Shaka’s recruiting misses are Wojo’s fault now?
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: 79Warrior on July 30, 2021, 06:53:19 PM
Wonder if this an indication of Shaka's recruiting prowess or more an indication of the crappy image that Wojo-Dukiet put MU in for prospective recruits from MU's backyard. The 2022 recruiting class for Shaka is really crucial.

It is not an indication of anything. It’s recruiting. Win some, lose more. That is how it works.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: TSmith34 on July 30, 2021, 08:38:05 PM
Wonder if this an indication of Shaka's recruiting prowess or more an indication of the crappy image that Wojo-Dukiet put MU in for prospective recruits from MU's backyard. The 2022 recruiting class for Shaka is really crucial.
Uncle Rico is disappointed that you still haven't come up with a nickname for Shaka.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Newsdreams on July 30, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
So Shaka’s recruiting misses are Wojo’s fault now?
Slurper...
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: willie warrior on July 31, 2021, 04:05:18 AM
It is not an indication of anything. It’s recruiting. Win some, lose more. That is how it works.
Thank you. Hope that Shaka starts winning some from 2022 class soon.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: cheebs09 on July 31, 2021, 12:08:26 PM
I’m shaken, but not stirred about this one.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: We R Final Four on July 31, 2021, 01:03:46 PM
My only complaint on this one was SS telling Bond he could be the “hometown hero” if he came to MU.
A lot of kids don’t want to hear that….and subsequently go elsewhere.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: cheebs09 on July 31, 2021, 01:42:35 PM
My only complaint on this one was SS telling Bond he could be the “hometown hero” if he came to MU.
A lot of kids don’t want to hear that….and subsequently go elsewhere.

Or that’s something that mattered to him and a major reason why he considered MU. Shaka has been doing this awhile, I trust he knows what’s important to a recruit he spent this much time on.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: We R Final Four on July 31, 2021, 01:50:20 PM
Didn’t seem to matter all that much….if at all.
And perhaps it was pressure that he didn’t want.
Doubt we’ll ever know.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Scoop Snoop on July 31, 2021, 03:48:08 PM
My only complaint on this one was SS telling Bond he could be the “hometown hero” if he came to MU.
A lot of kids don’t want to hear that….and subsequently go elsewhere.

Or Shaka played a card that Bennett could not. When its a local coach in the midst of a total rebuild vs. a coach with a recent natty and a major ACC team, blaming Shaka as some scoopers have is disingenuous. I also suspect that Shaka's identifying Bond as a priority was just to stroke Bond's ego.

 
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: 79Warrior on July 31, 2021, 04:28:43 PM
Thank you. Hope that Shaka starts winning some from 2022 class soon.

He will get some.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Pakuni on August 02, 2021, 07:33:16 AM
Or Shaka played a card that Bennett could not. When its a local coach in the midst of a total rebuild vs. a coach with a recent natty and a major ACC team, blaming Shaka as some scoopers have is disingenuous. I also suspect that Shaka's identifying Bond as a priority was just to stroke Bond's ego.

Quite the spin zone.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: TAMU, the Wizard of MU Basketball on August 02, 2021, 08:46:51 AM
Or Shaka played a card that Bennett could not. When its a local coach in the midst of a total rebuild vs. a coach with a recent natty and a major ACC team, blaming Shaka as some scoopers have is disingenuous. I also suspect that Shaka's identifying Bond as a priority was just to stroke Bond's ego.

Bond was absolutely a priority. UVA won out.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: JakeBarnes on August 02, 2021, 10:47:44 AM
Bond was absolutely a priority. UVA won out.

100%. That said, it's hard to get local kids to stay local. It's an uphill battle for sure--part of going to college is getting out on your own for the first time. Playing 30 minutes down the street doesn't have that appeal.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: dgies9156 on August 02, 2021, 11:28:00 AM
Move on, gang.

The young man did what he thought was right for him. With this world of transfers, if Marquette was the right answer, maybe we will see him a year from now.

Either way, I can't say I blame him. Virginia is an ACC school that has a recent natty. We have a new coach, a new system and unknown prognosis. Our coach is well respected but he's yet to coach a single minute in the Big East. If I was a recruit, I might like and respect Shaka, but I would be leery until I saw the product on the floor.

With Bennett, what you see is what you get. With Shaka, you're betting at the margin this year.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: muwarrior69 on August 02, 2021, 11:56:37 AM
Bond was absolutely a priority. UVA won out.

Moser would had the kid signed, sealed and delivered. We undoubtedly hired the wrong coach.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: cheebs09 on August 02, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
It’s disappointing that it is a local recruit that seems to be very talented that we made a high priority.

I think I was more disappointed when I thought Shaka was the first to pursue him really hard and UVA came in later. After hearing that they were on him for 2 years, I’m pretty impressed Shaka got this close with him.

Honestly, recruiting is on the lower end of my worries and trust Shaka will get talent here. I’m much more interested how this team gels and progresses through the season.

I think we have a nice (albeit young) core. If Shaka can coach them up and they improve as the year goes on, a “slow” recruiting start won’t really worry me.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: Warrior of Law on August 02, 2021, 02:58:07 PM
In Shaka We Trust. Next man up.  There are no guarantees in recruiting, so you cast a wide net and hope for a few breaks.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on August 02, 2021, 09:46:27 PM
Is it bad if I say who? Hope Shaka gets me interested enough to follow recruiting closely again. Haven’t been this disconnected to Marquette hoops since before I went to Marquette.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: willie warrior on August 03, 2021, 05:26:08 AM
In Shaka We Trust. Next man up.  There are no guarantees in recruiting, so you cast a wide net and hope for a few breaks.
Ah yes. The wide net theory, fondly now called the Chief Brodie theory.
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: The Equalizer on August 03, 2021, 08:56:07 AM
In Shaka We Trust. Next man up.  There are no guarantees in recruiting, so you cast a wide net and hope for a few breaks.

Speaking of wide net, has anyone noticed how many offers Virginia Tech has put out?  According to 247, they have 75 offers outstanding for the class of 22. 

Maybe our problem is the relative lack of offers Shaka has made
Title: Re: Leon Bond vent thread
Post by: NCMUFan on August 03, 2021, 04:32:25 PM
I’m shaken, but not stirred about this one.
Bent but not broke?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoLtxWZkfnE