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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: 1SE on April 13, 2019, 09:54:51 AM

Title: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: 1SE on April 13, 2019, 09:54:51 AM
followed by a 3 seed the following year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

this story seems familiar... here's to hoping!
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: PVMagic on April 13, 2019, 09:58:23 AM
2nd in the Big East though.  A season like that will give both sides of the Wojo argument something to hold on to.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Hards_Alumni on April 13, 2019, 10:07:30 AM
followed by a 3 seed the following year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

this story seems familiar... here's to hoping!

A 3 seed may be too low, but I guess that's why we play the games.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Herman Cain on April 13, 2019, 12:18:57 PM
All of this is good stuff. Helpful to recruiting 2020 class.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 13, 2019, 12:31:32 PM
If we are a three seed next year I'd actually be disappointed
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: NickelDimer on April 13, 2019, 12:46:30 PM
If we are a three seed next year I'd actually be disappointed
That’s very dramatic. A 3 seed is never disappointing
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: BM1090 on April 13, 2019, 12:50:12 PM
That’s very dramatic. A 3 seed is never disappointing

Agreed. I'd sign up for a season where we were the 9th best team in the country right now.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2019, 12:59:51 PM
If we are a three seed next year I'd actually be disappointed

Uh ... no.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: williewarrior on April 13, 2019, 01:03:03 PM
If we are a three seed next year I'd actually be disappointed
How could we possibly be a 3 seed, given all the final 4 predictions already on this board, and some of the early pre season predictions of anywhere from 2 to 10 ranking. Sounds like we will be at most a 2 loss Beast team and at least a #1 seed. After all, we have Wojo and that huge upward trend so many think is happening.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: tower912 on April 13, 2019, 01:07:45 PM
Crapshoot.  I fully expect  MU to have a  2 game losing streak or lose 3 out of four at some point next year.   That is just the way of it.  And scoopies will lose their mind and you will magically appear after an extended silence.

 This could change, but today I would predict somewhere around a 26-5 regular season.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 13, 2019, 01:27:52 PM
Three seed means we put together a top 12 resume and would be tied for the highest seed since Al. No way that can be disappointing.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Dr. Blackheart on April 13, 2019, 01:43:54 PM
Three seed means we put together a top 12 resume and would be tied for the highest seed since Al. No way that can be disappointing.

The gold standard for top seeds is > 115 OE and < 95 DE. I am confident that the offense will be improved.  I am hopeful for the D. However, I would love a graduate transfer big.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 13, 2019, 01:49:04 PM
Three seed means we put together a top 12 resume and would be tied for the highest seed since Al. No way that can be disappointing.

See to me 3 seed means we didn't win the Big East. And if we did, we did not exactly win it in a convincing fashion, had a rough non con or the big east again was lackluster.

Till this year the Big East champion has been:

2018- 1 seed Xavier (2nd 1 seed Villanova)
2017- 1 seed Villanova (2nd 4 seed Butler)
2016- 2 seed Villanova (2nd 2 seed Xavier)
2015- 1 seed Villanova (2nd 4 seed Georgetown)
2014- 2 seed Villanova (2nd 3 seed Creighton)

Given that the Big East is supposed to rebound from being rough this year
If we don't win the Big East, that to me is a disappointment considering where we finished this year and what we return.

And if winning the Big East = 1 or 2 seed when the conference is good which it is supposed to be, then I would expect us to be a 1 or 2 seed. While rare, it's even happened where the 2nd place team has been a top 1 or 2 seed.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Marcus92 on April 13, 2019, 01:58:38 PM
Both Nova and MU get a 3 seed in this way-too-early-bracketology prediction. All that means to me is Lunardi isn't sure which team is better at this point -- and he doesn't see either as a top contender for the national title. But we've seen plenty of teams move up and down over the course of a season. Ultimately, the forecasts mean nothing. You've got to prove it on the court.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: TAMU Eagle on April 13, 2019, 03:07:29 PM
Honestly, I don't care about winning the Big East. Sure I'd enjoy it but if we're a top 3 seed I care about that more
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: NotAnAlum on April 13, 2019, 04:07:25 PM
With Markus back, solid help at guard and everybody a year older Im really hoping fir a 2 seed.  I think we're set up similarly to the way Tenn was this year.  Wojo could cosch here 10 more years and never have a team with as much experience as next years.  I realize we don't have access to the talent level to realistically hope for a #1 seed but if we were ever going to get a #2 next year would be the year.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: The Lens on April 13, 2019, 05:04:59 PM
I think you’re all missing the point. 

The last time we lost as a 5 and got a 3 the next year we did ok.

2002 —-> 2003
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Jay Bee on April 13, 2019, 05:49:05 PM
#crapshoot
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: NickelDimer on April 13, 2019, 06:07:22 PM
See to me 3 seed means we didn't win the Big East. And if we did, we did not exactly win it in a convincing fashion, had a rough non con or the big east again was lackluster
A 3 seed is a 3 seed is a 3 seed and its never disappointing period.
I think you’re all missing the point. 

The last time we lost as a 5 and got a 3 the next year we did ok.

2002 —-> 2003
I don’t think that point was lost on anyone
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: MU82 on April 13, 2019, 06:41:14 PM
I think you’re all missing the point. 

The last time we lost as a 5 and got a 3 the next year we did ok.

2002 —-> 2003

Not a soul here missed the point.
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Jay Bee on April 13, 2019, 07:12:42 PM
Not a soul here missed the point.

Wait... you believe in souls now?
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: MU82 on April 14, 2019, 05:43:04 AM
Wait... you believe in souls now?

Botha my feets has 'em
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: Galway Eagle on April 14, 2019, 05:44:06 AM
A 3 seed is a 3 seed is a 3 seed and its never disappointing period. 

disagree. it wasnt disappointing for 2012, 2013 we didnt expect to be there anyways. but as i said, if we win the BE and get a 3 itd disappoint me
Title: Re: 5 seed, 1st round exit...
Post by: willie warrior on April 14, 2019, 07:06:25 AM
Both Nova and MU get a 3 seed in this way-too-early-bracketology prediction. All that means to me is Lunardi isn't sure which team is better at this point -- and he doesn't see either as a top contender for the national title. But we've seen plenty of teams move up and down over the course of a season. Ultimately, the forecasts mean nothing. You've got to prove it on the court.
No shice! And we have not proven squat under Wojo yet. Oh wait...there is that losing 5 of last 6 at end of season. Which surely proves those upward trend prognostications.