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Title: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on September 22, 2008, 10:50:41 AM
Been a great season and it is ending with our 2nd consecutive division title, the first time we've won two in a row since 1908.
We finished first in the NL in runs, AVG and OBP.  Are pitching staff has three stud starters, a good number 4, as well as a world class bull pen.

Any one want to throw out some perdictions for october? 
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on September 22, 2008, 11:01:01 AM
typical Chicago frontrunner, supporting both teams. 

My dad grew up on the South Side.  He'd rather drink piss than cheer for the Cubs.  If you had any cajones, you'd pick one team.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on September 22, 2008, 11:05:54 AM
Did you read my other post?  Perhaps comepare the two?  I was making fun of southsiders like your dad.  And How is supporting both teams a 'typical chicago frontrunner' since NO ONE does that?  You really think your dad is special?  At least it seems like he was special enough to get drunk and drop you on your head as a baby like a typical southsider.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on September 22, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
typical Chicago frontrunner, supporting both teams. 

My dad grew up on the South Side.  He'd rather drink piss than cheer for the Cubs.  If you had any cajones, you'd pick one team.

I pick the Cubs, but I also enjoy seeing the Sox do well. I grew up watching both teams, and the Sox have a lot of quality, likeable guys. People like your father that have such a hatred for the Cubs are what creates the unnecessary bad blood. They play six times a year... get over it.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on September 22, 2008, 12:15:32 PM
Yeah, most the irrational hatred comes from people who carry shanks.

I'm not a north sider or south sider cause I grew up down town.  (312 baby, if you don't live in it then you might as well be in a subburb)  My mom and grandad are huge sox fans.  I talk a lot of crap but don't hate the other team. 
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on September 22, 2008, 05:09:23 PM
Did you read my other post?  Perhaps comepare the two?  I was making fun of southsiders like your dad.  And How is supporting both teams a 'typical chicago frontrunner' since NO ONE does that?  You really think your dad is special?  At least it seems like he was special enough to get drunk and drop you on your head as a baby like a typical southsider.

It takes a big man to insult my da anonymously.  He's proud south side irish, wishes you Pog Mo Toin.

I guess he's just old school....As are most of the real Chicagoans I know over 45.  He was a Chicago Cardinal fan and never liked the Bears either, even after the Cards left in 1960.  My cousins are all over the suburbs and are all loyal to  one team or the other.  NEVER BOTH!

I have been assured by my saintly mother that I was never dropped on my head.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on September 22, 2008, 08:14:16 PM
I assure you, I've put myself in considerable danger of being shanked on many occasions by making fun of southsiders in person.  Because that's what southsider do.  Shank people.  Sometimes widows, orphans and puppies.

Ok, so no one cheers for both teams.  So how would it be typical if someone decides to? 

People from the subburbs can't tell city kids what to do.  They don't even live where the teams play, tell them to take their rules and go hang out around 27th ave till they piss themselves.  Your cousins are like southsiders without a shank, useless.  Could they ride their bike to either field?  I'd place money on it that you don't know a person who grew up in 312 as it is currently defined.

Glad to hear about your head, i retract that portion of my previous post.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: spartan3186 on September 22, 2008, 09:10:56 PM
I just got the email from the Cubs and get to buy 2 tickets to the NLDS!!!! Hell yes bitches
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: robmufan on September 22, 2008, 09:27:25 PM
spartan,

have I ever told you how great of a friend you are to me?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: spartan3186 on September 22, 2008, 09:48:05 PM
Ha ha, get in line robmufan... its probably 30 people long already
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: spartan3186 on September 23, 2008, 12:50:08 PM
Just got my tickets! Game 2, Time TBD... Section 341 Row 3 (thats the upper section of the bleachers, they are reserved for the playoffs apparently)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: robmufan on September 24, 2008, 07:45:59 AM
as emailed to me by TallTitan,

If the brewers win the WC, it will be a night game most likely.

If the phillies/mets win it will be a day game
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on September 24, 2008, 09:57:42 AM
as emailed to me by TallTitan,

If the brewers win the WC, it will be a night game most likely.

If the phillies/mets win it will be a day game
You won't be playing the Brewers in the 1st round of the playoffs.  If the Wild Card comes from within the same division as the team with the best record then the Wild Card plays the team with the 2nd best record and the team with the best record plays the team with the third best record.  Teams from the same division can't play each other in the playoffs until the Championship Series.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: drewm88 on September 24, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
I don't think he's saying we'd play the Brewers. If the Brewers take the WC, we play the Dodgers (or possibly Arizona). Either way, that will most likely be a night game so it's not super early on the west coast.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on September 24, 2008, 10:46:02 AM
I don't think he's saying we'd play the Brewers. If the Brewers take the WC, we play the Dodgers (or possibly Arizona). Either way, that will most likely be a night game so it's not super early on the west coast.
Oh yeah makes sense
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on September 24, 2008, 03:35:16 PM
I assure you, I've put myself in considerable danger of being shanked on many occasions by making fun of southsiders in person.  Because that's what southsider do.  Shank people.  Sometimes widows, orphans and puppies.

Ok, so no one cheers for both teams.  So how would it be typical if someone decides to? 

People from the subburbs can't tell city kids what to do.  They don't even live where the teams play, tell them to take their rules and go hang out around 27th ave till they piss themselves.  Your cousins are like southsiders without a shank, useless.  Could they ride their bike to either field?  I'd place money on it that you don't know a person who grew up in 312 as it is currently defined.

Glad to hear about your head, i retract that portion of my previous post.

Typical of today's frontrunners...not old school Chicago.

We moved my grandmother out of 312 in 1971, right after her neighbor was shanked.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: spartan3186 on September 24, 2008, 05:36:54 PM
Hmmm heres hoping that the game is late... that way I can take the day off Friday and spend the night in Wrigleyville. I'd rather not take two days off... so I guess go Brewers
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: DegenerateDish on September 25, 2008, 03:28:58 PM
I'm a White Sox fan, but my first loyalty is towards the greenbacks. That said, the Cubs released more tickets for a potential Game 5 of the NLDS at 2:00 pm today.

I just went on cubs.com and got two standing room only tickets. Don't know how much longer they'll be there, but this is my gift to you Cubs fans.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on September 26, 2008, 06:13:04 PM
Typical of today's frontrunners...not old school Chicago.

We moved my grandmother out of 312 in 1971, right after her neighbor was shanked.

312 in 1971 was almost the entire city.  They redid the area codes in the early 90's.  Hold on checking WIKI...

Actually 96.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_312
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUEng92 on September 28, 2008, 07:35:25 PM
It looks like they have not announced game times for the first round.  Someone please tell me the two NL games won't be at the same time.  I am going to go out on a limb and guess that Fox would televise the Brewers in the Milwaukee market and not the Cubs games. >:(

Oh well, Pat and Ron have gotten me through the last several years, another few games couldn't hurt.

I think I will have to leave for work early tomorrow, because with all of the Brewers fans coming out of the woodwork today, the streets of SE Wisconsin could be crowded.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: reinko on September 28, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
It looks like they have not announced game times for the first round.  Someone please tell me the two NL games won't be at the same time.  I am going to go out on a limb and guess that Fox would televise the Brewers in the Milwaukee market and not the Cubs games. >:(

Oh well, Pat and Ron have gotten me through the last several years, another few games couldn't hurt.

I think I will have to leave for work early tomorrow, because with all of the Brewers fans coming out of the woodwork today, the streets of SE Wisconsin could be crowded.

All NLDS and ALDS games are on TBS, not Fox.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUEng92 on September 28, 2008, 08:35:03 PM
Well that blows.  Pat & Ron it is!

Thanks for the quick response though.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: IAmMarquette on September 28, 2008, 08:48:29 PM
Well that blows.  Pat & Ron it is!

Thanks for the quick response though.


I'm confused...do they not show TBS in Milwaukee?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: spartan3186 on September 28, 2008, 09:16:35 PM
I think he was referring to times overlapping between the Cubs and Brewers games... obviously in Milwaukee the Brewers will get TV preference over the Cubs
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on September 29, 2008, 11:26:17 AM
312 in 1971 was almost the entire city.  They redid the area codes in the early 90's.  Hold on checking WIKI...

Actually 96.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code_312

Where she lived is still 312....72nd and Crandon.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUEng92 on September 29, 2008, 12:05:22 PM
I think he was referring to times overlapping between the Cubs and Brewers games... obviously in Milwaukee the Brewers will get TV preference over the Cubs

No, you have to realize I am one of the 25 people in the United States that doesn't have cable or satellite, so I don't get TBS.  So, I was hoping (assuming) all of the playoff series were on Fox.

Sorry to confuse you.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on September 29, 2008, 07:14:45 PM
Where she lived is still 312....72nd and Crandon.

No, 72nd is not 312.  Read my wiki link.  The southern most street is 31st.   72nd is 5 miles south of that.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on October 01, 2008, 12:04:11 PM
This needs to be done.

THE LOS ANGELES DODGERS ARE EVIL AND MUST BE DESTROYED.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 01, 2008, 12:33:06 PM
This needs to be done.

THE LOS ANGELES DODGERS ARE EVIL AND MUST BE DESTROYED.

+1
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: muwarrior87 on October 01, 2008, 03:00:14 PM
Manny will be Manny and hit 3 game winning hits to knock the Cubs out after 4 games.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: jmayer1 on October 01, 2008, 05:17:33 PM
This needs to be done.

THE CHICAGO CUBS ARE EVIL AND MUST BE DESTROYED.

fixed :)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: DegenerateDish on October 01, 2008, 07:16:23 PM
Had to figure it was only a matter of time before Dempster got rocked by the Dodgers. He was just awful tonight.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Mayor McCheese on October 01, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
So should I act like Marqptm and try to hijack this thread to say something bad about the Cubs like he did to the Brewer thread.  Nope.

Although the Cubs have looked bad in this game, you guys have Big Z pitching game 2, things should look up


Oh by the way Marqptm, before you blast the Brewers, you should wait to see how your Cubs do, because personally the Cubs have looked just flat all night, worse then the Brewers, but both teams didn't look like their A game.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: robmufan on October 01, 2008, 09:46:41 PM
talk about beat up the NL central day...ouch!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 01, 2008, 11:32:01 PM
talk about beat up the NL central day...ouch!
Yeah no kidding.  I think both teams get wins tomorrow and split the 1st two.  Here's to hoping the Brewers steal one at home (one of the non-CC starts) and allow us to get to CC for a game 5.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: IAmMarquette on October 02, 2008, 01:36:01 AM
Yeah no kidding.  I think both teams get wins tomorrow and split the 1st two.  Here's to hoping the Brewers steal one at home (one of the non-CC starts) and allow us to get to CC for a game 5.


F that. The Crew has been great at home. Sweep the next three. I'm only half-joking.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 02, 2008, 01:39:36 AM

F that. The Crew has been great at home. Sweep the next three. I'm only half-joking.
I think we take tomorrow's game, lose game 3, and win the last 2.  It'll be tough going to Philli for a 5th game, but right now CC is the most dominant pitcher in baseball.  If we don't find our offense then we might get swept.  We'll see.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: AlumKCof93 on October 02, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
Cubs are in trouble.

The Dodgers have not been a good time for much of the year, but they really put it together the last month or so.  While Manny is obviously a huge part of that, Andre Ethier has been incredible of late and Furcal is capable of being great. IMO, not much of an upset if the Dodgers win the series, especially if Soriano continues to swing at everything.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on October 02, 2008, 09:43:10 PM
Two straight NLDS sweeps. Awesome.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 02, 2008, 09:45:31 PM
Two straight NLDS sweeps. Awesome.
Be happy to get there, some teams have to wait 26 years to experience even that (which is all we are going to experience):)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: IAmMarquette on October 03, 2008, 12:30:56 AM
Looks like the NL Central, even with the team with the best record in the NL, and the Wild Card, was a farce. Here's hoping our respective football teams (with the Packers ahead of the Bears, of course) can hold us over until basketball season starts.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 03, 2008, 08:16:24 AM
well, remember now, its baseball.

anything can happen in a 5 game series and I would certainly argue that a 182 game season is more idicative of a teams ability than a single DS series.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: JSwarriors08 on October 03, 2008, 09:35:23 AM
well, remember now, its baseball.

anything can happen in a 5 game series and I would certainly argue that a 182 game season is more idicative of a teams ability than a single DS series.

162
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUEng92 on October 03, 2008, 11:32:56 AM
Be happy to get there, some teams have to wait 26 years to experience even that (which is all we are going to experience):)

Happy to get there?  HAPPY TO GET THERE?  I was happy to get there in 1984 when I was a freshman in high school and I thought that it was the best thing ever that they made the playoffs.  Until they found a way to blow a 2-0 lead (even though they had crushed the Padres in the 2 games in Chicago) in a best of 5 series.  I was a little less happy to get there in 1989 when I had to listen to that @!#$&^ Will Clark hit home runs while sitting in the back of Calc III at MU.

After the "you know who" game in 2003 I actually had to go for a walk at 10:00 at night in my unlit subdivision because I thought my head would explode if I stayed home on my couch.

Sorry I am anything but Happy To Get There this year.  This is BS.  This is personal!  If anyone knows of a support group to stop being a sportsfan, please let me know.  I can't take this anymore.  I think I actually made up new swear words (at least new combinations of swear words) last night.  It has been 33 years for me and they just keep ripping my heart out.

HELP ME!  Maybe I should just be a Pirates fan.  At least they are consistant!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: tower912 on October 03, 2008, 11:44:09 AM
Root for the Lions.   Their pathetic play is eternal, without the maddening flashes of hope.      Turn out the lights, put up the stools, towel off the bar,  cubbies, it is closing time
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUEng92 on October 03, 2008, 12:02:14 PM
...without the maddening flashes of hope. 

That is music to my ears.  I think that my be my new slogan!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2008, 12:24:01 AM
Well we can officially end this topic...HAHAHA.  Was it PTM who used to have his signature as the Cubs fan sweeping?  Could you please find me a similar one just with a Dodgers fan instead of a Cubs one?  Ironic that you had that.  Gosh, the Brewers are playing later in the year than the Cubs are...WEIRD!

Anyway, I hear there is a party for all Cardinals, White Sox, and Brewers fans at Marquette next weekend officially celebrating a century.  You have to come dressed up as something important that has happened since the Cubs have won a World Series (so dress up as the Titanic or something).  Not sure where, but that's what's happening.  "Next year's our year!"

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/858119/choke_cubs_choke_go_cubs_go_parody/

Officially 100 years and counting:
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Tommy Brice for Coach on October 05, 2008, 12:44:10 AM
Happy to get there?  HAPPY TO GET THERE?  I was happy to get there in 1984 when I was a freshman in high school and I thought that it was the best thing ever that they made the playoffs.  Until they found a way to blow a 2-0 lead (even though they had crushed the Padres in the 2 games in Chicago) in a best of 5 series.  I was a little less happy to get there in 1989 when I had to listen to that @!#$&^ Will Clark hit home runs while sitting in the back of Calc III at MU.

After the "you know who" game in 2003 I actually had to go for a walk at 10:00 at night in my unlit subdivision because I thought my head would explode if I stayed home on my couch.

Sorry I am anything but Happy To Get There this year.  This is BS.  This is personal!  If anyone knows of a support group to stop being a sportsfan, please let me know.  I can't take this anymore.  I think I actually made up new swear words (at least new combinations of swear words) last night.  It has been 33 years for me and they just keep ripping my heart out.

HELP ME!  Maybe I should just be a Pirates fan.  At least they are consistant!

All you guys had to do is let a freaking goat into the ballpark all those years ago and you wouldn't be in this mess...  :D
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: spartan3186 on October 05, 2008, 01:23:28 AM
Brewers fans are really being dicks today. You have won ONE playoff game in 26 years. Congratulations. I know at least 15 Cubs fans who were at the game rooting for the Brewers today, myself included. Yet I get to the bar afterward and I get ripped on mercilessly by jackass Bewers fans for cheering on my team. It was very frustraing, I would think after 26 years of losing you would at least show a little class and not rip on people when they are already pissed about losing and dropping a deuce in the playoffs. Yes the Cubs sucked, most Cubs fans will acknowldge that. Let them fester in their own frustration rather than rubbing it in.

<Rant Off>
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUEng92 on October 05, 2008, 01:46:38 AM
Who knew that it was even possible to be an embarrassment to the uniform of a team that hasn't won a championship in 100+ years?

These guys found a way to do it!

Screw it, I am done with them and baseball!

(If only I could follow through with it)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Eye on October 05, 2008, 02:53:30 AM
Midnight Madness begins in 20 days, 15 hours and 8 minutes.



In all seriousness, would anybody else in baseball be dumb enough to take Soriano for 6 more years for $102 million? Theriot isn't a major-league shortstop. Lee isn't a No. 3 hitter anymore. Ramirez is a mini-Soriano. DeRosa is a 9th man, not a starter, on a World Series team. Would anybody else in baseball be willing to take Fukudome for 3 more years at $36 million? Dempster is lousy in a big spot (see his time as closer). God only knows what you're going to get out of Zambrano in a big spot. God only knows if Harden's arm will stay attached. Marquis is a circus every time he's out there.



The problem? Soriano, Lee, Ramirez, DeRosa, Fukudome, Zambrano and Harden are all locked up long term, and/or coming back because they're still under team control. This team needs a shakeup and a LEADER, someone who has more talent than Soriano and Ramirez that will get them to give a **** defensively, to run the bases properly, and put in the effort comisserate with their skills. I don't have any immediate suggestions who that is. Within the roster, Soto shows that potential, but is too young (unfortunately the two best free agents that could provide that are Pudge and Varitek, and both have deteriorating skills at a position where the Cubs have their best young player). Lee as I said just doesn't have the skills to be that guy. Maybe it's Wood, but it's hard for the closer to fill that role, too, due to the up-and-down nature of that job (Thanks for nothing Riggleman, Baylor and Baker).



It's like Randy Moss with the Raiders. He's the most talented player on the team, so no one can get him to play any better, and it won't be the coach very often in professional sports, even a manager who's won three World Series between his time as a player and coach. Moss is just fine as a complimentary player to Tom Brady in New England. Manny Ramirez is just fine as a relative complimentary player to Ortiz, Beckett and Schilling in Boston. The Cubs need someone with more talent as a player or more pull as a manager than Soriano and Ramirez have.



Yes, these players are few and far between, but look at the recent champions in professional sports. Talent and LEADERSHIP. Tim Duncan. Dwyane Wade. Shaquille O' Neal. Tom Brady. Peyton Manning. Albert Pujols. Derek Jeter. The Cubs need someone like that sooner rather than later. Easier said than done, but the current group of players aren't good enough to get it done in a pressure spot.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 05, 2008, 04:40:20 AM
Well we can officially end this topic...HAHAHA.  Was it PTM who used to have his signature as the Cubs fan sweeping?  Could you please find me a similar one just with a Dodgers fan instead of a Cubs one?  Ironic that you had that.  Gosh, the Brewers are playing later in the year than the Cubs are...WEIRD!

Anyway, I hear there is a party for all Cardinals, White Sox, and Brewers fans at Marquette next weekend officially celebrating a century.  You have to come dressed up as something important that has happened since the Cubs have won a World Series (so dress up as the Titanic or something).  Not sure where, but that's what's happening.  "Next year's our year!"

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/858119/choke_cubs_choke_go_cubs_go_parody/


Officially 100 years and counting:

Pure class.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mosarsour on October 05, 2008, 10:54:23 AM
There's no sense in rubbing it in. The Cubs got swept by the hottest team in baseball and there's no shame in that. As a life long Brewers fan, just making it to the post season is an amazing feat. I was 5 years old in 1982 and I really thought that we would never see playoff baseball in Milwaukee ever again. I'm amazed by the accomplishments of the Brewers this season and truly believe that 2008 has already been a magical year for Brewers fans. Although Cubs fans have had to wait a century to win a World Series, it will always trump a team that has NEVER won a World Series.

I agree that watching the Cubs get swept is probably great news for the anti-Cubs fans, but the one thing I'm pretty sure about is that the Cubs will always field a more competitive team than the Brewers year in and year out...as is usually the case when comparing a small market franchise to the Chicago's, the New York's, the Boston's and the Los Angeles' of the sports world.

It's was a huge loss for Cubs fans but only a minor victory for us Brewers fans. No sense in rubbing it in. Now let's hope Suppan pitches his a$$ off today and send this thing back to Phily!!!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: farmdaddy on October 05, 2008, 11:57:42 AM
101 is my new favorite number!!!!!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Blackhat on October 05, 2008, 12:54:14 PM
There's no sense in rubbing it in. The Cubs got swept by the hottest team in baseball and there's no shame in that. As a life long Brewers fan, just making it to the post season is an amazing feat. I was 5 years old in 1982 and I really thought that we would never see playoff baseball in Milwaukee ever again. I'm amazed by the accomplishments of the Brewers this season and truly believe that 2008 has already been a magical year for Brewers fans. Although Cubs fans have had to wait a century to win a World Series, it will always trump a team that has NEVER won a World Series.

I agree that watching the Cubs get swept is probably great news for the anti-Cubs fans, but the one thing I'm pretty sure about is that the Cubs will always field a more competitive team than the Brewers year in and year out...as is usually the case when comparing a small market franchise to the Chicago's, the New York's, the Boston's and the Los Angeles' of the sports world.

It's was a huge loss for Cubs fans but only a minor victory for us Brewers fans. No sense in rubbing it in. Now let's hope Suppan pitches his a$$ off today and send this thing back to Phily!!!

They may usually be better than the Brewers because of payroll but watching their incompetence is somewhat entertaining.   Everybody stops and watches a train wreck. 
(http://apudgeisasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/cubs-fans.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 05, 2008, 01:35:04 PM
In the end, people who legitimately take joy out of other peoples failures and unhapiness are misearable, unhappy people...and most likely failures themselves.

Karma is a bitch.

Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Cooby Snacks on October 05, 2008, 02:14:49 PM
In the end, people who legitimately take joy out of other peoples failures and unhapiness are misearable, unhappy people...and most likely failures themselves.

Karma is a bitch.



Or maybe those happy that the Cubs lost are acting in response to the endless boorish behavior of certain Cubs fans, who spent the better part of this summer going out of their way to needle Brewers fans whenever possible.  Of course, those who could be deemed guilty of that on this board have gone ghost over the past couple days.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on October 05, 2008, 02:40:56 PM
1.) Bitching about payroll is as pathetic as being the last pick in dodgeball.

2.) You do realize the Brewers are in the top third of baseball payrolls, and I'm sure CC put them even higher for those games.

3.) The Dodgers have been the hottest team, but the Cubs had their fate in their hands. Beat the Brewers for the final game and face the Mets.

On that note, great seasons for all Illini/Wisco teams. Hopefully, the Sox can keep trudging.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu_hilltopper on October 05, 2008, 02:57:53 PM
I dunno, Cooby.  If a Cubs fan utters "Karma is a bitch" you should take them seriously.   They supremely know.  It's their wheelhouse.  

Karma is a bitch,
Population: Chicago
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 05, 2008, 02:59:45 PM
Or maybe those happy that the Cubs lost are acting in response to the endless boorish behavior of certain Cubs fans, who spent the better part of this summer going out of their way to needle Brewers fans whenever possible.  Of course, those who could be deemed guilty of that on this board have gone ghost over the past couple days.

Well, wasn't that the entire point of the Cubs/Brewers Pissing Match Thread?  Sure seemd like the needling went both ways all season long.

Anyway, huge congratulations to the Brewers for their first playoff win in 26 years.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Cooby Snacks on October 05, 2008, 03:49:23 PM
I dunno, Cooby.  If a Cubs fan utters "Karma is a bitch" you should take them seriously.   They supremely know.  It's their wheelhouse.  

Karma is a bitch,
Population: Chicago

I'm Catholic.  I don't believe in karma.  Or curses.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 05, 2008, 03:55:33 PM
Anyway, huge congratulations to the Brewers for their first playoff win in 26 years.
Down to zero years :).

Cubs are at 5.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Mayor McCheese on October 05, 2008, 06:25:21 PM
Brewers fans are really being dicks today. You have won ONE playoff game in 26 years. Congratulations. I know at least 15 Cubs fans who were at the game rooting for the Brewers today, myself included. Yet I get to the bar afterward and I get ripped on mercilessly by jackass Bewers fans for cheering on my team. It was very frustraing, I would think after 26 years of losing you would at least show a little class and not rip on people when they are already pissed about losing and dropping a deuce in the playoffs. Yes the Cubs sucked, most Cubs fans will acknowldge that. Let them fester in their own frustration rather than rubbing it in.

<Rant Off>

Maybe its just Brewer fans exhaling after a year of hearing that this was the one, by the media, fans, everyone in baseball. 

What did the Cubs manage to do, not play competitive throughout the playoffs.  Maybe we also rub it in because Cubs fans infiltrate our building and act like they own the place.  Ever think of that one?  It's Milwaukee, not Chicago, you want a Cubs lovefest, go to Wrigleyville, you want to be heckled for losing, come to Milwaukee

This would be like if a Yankees fan would be upset by going into Beantown and not understanding why they are being booed out of the bars.  Give me a break.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on October 05, 2008, 09:44:47 PM
Except it would be different if Fenway was filled with Yanks fans. Since that doesn't happen, your logic fails.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Mayor McCheese on October 05, 2008, 10:14:21 PM
Except it would be different if Fenway was filled with Yanks fans. Since that doesn't happen, your logic fails.

Still doesn't change the fact that you are upset to be heckled in Milwaukee when you are a Cubs fan.  If I strutted around Wrigleyville with Brewers apparel on, I would hope that someone would say something to me, thats what is suppose to happen.


But this is becoming off topic.. this is the playoff thread.

Is Lou out of touch?  When asked after game 2 why the players aren't playing to their potential his answer was "I don't know why, I am just the manager".

Honestly, there is no reason why you were swept out of the playoffs.  The team looked tight, didn't play with the mentality that was throughout the season.

Also, holy crap Wrigley fans get off your teams back, I get it, you haven't won in a while, but watching game 1, Cubs up 2-0, Dodgers hit a grand slam, and the fans threw the team under the bus.  It was the 5th inning, only down 2, I have seen the Cubs come back, but the fans weren't behind the team, which kills any sort of home field advantage.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on October 05, 2008, 10:19:59 PM
Oh, that's the point. I don't mind getting heckled at Miller Park. I have come to enjoy it actually. Nothing beats out heckling Wisconsin because it always comes back as "oh yeah... Is that right?.... Well... Um.... GO PACKERS." In which I then agree and discuss how Aaron Kampman is severly underappreciated.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: farmdaddy on October 06, 2008, 12:13:53 AM
Or maybe those happy that the Cubs lost are acting in response to the endless boorish behavior of certain Cubs fans, who spent the better part of this summer going out of their way to needle Brewers fans whenever possible.  Of course, those who could be deemed guilty of that on this board have gone ghost over the past couple days.

+101
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Eye on October 06, 2008, 03:30:52 AM
"If I strutted around Wrigleyville with Brewers apparel on, I would hope that someone would say something to me, thats what is suppose to happen"

I live in La Crosse and went to the Cubs - Brewers game at Wrigley Sept. 18. 9 Brewers fans; 3 Cubs fan in the van. There were probably 8,000 Brewers fans there that day. I didn't hear one single solitary soul that day give a Brewers fan grief despite it working the other way a lot.

What most Brewers fans fail to realize is that most Cubs fans don't hate the Brewers; they hate the Cardinals, White Sox and Mets much more. It's not a rivalry unless both sides think it is, and in this case, the Brewers fans see it as a rivalry, most Cubs fans see it as another game.


Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: robmufan on October 06, 2008, 07:36:53 AM
Wasn't there another thread for all this talk about brewers fans and cubs fans?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 06, 2008, 08:38:42 AM
IMO Philly was 'hotter' than the Dodgers.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: chapman on October 06, 2008, 10:31:02 AM
What most Brewers fans fail to realize is that most Cubs fans don't hate the Brewers; they hate the Cardinals, White Sox and Mets much more. It's not a rivalry unless both sides think it is, and in this case, the Brewers fans see it as a rivalry, most Cubs fans see it as another game.

You might want to remind a lot of Cubs fans of that.  I have spoken to too many "Cubs fans" on campus who think the Brewers, and not the Cardinals,  are their most hated hated rival.  If they don't know who their biggest rival is they are not true Cubs fans.  It's supposed to be similar to how UW-Madison gets excited to play their "hated rival" Michigan, but UM only gives a damn about Ohio State.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 06, 2008, 11:11:06 AM
You might want to remind a lot of Cubs fans of that.  I have spoken to too many "Cubs fans" on campus who think the Brewers, and not the Cardinals,  are their most hated hated rival.  If they don't know who their biggest rival is they are not true Cubs fans.  It's supposed to be similar to how UW-Madison gets excited to play their "hated rival" Michigan, but UM only gives a damn about Ohio State.

Any reasonably long-time Cubs fan does not consider the Brewers their most hated rival....it's not even close....we've been through this before.  They might be a distant third today because of the last 2 years.    You cannot replace a rivalry that started in the 19th Century (with the Cardinals) or an intra-city rivalry with the White Sox that has divided the city for well over a century.  It's exactly similar to UW-Madison/Michigan, DePaul/Marquette, etc...one team's fan base puts a lot more weight on it.  In order for a rivaly to be true there has to be a long history and both fan bases have to want to passionately beat the other team....simply not there with the Brewers.



Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 06, 2008, 08:04:40 PM
The Cubs were the only team to make the playoffs and not win a game in them.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 06, 2008, 08:23:18 PM
The Cubs were the only team to make the playoffs and not win a game in them.

Were you just able to figure that out?  Glad to see that MU education paying off.

The Brewers have won 1 playoff game in 26 years and have not won their division during that same period.  Enjoy that roster next year....back to oblivion and national irrelevance....larger inferiority complex ensues.

BTW, the Cubs also have not won the WS in 100 years....and we landed on the moon.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 06, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
BTW, the Cubs also have not won the WS in 100 years....and we landed on the moon.
Thank you for the costume idea for dressing up as something important that happened since the Cubs last won the World Series, I'll be Neil Armstrong :).

And if I am, as you seem to be implying, not very bright, and we received an education from the same institution, and assuming you've already graduated from Marquette and their admissions standards are becoming tougher and tougher and I am currently at Marquette, what does that say about how smart you are?

The Brewers have 1 win in the last year in the playoffs, and the Cubs have 0 in the past 5 years.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 06, 2008, 09:42:10 PM
Thank you for the costume idea for dressing up as something important that happened since the Cubs last won the World Series, I'll be Neil Armstrong :).

And if I am, as you seem to be implying, not very bright, and we received an education from the same institution, and assuming you've already graduated from Marquette and their admissions standards are becoming tougher and tougher and I am currently at Marquette, what does that say about how smart you are?

The Brewers have 1 win in the last year in the playoffs, and the Cubs have 0 in the past 5 years.

Do you enjoy dressing up?  Have you talked to anyone on/around campus about this?  Sounds like quite a party.  Times have certainly changed at MU...when guys are dressing up in costume to party together we've got a problem.  Frickin Campus Circle Project.  This is exactly why we need more bars back on campus.

What would you dress up as to signify something of importance that happenend since the Brewers last won the World Series?  The Black Hole, a desert, a mime, Aaron Rodgers?  How does one dress up as nothing? (note, I did not say 'in nothing' contrary to how you and your dress up pals may prefer)  You're apparently a very smart young fella (as evidenced by your high school transcript), I'm sure you'll come up with something....afterall, your ACT score was probably way better than the national average.

I was actually complimenting you on taking advantage of the resources available to you at MU by developing new skills....fantastic deductive analysis....albeit a little slow, but you got there.  Good to see my donations paying off.

BTW, are you honestly gloating over the Brewers losing a series 3-1?  Their first playoff appearance in 26 years (most likely the only of your lifetime)....to the fans of the team that you finished 7.5 games behind in the division?  There's no denying the Cubs postseason futility but, man, it might be time to shut down that wireless connection for the night and crack the books so you can maintain that sparkling IQ....don't let your brains go to your head (you can use that one if you'd like)...stay humble.





Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 06, 2008, 10:38:36 PM
stay humble.
Will do, brah!  Get worked up a bit why don't you?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 06, 2008, 11:34:35 PM
Will do, brah!  Get worked up a bit why don't you?

High school debate tactics 101....hilarious.

Don't get hurt patting yourself on the back...maybe that deductive analysis compliment was premature.  That's disappointing. "Worked up"...as one who explicitly keeps things light you should know better....exactly the opposite actually, just having a good laugh....bro. (btw, that's 'brah' v1.0)

Have fun dressing up with your buddies.  :)

Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on October 07, 2008, 06:42:48 AM
Any reasonably long-time Cubs fan does not consider the Brewers their most hated rival....it's not even close....we've been through this before.  They might be a distant third today because of the last 2 years.    You cannot replace a rivalry that started in the 19th Century (with the Cardinals) or an intra-city rivalry with the White Sox that has divided the city for well over a century.  It's exactly similar to UW-Madison/Michigan, DePaul/Marquette, etc...one team's fan base puts a lot more weight on it.  In order for a rivaly to be true there has to be a long history and both fan bases have to want to passionately beat the other team....simply not there with the Brewers.





According to RawDog, there is no problem with being a Cub fan and a Sox fan simultaneously.  I always thought differently, based on family members who grew up in Chicago.

But then, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway..........
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: JSwarriors08 on October 07, 2008, 07:40:49 AM
According to RawDog, there is no problem with being a Cub fan and a Sox fan simultaneously.  I always thought differently, based on family members who grew up in Chicago.

But then, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway..........

Apparently there are a lot of Cubs fans that feel this way.  When the sox won the series in '05 you wouldn't believe how quickly the Cubs hats disappeared and the sox caps came out.  Not making an insult, just stating an observation I made here on campus.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 07, 2008, 07:55:50 AM
Do you enjoy dressing up?  Have you talked to anyone on/around campus about this?  Sounds like quite a party.  Times have certainly changed at MU...when guys are dressing up in costume to party together we've got a problem.  Frickin Campus Circle Project.  This is exactly why we need more bars back on campus.

What would you dress up as to signify something of importance that happenend since the Brewers last won the World Series?  The Black Hole, a desert, a mime, Aaron Rodgers?  How does one dress up as nothing? (note, I did not say 'in nothing' contrary to how you and your dress up pals may prefer)  You're apparently a very smart young fella (as evidenced by your high school transcript), I'm sure you'll come up with something....afterall, your ACT score was probably way better than the national average.

I was actually complimenting you on taking advantage of the resources available to you at MU by developing new skills....fantastic deductive analysis....albeit a little slow, but you got there.  Good to see my donations paying off.

BTW, are you honestly gloating over the Brewers losing a series 3-1?  Their first playoff appearance in 26 years (most likely the only of your lifetime)....to the fans of the team that you finished 7.5 games behind in the division?  There's no denying the Cubs postseason futility but, man, it might be time to shut down that wireless connection for the night and crack the books so you can maintain that sparkling IQ....don't let your brains go to your head (you can use that one if you'd like)...stay humble.







the difference here was expectations.  The Cubs were expected to get to the WS if not win it, and the Brewers in the last days of the season weren't expected to pull it together and even make the playoffs.

and then the Cubs get swept (with two games at home no less) and the Brewers play 'okay'.

What you may not understand is that in Milwaukee, we are HAPPY just to sniff the post season... it was a WIN for us.

You can't say that about your Cubs.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on October 07, 2008, 09:12:31 AM
Do you enjoy dressing up?  Have you talked to anyone on/around campus about this?  Sounds like quite a party.  Times have certainly changed at MU...when guys are dressing up in costume to party together we've got a problem.  Frickin Campus Circle Project.  This is exactly why we need more bars back on campus.

What would you dress up as to signify something of importance that happenend since the Brewers last won the World Series?  The Black Hole, a desert, a mime, Aaron Rodgers?  How does one dress up as nothing? (note, I did not say 'in nothing' contrary to how you and your dress up pals may prefer)  You're apparently a very smart young fella (as evidenced by your high school transcript), I'm sure you'll come up with something....afterall, your ACT score was probably way better than the national average.

I was actually complimenting you on taking advantage of the resources available to you at MU by developing new skills....fantastic deductive analysis....albeit a little slow, but you got there.  Good to see my donations paying off.

BTW, are you honestly gloating over the Brewers losing a series 3-1?  Their first playoff appearance in 26 years (most likely the only of your lifetime)....to the fans of the team that you finished 7.5 games behind in the division?  There's no denying the Cubs postseason futility but, man, it might be time to shut down that wireless connection for the night and crack the books so you can maintain that sparkling IQ....don't let your brains go to your head (you can use that one if you'd like)...stay humble.







This is why I like the Cubs team and players and manager, but hate Cub Fans.   Marquette Fan 94...did you wear your Sox hat last night?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: 🏀 on October 07, 2008, 09:32:51 AM
This is why I like the Cubs team and players and manager, but hate Cub Fans.   Marquette Fan 94...did you wear your Sox hat last night?

I was hoping the Sox would pull it off, does that make me a terrible fan?

Sweet avatar.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: LON on October 07, 2008, 09:47:18 AM
Apparently there are a lot of Cubs fans that feel this way.  When the sox won the series in '05 you wouldn't believe how quickly the Cubs hats disappeared and the sox caps came out.  Not making an insult, just stating an observation I made here on campus.


I wholeheartedly agree with that.  But after watching how the Cubs blew away that series (you can't honestly still think it was Bartman's fault) I kind of expected it.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 10:01:54 AM
This is why I like the Cubs team and players and manager, but hate Cub Fans.   Marquette Fan 94...did you wear your Sox hat last night?

Nah, don't own one....I actually hope they lose every game they play as they are a true rival of the Cubs.  Did you wear YOUR Sox hat last night?  Seems to be just as logical of a question.

I don't suppose you read wadesworld's original message taunting Cubs fans after losing to the Dodgers, right? 
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 10:05:29 AM
According to RawDog, there is no problem with being a Cub fan and a Sox fan simultaneously.  I always thought differently, based on family members who grew up in Chicago.

But then, it doesn't really matter anymore anyway..........

Well, I have to respectfully disagree with RawDog then....and why wouldn't it matter anymore...because both teams are eliminated?  Makes sense....I guess both sides can pull for the other now going forward....just throw away the generations worth of rivalry....something we can't expect Milwaukee residents to understand.  The point was that Cub fans do not consider the Brewers their most hated rivalry....it's not even close....not even worthy of a conversation.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 10:06:37 AM
What you may not understand is that in Milwaukee, we are HAPPY just to sniff the post season... it was a WIN for us.


That says it all.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on October 07, 2008, 10:58:30 AM
Note: at no point in time did i say I was a sox fan.  I don't own a sox hat. I have one shirt that has a small sox logo on it (along with a ton of other stuff)that i got for free during a 5k.  I don't watch their games, I can't name their starting rotation and i won't celebrate when they win.

You said that a typical Chicagoan cheers for both but that not a single one you know does that.  I was pointing how stupid that was.

But why should i hate them?  Why should I cheer for the red sox or rays?  so that my mom and grandparents can be miserable?  If someone wants to be a fan of both teams I don't have a problem with it as long as they are a fan of both all year every year(as my mom is with cubs/sox).  I grew up cheering for the steelers as well as the bears. Does that make me a front runner?  That is stupid, they didn't win a championship in the 90's when i started watching them.
I have no loyalty to any football school and pick a new one every few years based on who has players i like (the last 3 years has been Clemson, before it was cool, if the bears didn't have forte I'd be really excited about their chances of picking up either rb).  Does that make me a front runner?  In general i'll root for any small school over a big program.  So now I'm a back runner?  And i always want the big ten to lose so i guess i do hate things that suck.  So what kind of runner is that?  A front stomper?
You have too many rules.  Sometimes you (and many others) forget that sports is supposed to be fun.  One of my best friends is from pilwaukee and a packer/brewer fan.  When we all go out to watch a game (not involving the afore mentioned $h!t stains) she cheers and cheers with us for our team.  You would have her sit in a corner and pout because that is what real fans do?  Because being a sports fan means making yourself miserable 95% of the time when your team isn't winning a championship? 
You are an elitist and a silly one at that.  And you don't know anyone from my area code.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 07, 2008, 11:20:23 AM
That says it all.

that you don't understand?  exactly!  Thanks!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 11:32:40 AM
That's correct....I cannot understand how the fine folks of Milwaukee are happy only to sniff the playoffs (or the yeast, tannery and other fine scents of the city).  I guess if you set the bar low happiness comes easier.  As a Cubs fan, I wish we would have thought about that years ago.   :)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 07, 2008, 12:06:44 PM
That's correct....I cannot understand how the fine folks of Milwaukee are happy only to sniff the playoffs (or the yeast, tannery and other fine scents of the city).  I guess if you set the bar low happiness comes easier.  As a Cubs fan, I wish we would have thought about that years ago.   :)
Maybe as a Cubs fan you SHOULD lower the bar.  Every year is your year, and every year it's going to happen, yet it's been 100 years since it has happened.  You haven't won a postseason game in 5 years.

Again, people always try to rip on the city of Milwaukee.  You don't have to be a fan of Wisconsin sports to come here for college, but I don't understand why some of you willingly come to Milwaukee to go to school while making it sound like Milwaukee is such a bad, unhappy, dirty city with nothing to do and the whole population is a$$holes.  Doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 01:54:09 PM
Maybe as a Cubs fan you SHOULD lower the bar.  Every year is your year, and every year it's going to happen, yet it's been 100 years since it has happened.  You haven't won a postseason game in 5 years.

Again, people always try to rip on the city of Milwaukee.  You don't have to be a fan of Wisconsin sports to come here for college, but I don't understand why some of you willingly come to Milwaukee to go to school while making it sound like Milwaukee is such a bad, unhappy, dirty city with nothing to do and the whole population is a$$holes.  Doesn't make sense to me.

I guess that why I said it....along with a little self-deprecating humor (hence the smiley).  BTW, there are 10 MLB Teams that have not won a playoff game in the last 5 years.  The Cubs have won the NL Central 3 times during that period including winning a postseason series....admittedly nothing to be overly proud of.

There is 1 team in MLB that has not won their division in the last 26 years......one.......the Milwaukee Brewers. 

You should thank Selig for the wild card....and for buying the Pilots.

We've been through the Milwaukee thing countless times also....great town to live for 4 college years, great memories and experience....then it's back to civilization...like 40-45% of the MU student body.

Get worked up why don't you.  :)
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 07, 2008, 02:28:04 PM
I guess that why I said it....along with a little self-deprecating humor (hence the smiley).  BTW, there are 10 MLB Teams that have not won a playoff game in the last 5 years.  The Cubs have won the NL Central 3 times during that period including winning a postseason series....admittedly nothing to be overly proud of.

There is 1 team in MLB that has not won their division in the last 26 years......one.......the Milwaukee Brewers. 

You should thank Selig for the wild card....and for buying the Pilots.

We've been through the Milwaukee thing countless times also....great town to live for 4 college years, great memories and experience....then it's back to civilization...like 40-45% of the MU student body.

Get worked up why don't you.  :)
Haha I didn't write a novel on how it is wrong for guys to dress up for a theme party...
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: drewm88 on October 07, 2008, 02:36:40 PM
Every year is your year, and every year it's going to happen

Correct. 2009 is our year. It's gonna happen. Look out.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on October 07, 2008, 02:42:59 PM
I was hoping the Sox would pull it off, does that make me a terrible fan?

Sweet avatar.

Real old school Chicagoans would say yes.  Real Cub fans root against the Sox and vice versa.  Old School is over 43 years old.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 02:45:56 PM
Haha I didn't write a novel on how it is wrong for guys to dress up for a theme party...

Come on now, it was more like a couple sentences...you should've learned the difference in Eng 101 by now....maybe that ACT score wasn't so high.  :)

More high school debate 101 from you...nicely done.  When unable to refute facts, ignore and try to divert attention and change course....it's weak, but an action nonetheless....there's hope for you yet.  

Have fun sniffing the tannery and dressing up with your buddies.  ;)

Get worked up....



Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 02:51:47 PM
Real old school Chicagoans would say yes.  Real Cub fans root against the Sox and vice versa.  Old School is over 43 years old.

I don't think there's anything old school about it actually....there are plenty of kids being brought up to dislike the Cubs or Sox...I forgot who said it earlier, in a lot of cases it's a family thing.  I grew up cheering for both and could name the '83 White Sox starting line-up in a heartbeat....but was always Cubs first.  For me, and a lot of my friends, the real hatred happened with the beginning of interleague play....there was always the exhibition cross-town classic but when the games counted and the Sox fans started turning up at Wrigley....that's when things really bacame divisive in Chicago.

There's no denying the 2005 White Sox were great for the city but it still made me ill.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on October 07, 2008, 02:59:07 PM
Note: at no point in time did i say I was a sox fan.  I don't own a sox hat. I have one shirt that has a small sox logo on it (along with a ton of other stuff)that i got for free during a 5k.  I don't watch their games, I can't name their starting rotation and i won't celebrate when they win.

You said that a typical Chicagoan cheers for both but that not a single one you know does that.  I was pointing how stupid that was.

But why should i hate them?  Why should I cheer for the red sox or rays?  so that my mom and grandparents can be miserable?  If someone wants to be a fan of both teams I don't have a problem with it as long as they are a fan of both all year every year(as my mom is with cubs/sox).  I grew up cheering for the steelers as well as the bears. Does that make me a front runner?  That is stupid, they didn't win a championship in the 90's when i started watching them.
I have no loyalty to any football school and pick a new one every few years based on who has players i like (the last 3 years has been Clemson, before it was cool, if the bears didn't have forte I'd be really excited about their chances of picking up either rb).  Does that make me a front runner?  In general i'll root for any small school over a big program.  So now I'm a back runner?  And i always want the big ten to lose so i guess i do hate things that suck.  So what kind of runner is that?  A front stomper?
You have too many rules.  Sometimes you (and many others) forget that sports is supposed to be fun.  One of my best friends is from pilwaukee and a packer/brewer fan.  When we all go out to watch a game (not involving the afore mentioned $h!t stains) she cheers and cheers with us for our team.  You would have her sit in a corner and pout because that is what real fans do?  Because being a sports fan means making yourself miserable 95% of the time when your team isn't winning a championship? 
You are an elitist and a silly one at that.  And you don't know anyone from my area code.

I said that the old school Chicagoans (anyone over say 43) do not find it acceptable at all to cheer for both the Sox and the Cubs.  I never said I don't know anyone who cheers for both teams.  I do know some.  They are called front runners, and there are increasing numbers of them.  They are weak.

Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 07, 2008, 03:06:39 PM
Come on now, it was more like a couple sentences...you should've learned the difference in Eng 101 by now....maybe that ACT score wasn't so high.  :)

More high school debate 101 from you...nicely done.  When unable to refute facts, ignore and try to divert attention and change course....it's weak, but an action nonetheless....there's hope for you yet.  

Have fun sniffing the tannery and dressing up with your buddies.  ;)

Get worked up....
Damn you're clever.  You have no idea what my ACT score was.  You also have me beat, I am unable to refute facts about...getting dressed up?  There are facts about that?  Alright, then I apologize for not researching hard enough.  I am very worked up now that I have to research facts about what is wrong with theme parties.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 07, 2008, 03:33:37 PM
Damn you're clever.  You have no idea what my ACT score was.  You also have me beat, I am unable to refute facts about...getting dressed up?  There are facts about that?  Alright, then I apologize for not researching hard enough.  I am very worked up now that I have to research facts about what is wrong with theme parties.

First, thanks for the acknowledgement.  At such a ripe age, to be able to man-up to that will serve you very well down the road.  You're right, I do not know your ACT score....all I can gather is that, based on MU's increasingly stringent admission requirements, you are undoubtedly very intelligent, perhaps even more so than some guy like me who graduated from MU in the past...as you informed all of us.

If you're unable to glean which facts I'm referring to after re-reading my very well crafted message then, I'm sorry, I have put too much stock in your debating ability it appears....where do our donation dollars go?  Sigh.

Hint, it had little-to-nothing to do with these dress-up/theme parties you're so hung up on....
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 07, 2008, 07:27:29 PM
Hint, it had little-to-nothing to do with these dress-up/theme parties you're so hung up on....
Again, you're the one who spent a good 2 paragraphs explaining why these are wrong.  This is the only one I would ever consider going to, as it would just be fun to make fun of Cubs fans, as it is on here.

At any rate, yes, I will gloat about our 1 win in the past 26 years in the playoffs, because that 1 win came this year, whereas the Cubs have 0 wins in the past 5 years.  So yes, you have had more success than the Brewers in your franchise, but you have also been around much longer.  As of recently we have had more postseason success, since we have a win in the last five years and you don't.  It's not like either team is producing World Series appearances year in and year out.  Your last World Series appearance was in 1948, or 60 years ago, before some of the people on this forum were born, and your last World Series championship was 100 years ago, or before I would guess everyone on this board was born.  Both of those dates come before the Milwaukee Brewers were even a franchise.  So go ahead, make the claim that "100 years ago is better than never," but nobody was around then, and neither were the Brewers, so for all of us it's never a championship for the Cubs.  The Milwaukee BREWERS have been in the World Series more recently too, in 1982, 34 years after the last Cubs World Series appearance.  The city of Milwaukee has seen a more recent World Series Champion in baseball than the Cubs have (1957 as the MILWAUKEE Braves), and made another appearance the year after that.  The White Sox won the World Series in 2005, so obviously the city of Chicago has seen a World Series Champion more recently, but the Cubs have not helped in that cause.  So if either of us is trying to claim that one of our teams is God's gift to baseball we'd be kidding ourselves.  Quite honestly, based on the highest achievement possible in baseball, both franchises suck.  So, I can have a little fun with the fact that we won a game in the playoffs this year and you didn't win one in the last 5 years after hearing all year, and all my life, about how superior the Cubs are to the Brewers, just like you could've for the previous 26 years.  Most recently we have had a better showing in the playoffs (1 win to 0 wins in favor of the Brewers this year), but neither team really blows people away with their postseason success.

Does that argument work?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Eye on October 08, 2008, 04:30:21 AM
Kind of hurts your argument when you don't site the correct year the Cubs last made the World Series ...
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 08, 2008, 10:01:34 AM
Again, you're the one who spent a good 2 paragraphs explaining why these are wrong.  This is the only one I would ever consider going to, as it would just be fun to make fun of Cubs fans, as it is on here.

At any rate, yes, I will gloat about our 1 win in the past 26 years in the playoffs, because that 1 win came this year, whereas the Cubs have 0 wins in the past 5 years.  So yes, you have had more success than the Brewers in your franchise, but you have also been around much longer.  As of recently we have had more postseason success, since we have a win in the last five years and you don't.  It's not like either team is producing World Series appearances year in and year out.  Your last World Series appearance was in 1948, or 60 years ago, before some of the people on this forum were born, and your last World Series championship was 100 years ago, or before I would guess everyone on this board was born.  Both of those dates come before the Milwaukee Brewers were even a franchise.  So go ahead, make the claim that "100 years ago is better than never," but nobody was around then, and neither were the Brewers, so for all of us it's never a championship for the Cubs.  The Milwaukee BREWERS have been in the World Series more recently too, in 1982, 34 years after the last Cubs World Series appearance.  The city of Milwaukee has seen a more recent World Series Champion in baseball than the Cubs have (1957 as the MILWAUKEE Braves), and made another appearance the year after that.  The White Sox won the World Series in 2005, so obviously the city of Chicago has seen a World Series Champion more recently, but the Cubs have not helped in that cause.  So if either of us is trying to claim that one of our teams is God's gift to baseball we'd be kidding ourselves.  Quite honestly, based on the highest achievement possible in baseball, both franchises suck.  So, I can have a little fun with the fact that we won a game in the playoffs this year and you didn't win one in the last 5 years after hearing all year, and all my life, about how superior the Cubs are to the Brewers, just like you could've for the previous 26 years.  Most recently we have had a better showing in the playoffs (1 win to 0 wins in favor of the Brewers this year), but neither team really blows people away with their postseason success.

Does that argument work?

I'll let the whole buddy dress-up/theme party thing die....let us know how that goes....this is another reason why we need football at MU.

I can appreciate your knowledge, attempt at research and the passion for your team.  Your argument gets a little watered down and off track when you start referencing the Milwaukee Braves and White Sox. 

You keep mentioning the last 5 years.  I would think that most people would say that the Cubs have been fairly successful by winning the NL Central 3 out of the last 6 years...including winning a playoff series...not just one game....do not take this as gloating....clearly, Cubs fans want/expect a lot more.  The Brewers are the only team in MLB to have not won their division in the last 26 years.

Getting back to my two original points. 
1) After a season-long pissing match thread there was absolutely no need to come into the Cubs Playoff page to taunt and ridicule Cubs fans (who were clearly distraught enough on our own)....that was childish and is what fueled this last round of garbage.

2) I still don't understand the gloating over losing a first round playoff series 3-1 (never will)...yes, the Cubs got swept....if that makes you feel better about the Brewers post-season performance, so be it....but gloating about it to the fans of the team that finished 7.5 games in front of you and won the division is a little ridiculous.  Winning one game in the first round playoff series and not advancing (in any major sport) is really nothing to get overly excited about....advancing to the next round?  Now that's another thing.  I could see where it was exciting since it happened in Milwaukee (with your backs against the wall down 0-2)....which had not happened in 26 years...there could/should be some enjoyment from that...but to gloat about it?

It would be like if Marquette and DePaul both made the NCAA Tournament this coming season and both lost in the first round....with the DePaul fans taunting us because they at least led by 10 at halftime and we trailed the entire game. They could argue that they performed better.  They've won 1 NCAA game in 20 years whereas we've been to a Final Four, Sweet Sixteen and have won 8 NCAA tournament games in 8 appearances with a couple conference titles during that time while DePaul has zero conference titles and 4 NCAA appearances.  Sure, all MU fans would prefer a National Championship to our relatively modest NCAA success...but to hear it from them?

I agree that neither team has set the benchmark for postseason success....hopefully that'll change some day.  There's nothing wrong with having a little fun....but there's no room for taunting/ridiculing the other side for a painful, season ending loss caused by another team.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2008, 10:43:21 AM
I'll let the whole buddy dress-up/theme party thing die....let us know how that goes....this is another reason why we need football at MU.

I can appreciate your knowledge, attempt at research and the passion for your team.  Your argument gets a little watered down and off track when you start referencing the Milwaukee Braves and White Sox. 

You keep mentioning the last 5 years.  I would think that most people would say that the Cubs have been fairly successful by winning the NL Central 3 out of the last 6 years...including winning a playoff series...not just one game....do not take this as gloating....clearly, Cubs fans want/expect a lot more.  The Brewers are the only team in MLB to have not won their division in the last 26 years.

Getting back to my two original points. 
1) After a season-long pissing match thread there was absolutely no need to come into the Cubs Playoff page to taunt and ridicule Cubs fans (who were clearly distraught enough on our own)....that was childish and is what fueled this last round of garbage.

2) I still don't understand the gloating over losing a first round playoff series 3-1 (never will)...yes, the Cubs got swept....if that makes you feel better about the Brewers post-season performance, so be it....but gloating about it to the fans of the team that finished 7.5 games in front of you and won the division is a little ridiculous.  Winning one game in the first round playoff series and not advancing (in any major sport) is really nothing to get overly excited about....advancing to the next round?  Now that's another thing.  I could see where it was exciting since it happened in Milwaukee (with your backs against the wall down 0-2)....which had not happened in 26 years...there could/should be some enjoyment from that...but to gloat about it?

It would be like if Marquette and DePaul both made the NCAA Tournament this coming season and both lost in the first round....with the DePaul fans taunting us because they at least led by 10 at halftime and we trailed the entire game. They could argue that they performed better.  They've won 1 NCAA game in 20 years whereas we've been to a Final Four, Sweet Sixteen and have won 8 NCAA tournament games in 8 appearances with a couple conference titles during that time while DePaul has zero conference titles and 4 NCAA appearances.  Sure, all MU fans would prefer a National Championship to our relatively modest NCAA success...but to hear it from them?

I agree that neither team has set the benchmark for postseason success....hopefully that'll change some day.  There's nothing wrong with having a little fun....but there's no room for taunting/ridiculing the other side for a painful, season ending loss caused by another team.

Alright fair enough, we can just have a difference of opinions.  Obviously with your supreme intelligence yours is correct, but that's not going to change mine.  Keep taking shots at my intelligence, maybe I'll change my opinoins.  I guess I find it alright because Cubs fans gloat about how much of a better team they are and yet they haven't done anything, and never do anything.  All year long all I've heard about is how bad the Brewers are compared to the Cubs and how unprofessional they are at the plate, but they did win a game in the playoffs, whereas the Cubs, professional approaches at the plate and all, failed to do so.  And their superior defense really paid off, with all 4 infielders having at least 1 error in Game 2.  So yes, the Cubs had more regular season success and won the division each of the last two years, but where did that get them?  Swept out of the playoffs in the first round both years.  So if you're embarrassed to have gone to the same school as people like me, then so be it.  I'm a terrible person for making fun of fans who have made fun of me my whole life.

Onto Marquette basketball for me
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu-rara on October 08, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
I'll let the whole buddy dress-up/theme party thing die....let us know how that goes....this is another reason why we need football at MU.

I can appreciate your knowledge, attempt at research and the passion for your team.  Your argument gets a little watered down and off track when you start referencing the Milwaukee Braves and White Sox. 

You keep mentioning the last 5 years.  I would think that most people would say that the Cubs have been fairly successful by winning the NL Central 3 out of the last 6 years...including winning a playoff series...not just one game....do not take this as gloating....clearly, Cubs fans want/expect a lot more.  The Brewers are the only team in MLB to have not won their division in the last 26 years.

Getting back to my two original points. 
1) After a season-long pissing match thread there was absolutely no need to come into the Cubs Playoff page to taunt and ridicule Cubs fans (who were clearly distraught enough on our own)....that was childish and is what fueled this last round of garbage.

2) I still don't understand the gloating over losing a first round playoff series 3-1 (never will)...yes, the Cubs got swept....if that makes you feel better about the Brewers post-season performance, so be it....but gloating about it to the fans of the team that finished 7.5 games in front of you and won the division is a little ridiculous.  Winning one game in the first round playoff series and not advancing (in any major sport) is really nothing to get overly excited about....advancing to the next round?  Now that's another thing.  I could see where it was exciting since it happened in Milwaukee (with your backs against the wall down 0-2)....which had not happened in 26 years...there could/should be some enjoyment from that...but to gloat about it?

It would be like if Marquette and DePaul both made the NCAA Tournament this coming season and both lost in the first round....with the DePaul fans taunting us because they at least led by 10 at halftime and we trailed the entire game. They could argue that they performed better.  They've won 1 NCAA game in 20 years whereas we've been to a Final Four, Sweet Sixteen and have won 8 NCAA tournament games in 8 appearances with a couple conference titles during that time while DePaul has zero conference titles and 4 NCAA appearances.  Sure, all MU fans would prefer a National Championship to our relatively modest NCAA success...but to hear it from them?

I agree that neither team has set the benchmark for postseason success....hopefully that'll change some day.  There's nothing wrong with having a little fun....but there's no room for taunting/ridiculing the other side for a painful, season ending loss caused by another team.


The reason for Milwaukee glee is we are tired of a season long pissing contest about how much better the Cubs are, and how much better Chicago is.  In my case it has much more to do with your smug attitude than about the Cubs.

I was a Cub fan before there were the Brewers.  I was a Cub fan when the Brewers were in the AL.  

Santo, Kessinger, Beckert and Banks, the infield third to first ( remember that call from Vince and Lou)

Let's go, BatterUp, we're taking the afternoon off....It's a beautiful day for a ballgame.......(The song leading into WGN Cub broadcasts)  My point is, I bear no ill will toward the Cubs...it is the smugness of the NEW fans.

Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 08, 2008, 11:21:01 AM
Onto Marquette basketball for me

I agree.



Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: tower912 on October 08, 2008, 11:22:42 AM
Wow, deja vu all over again.   I was a Cub fan until I arrived at MU in the autumn of 84 and met the hardcore.   I got so bleeping tired of listening to how the cubs were better than my Tigers, how Moreland was a better RF than Gibson, Bowa better than Trammel, Davis better than Parrish, etc., that I felt glee as the ball rolled through Durham's legs.    That feeling has never really left.   I had actually forgiven the cubs fans and were pulling for them until I saw how they handled Bartman.   Now, I feel their pain, but I just don't care.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 08, 2008, 11:40:54 AM
The reason for Milwaukee glee is we are tired of a season long pissing contest about how much better the Cubs are, and how much better Chicago is.  In my case it has much more to do with your smug attitude than about the Cubs.

I was a Cub fan before there were the Brewers.  I was a Cub fan when the Brewers were in the AL.  

Santo, Kessinger, Beckert and Banks, the infield third to first ( remember that call from Vince and Lou)

Let's go, BatterUp, we're taking the afternoon off....It's a beautiful day for a ballgame.......(The song leading into WGN Cub broadcasts)  My point is, I bear no ill will toward the Cubs...it is the smugness of the NEW fans.



I appreciate the Vince Lloyd and Lou Boudreaux reference...nicely done.  With success comes bandwagon fans...good and bad.  Those who have not endured a lifetime of Cubs futility don't get it and talk trash....that's when it blows up in their face and it makes others happy.  For those of us who have generations of Cubs fans in their family and remember their first game at Wrigley...and their grandfathers remember their first games, etc....it's painful.  So, when there's someone taking explicit enjoyment out of their failures (and does so on a Cubs Playoff Thread), it strikes a chord.  I think there's an unwritten rule amongst rivals where there can be as much back and forth, trash-talking etc. between the fans and enjoyment when one team beats the other....that's what makes a rivalry healthy....but piling on, ridiculing and taunting after a tough, season-ending loss is unnecessary....especially when we all have to live together during MU basketball season.

FWIW, I was also a Brewers fan growing up and remember watcing the '82 WS hoping they'd beat the Cardinals who, at the time, were probably our biggest rival.  I also enjoyed the Brewers beating the White Sox anytime they played.

Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 08, 2008, 12:24:28 PM
I appreciate the Vince Lloyd and Lou Boudreaux reference...nicely done.  With success comes bandwagon fans...good and bad.  Those who have not endured a lifetime of Cubs futility don't get it and talk trash....that's when it blows up in their face and it makes others happy.  For those of us who have generations of Cubs fans in their family and remember their first game at Wrigley...and their grandfathers remember their first games, etc....it's painful.  So, when there's someone taking explicit enjoyment out of their failures (and does so on a Cubs Playoff Thread), it strikes a chord.  I think there's an unwritten rule amongst rivals where there can be as much back and forth, trash-talking etc. between the fans and enjoyment when one team beats the other....that's what makes a rivalry healthy....but piling on, ridiculing and taunting after a tough, season-ending loss is unnecessary....especially when we all have to live together during MU basketball season.

FWIW, I was also a Brewers fan growing up and remember watcing the '82 WS hoping they'd beat the Cardinals who, at the time, were probably our biggest rival.  I also enjoyed the Brewers beating the White Sox anytime they played.



Translation: Boo Hoo.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 08, 2008, 12:37:05 PM
Translation: Boo Hoo.

Another in a series of well thought out, articulate and classy posts from you.

Keep setting that bar low...."happy just sniffing the playoffs."  Definitely one of the funnier lines I've heard in a while...nice work.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2008, 02:22:47 PM
Keep setting that bar low...."happy just sniffing the playoffs."  Definitely one of the funnier lines I've heard in a while...nice work.
Not really disagreeing, but when you haven't sniffed it in 26 years you have to start somewhere, so at this point I am just happy sniffing the playoffs.  If we sniff the playoffs for the next 2 years or whatever then maybe the bar will be raised, but this is the first time I've ever sniffed it, so yes I am satisfied.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: jmayer1 on October 08, 2008, 03:03:59 PM
I appreciate the Vince Lloyd and Lou Boudreaux reference...nicely done.  With success comes bandwagon fans...good and bad.  Those who have not endured a lifetime of Cubs futility don't get it and talk trash....that's when it blows up in their face and it makes others happy.  For those of us who have generations of Cubs fans in their family and remember their first game at Wrigley...and their grandfathers remember their first games, etc....it's painful.  So, when there's someone taking explicit enjoyment out of their failures (and does so on a Cubs Playoff Thread), it strikes a chord.  I think there's an unwritten rule amongst rivals where there can be as much back and forth, trash-talking etc. between the fans and enjoyment when one team beats the other....that's what makes a rivalry healthy....but piling on, ridiculing and taunting after a tough, season-ending loss is unnecessary....especially when we all have to live together during MU basketball season.

FWIW, I was also a Brewers fan growing up and remember watcing the '82 WS hoping they'd beat the Cardinals who, at the time, were probably our biggest rival.  I also enjoyed the Brewers beating the White Sox anytime they played.



this is bs, if most cubs fans (including you) didnt act like their sh*t didn't smell the few years they have actually been somewhat successful recently maybe so many other fan bases wouldn't rejoice when they eventually fall short in the postseason

as a cardinals fan first and foremost, i think it is really funny that there are so many cubs fans (not every one) that don't realize that the cubs are the second worst franchise in the nl central (of the teams currently in it) over the past 40 years, ahead of only the brewers
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 08, 2008, 03:35:41 PM
this is bs, if most cubs fans (including you) didnt act like their sh*t didn't smell the few years they have actually been somewhat successful recently maybe so many other fan bases wouldn't rejoice when they eventually fall short in the postseason

as a cardinals fan first and foremost, i think it is really funny that there are so many cubs fans (not every one) that don't realize that the cubs are the second worst franchise in the nl central (of the teams currently in it) over the past 40 years, ahead of only the brewers

Johnny Come Lately, you need to relax.  Classy language.  I have NEVER acted like the Cubs were entitled to anything and have actually avoided any talk of postseason success during any regular season understanding exactly where we've come from.  I think the Cubs lack of postseason success has been pretty well chronicled. Why don't you read more than two posts before you draw a uneducated opinion and single me out?

As a Cardinals fan, nobody wants/cares to hear from you here anyway.  Jimmy Edmonds catching the third out to clinch the division against the Cards was classic....as it is to hear him compare playing for the Cubs vs. playing in St. Louis.

Have you ever been to Wrigley for a Cubs/Cards game when the Cards won?  If so, you are the last person/fan base that should ever say one word about another fan base's arrogance....or anything else you care to say about bodily excrement.

Enjoy that St. Louis sports scene this winter.

Go MU.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: jmayer1 on October 08, 2008, 03:46:39 PM
Johnny Come Lately, you need to relax.  Classy language.  I have NEVER acted like the Cubs were entitled to anything and have actually avoided any talk of postseason success during any regular season understanding exactly where we've come from.  I think the Cubs lack of postseason success has been pretty well chronicled. Why don't you read more than two posts before you draw a uneducated opinion and single me out?

As a Cardinals fan, nobody wants/cares to hear from you here anyway.  Jimmy Edmonds catching the third out to clinch the division against the Cards was classic....as it is to hear him compare playing for the Cubs vs. playing in St. Louis.

Have you ever been to Wrigley for a Cubs/Cards game when the Cards won?  If so, you are the last person/fan base that should ever say one word about another fan base's arrogance....or anything else you care to say about bodily excrement.

Enjoy that St. Louis sports scene this winter.

Go MU.
Classy language?  What are you 5?  I didn't make any personal insults.

Why don't you go back and read some of my posts in the brewers/cubs thread before you call me johnny come lately?

I singled you out because you are the only one crying that people are ripping on the Cubs fans after their flame-out in the playoffs.

I haven't heard any of Edmonds's comments about the differences between playing for the cards/cubs.  Did it have something to do with actually experiencing success in the postseason?

Yes, I have been at many cards/cubs, brewers/cubs, cards/brewers games and can say that arrogance/trash talk has gone both ways; although the cards fans are really the only ones that have any right to be arrogant.

I'm not from Stl, I only like the Cards because I was raised loving them by Grandpa and Dad; in all other sports I root for Wis teams (and the brewers to a lesser extent than the Cards).

I agree, GO MU!
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 08, 2008, 04:13:24 PM
Classy language?  What are you 5?  I didn't make any personal insults.

Why don't you go back and read some of my posts in the brewers/cubs thread before you call me johnny come lately?

I singled you out because you are the only one crying that people are ripping on the Cubs fans after their flame-out in the playoffs.

I haven't heard any of Edmonds's comments about the differences between playing for the cards/cubs.  Did it have something to do with actually experiencing success in the postseason?

Yes, I have been at many cards/cubs, brewers/cubs, cards/brewers games and can say that arrogance/trash talk has gone both ways; although the cards fans are really the only ones that have any right to be arrogant.

I'm not from Stl, I only like the Cards because I was raised loving them by Grandpa and Dad; in all other sports I root for Wis teams (and the brewers to a lesser extent than the Cards).

I agree, GO MU!

Believe me, I was not insulted....deep breaths..... 

I'm sure you've made posts in the brewers/cubs thread throughout the season....it lasted for 6 months...we were finally done with this until you dipped your nose in. 

No, you singled me out as one of those many Cubs fans acting like our sh*t (there's your language hint) didn't smell.....you're way off....before pointing the finger you should know what the hell you're talking about.  There are pleny of Cards fans that act that way every, single season.

No, Edmonds' comments hand nothing to do with postseason success and everything to do with atmosphere and quality of life.

I didn't realize anyone has the right to be arrogant.  Interesting.

Time to focus on MU.




Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 08, 2008, 07:36:50 PM
Yes, I have been at many cards/cubs, brewers/cubs, cards/brewers games and can say that arrogance/trash talk has gone both ways; although the cards fans are really the only ones that have any right to be arrogant.
Honest question here.  Do you think the Brewers' players' actions this season against the Cardinals were as bad as Cardinals players and sportswriters made it sound?  Do you think some of it may have just been the fact that for the first time in quite a long time the Brewers were beating the Cardinals rather than being automatic wins for the Cardinals?

I just don't understand how Cardinals players, Pujols in particular, were talking about how the Brewers don't respect the game, yet they are the ones who are talking about how they don't like the Brewers players, and they are the ones who threw at Braun (and anybody who says that wasn't intentional is kidding themselves, they made it clear that they had the most problem with him and the pitcher didn't walk a single player that game, yet hit Braun in the back).

I understand that the Brewers watched their home runs for a bit too long during that one series, but to be fair there were 2 in a 3 game series that took the lead in the top of the 9th inning, so of course it was exciting.  I can understand being upset about the Brewers untucking the jerseys for the first time they do it and you don't know what it represents, but the Brewers have made it plenty clear throughout the year that it's a show of respect for Mike Cameron's dad, who came home from work after a long day and untucked his shirt first thing.

I don't understand why Pujols thinks he can tell people how to "respect the game," especially since he is one of the worst players at watching his home runs, he does it more than almost anyone and it doesn't matter the situation, the Cardinals could be down 5 in the 3rd and he could hit a solo home run and he would still watch it as if it won a game.  I also don't understand why he ran at Villanueva and started cussing him after Villanueva got out of a bases loaded, no out jam to keep the lead.  He was pumped up, as he should have been, and yeah he should've done it towards the Brewers dugout, but to run out from the on-deck circle was a little over the top.  Throwing your helmets down and bat toward the dugout while arguing with the umpire after being called out on strikes is a little "disrespectful to the game," as the Cardinals did a few times when facing the Brewers this year.

So I am just wondering, while the Brewers at times were a little arrogant, if you think it was really that bad or if maybe it was the fact that the Brewers were finally beating the Cardinals?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Mayor McCheese on October 08, 2008, 08:07:06 PM
I am tired from just trying to read this nonsense you guys are calling a thread now.  Honestly, how long will you guys beat this dead horse.... November? December?  Its over, lets all move on.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: IAmMarquette on October 09, 2008, 12:54:24 AM
MarquetteFan94--not trying to single you out here, nor is it just my Brewers-fan blood getting the best of me, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, feels sorry for the Cubs or their fans.

I will be the first to admit that I can't understand what it's like to be a fan of a team that hasn't won a championship in 100years, and has had some historic collapses/flame-outs in postseason play, but I will also be the first to declare that such misfortune/failure doesn't endear that team to those of us who aren't Cubs fans.

I have a lot of respect for actual Cubs fans, one of which you appear to be, as they've got more intestinal fortitude than any other group of sports fans. Respect, however, is not the same thing as sympathy/empathy.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MilWarrior on October 09, 2008, 02:20:43 AM
Where's the Cubs playoff discussion? Is this thread dead yet? The Superbar is usually entertaining but it seems like every single thread lately turns into some kind of inane fight.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 09, 2008, 08:09:59 AM
Another in a series of well thought out, articulate and classy posts from you.

Keep setting that bar low...."happy just sniffing the playoffs."  Definitely one of the funnier lines I've heard in a while...nice work.

and it gets to you... which is why I do it.

now this is the part where you say that I am somehow the one that is worked up, and not classy as if hurling insults and typing up half of a page of text somehow makes you right, classy, articulate, or smarter!

how long will it take you to respond this time?  10 minutes?

dude, don't feed the trolls.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 09, 2008, 10:14:27 AM
and it gets to you... which is why I do it.

now this is the part where you say that I am somehow the one that is worked up, and not classy as if hurling insults and typing up half of a page of text somehow makes you right, classy, articulate, or smarter!

how long will it take you to respond this time?  10 minutes?

dude, don't feed the trolls.

Let's not flatter ourselves.  The difference with you and the others (i.e. wadesworld) is that they actually offer some knowledge of the game supported by relevant statistics, player comparisons, etc.  There is no sport in continuing any 'dialogue' with you.

Sorry for the delayed response.

Go MU.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 09, 2008, 10:26:09 AM
MarquetteFan94--not trying to single you out here, nor is it just my Brewers-fan blood getting the best of me, but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, feels sorry for the Cubs or their fans.

I will be the first to admit that I can't understand what it's like to be a fan of a team that hasn't won a championship in 100years, and has had some historic collapses/flame-outs in postseason play, but I will also be the first to declare that such misfortune/failure doesn't endear that team to those of us who aren't Cubs fans.

I have a lot of respect for actual Cubs fans, one of which you appear to be, as they've got more intestinal fortitude than any other group of sports fans. Respect, however, is not the same thing as sympathy/empathy.

I appreciate what you're saying.  To an extent, you've helped with my original point....which is what frustrated me to begin with....in no way whatsoever would I (or any other true Cubs fan) ever expect sympathy from another fan base...it doesn't work that way....it was about respect...especially since we're all MU fans in this forum.  You're right, unless you're an avid, diehard Cubs fan (as I've been my entire life) you have no idea what it's like going through all these letdowns....to have it unnecessarily rubbed in your face by fans of the team that finished behind you in the division is what broke the camel's back in this case....going back, sure, I woud've preferred to not let my emotions get the best of me but it at the same time it was provoked.  Anyway, again, appreciate what you're saying....time to move on.

Go MU.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 10, 2008, 07:55:29 AM
Let's not flatter ourselves.  The difference with you and the others (i.e. wadesworld) is that they actually offer some knowledge of the game supported by relevant statistics, player comparisons, etc.  There is no sport in continuing any 'dialogue' with you.

Sorry for the delayed response.

Go MU.

lol, you've really got yourself convinced man.  What is your next argument?  Oh, I know, it must be that "everyone" agrees with you and that I am the outsider.

I'm not really sure your argument pertaining to statistics, or player comparisons really holds any water since 90% of this thread is mucked up with OPINIONS... Including yours.  I have not brought up statistics because they are irrelevant... well other than the Cubs haven't won a championship in 100 years.

Keep claiming to take the high road, then drop an insult... its very convincing that you are the genius on this board... this pissing match, if you will.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 10, 2008, 10:30:49 AM
you are the genius on this board...

Finally, something sensible from you.  Hard to argue that one. :)

Are you mad?
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2008, 07:48:42 AM
and it gets to you... which is why I do it.

now this is the part where you say that I am somehow the one that is worked up, and not classy as if hurling insults and typing up half of a page of text somehow makes you right, classy, articulate, or smarter!

how long will it take you to respond this time?  10 minutes?

dude, don't feed the trolls.

I must be Nostradamus.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 13, 2008, 11:45:14 AM
I must be Nostradamus.

Did you prepare all weekend for that one?  More self-flattery....Artful.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 13, 2008, 12:27:01 PM
nope, just pointing out that your style of argument is well known to me, and ipso facto it is ineffective.

any casual observer may have noted the same.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 13, 2008, 03:50:17 PM
wow, ipso facto...hilarious....mixing law terminology into your shallow posts makes them much more impressive.  ;D

for someone who never offered an ounce of true baseball knowledge throughout this thing you sure do linger around...it's kind of like that piece of toilet paper you can't quite shake off your shoe....maybe that's your modus operandi. lol.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUfan12 on October 13, 2008, 04:35:25 PM
OK... can we lockus updis thread?

If I could, I would do it pro bono.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 13, 2008, 04:51:10 PM
nicely played....I don't think you'd get too many arguments.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: chonefigs on October 13, 2008, 06:55:30 PM
Am I the only Cubs fan out there is getting sick of seeing "The Official Cubs Playoff Page" at the top of the discussion list everyday, thus reminding me of how pathetic the Cubs were in the playoffs this year?

In this dude's opinion, this thread needs to be put to bed so that I, along with the rest of my Northside chums, can get on with our lives and quit being pestered by the garbage that was the '08 Cubs in the playoffs.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 14, 2008, 08:04:45 AM
wow, ipso facto...hilarious....mixing law terminology into your shallow posts makes them much more impressive.  ;D

for someone who never offered an ounce of true baseball knowledge throughout this thing you sure do linger around...it's kind of like that piece of toilet paper you can't quite shake off your shoe....maybe that's your modus operandi. lol.


Look, I went to Law School... but I guess I can dumb the rest of my comments down for you, since you feel more comfortable slinging mud.

you either make fun of someone for sounding too smart, or too stupid... the middle ground... what we must use as a gauge is... you?  compelling.

what sort of baseball knowledge do I need to drop on this thread to legitimize myself... in your eyes? 

All I have ever said in this thread is that you are a "boo hoo, woe is me" Cubs fan.  I feel no pity for you (as you wish every reader here to) and frankly you are the one continuing the argument.  You can't just stop.  It is impossible.  You... must... have... the... last... word.

I patiently await your inevitable response.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 14, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Look, I went to Law School... but I guess I can dumb the rest of my comments down for you, since you feel more comfortable slinging mud.

you either make fun of someone for sounding too smart, or too stupid... the middle ground... what we must use as a gauge is... you?  compelling.

what sort of baseball knowledge do I need to drop on this thread to legitimize myself... in your eyes? 

All I have ever said in this thread is that you are a "boo hoo, woe is me" Cubs fan.  I feel no pity for you (as you wish every reader here to) and frankly you are the one continuing the argument.  You can't just stop.  It is impossible.  You... must... have... the... last... word.

I patiently await your inevitable response.

How many times have you checked back for my response today?  ;)

You are persistent...we'll give you that much. 

I've...already...said...this...the difference between you and the other Brewer fans (wadesworld and others) that I was going back and forth with was that, while there were some unnecessary, non-baseball-related jabs going both ways, they actually used knowledge of the game to strengthen their arguments:  historical references, statistics (which, according to you, have no place in baseball discussion), player comparisons, head-to-head match-ups, etc...all you could do is say, uh..."boo hoo."  Insightful.

If you read that I was looking for a pity party from any of my posts, a subscription to Hooked On Phonics should be in your immediate future as this was also just covered a couple days ago....not true counselor.

Go MU!

Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 15, 2008, 10:05:26 AM
zero times actually.  And who is this "we" you speak of? Got a turd in your pocket?

I would like to congratulate you on changing what I said completely to fit your argument.  At no time did I claim that statistics, etc. were important to the conversation.  All I did was sum up your whiny rant for what it was.  Apparently you can't put this together and fail to acknowledge how you come off.

As for me, I am not trying to debate stats or head to head matchups because they are irrelavent to the argument I am making... also, taking a quick look back through this thread I don't see many if any "statistics" except that the Cubs haven't won the WS for over 100 years.  but then, this isn't a statistic... unless you are implying some strange definition of the word that you have recently created to assist your argument.

simply put, You whined.  I called you on it (and I don't believe I was alone), and so your response is that I don't know baseball?.. 

You whined.
I called you a whiner.
You said I don't know baseball.
I sit back and laugh, and continue to troll this thread gaining more pleasure with every 'response' that I predicted you would make.

where have I heard this type of argument before?

I appreciate the Vince Lloyd and Lou Boudreaux reference...nicely done.  With success comes bandwagon fans...good and bad.  Those who have not endured a lifetime of Cubs futility don't get it and talk trash....that's when it blows up in their face and it makes others happy.  For those of us who have generations of Cubs fans in their family and remember their first game at Wrigley...and their grandfathers remember their first games, etc....it's painful.  So, when there's someone taking explicit enjoyment out of their failures (and does so on a Cubs Playoff Thread), it strikes a chord.  I think there's an unwritten rule amongst rivals where there can be as much back and forth, trash-talking etc. between the fans and enjoyment when one team beats the other....that's what makes a rivalry healthy....but piling on, ridiculing and taunting after a tough, season-ending loss is unnecessary....especially when we all have to live together during MU basketball season.

FWIW, I was also a Brewers fan growing up and remember watcing the '82 WS hoping they'd beat the Cardinals who, at the time, were probably our biggest rival.  I also enjoyed the Brewers beating the White Sox anytime they played.



that isn't a 'my feelings are hurt' whine?  OK SURE.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 15, 2008, 04:04:02 PM
Counselor, wow...your longest response to date....nice....this must have you worked up.  Or maybe you're just feeling more comfortable....either way it's good, you probably needed to let this stuff out while feeling a little sense of personal accomplishment...maybe you'd call that a little internal quid pro quo.  But we should probably leave the law terminology to you.

What's with another poop reference here?

A person with such command over English and Latin should certainly know the different ways a simple pronoun like 'we' can be used in a sentence, no?  Must not have covered that in law school.

Getting a rise and response from a self-proclaimed troll like this is always satisfying.  Yes, you called me a whiner....hilarious.

In terms of you gaining more pleasure with every one of my 'responses'....that's frightening and frankly creeps me out.  It may be time to find another hobby or three.

I'll look forward to your MU basketball analysis over on Hangin' at the Al.....bye now.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: only a warrior on October 16, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
MUFan94,

Arguing on the internet???  Isn't that like winning the Special Olympics?  Does anybody really win?

Let it go.....  9 days until Midnight Madness
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MarquetteFan94 on October 16, 2008, 11:05:40 AM
MUFan94,

Arguing on the internet???  Isn't that like winning the Special Olympics?  Does anybody really win?

Let it go.....  9 days until Midnight Madness

Done.  Harsh Special Olympics comment.

Go MU.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: only a warrior on October 16, 2008, 02:46:45 PM
I actually messed up the quote, here is the way it should of read..... still harsh though
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: JSwarriors08 on October 17, 2008, 02:08:18 AM
Low.  Very Low.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: muwarrior87 on October 17, 2008, 07:08:21 AM
especially considering multiple people on this board have mentally handicapped family members, most of whom are probably some of the nicest people they know. I know my brother is.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: MUfan12 on October 17, 2008, 08:12:53 AM
I'm gonna renew the call to lock this thing up... just way out of line.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: reinko on October 17, 2008, 09:25:11 AM
I'm gonna renew the call to lock this thing up... just way out of line.

agreed, i think someone needs one of those timeouts the mods have mentioned before
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: mu_hilltopper on October 17, 2008, 11:15:57 AM
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Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: RawdogDX on October 17, 2008, 03:52:53 PM
I suppose it would be too much to ask that people realize that the fact that brewer fans need to keep making fun of cubs fans long after cubs fans stop visiting the brewers thread is evidence of WI's inferiority complex. 

Que someone saying "uh-uh, you think you are superior to us! That is why we feel the need to make your thread unbelievably long."
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: wadesworld on October 17, 2008, 04:24:50 PM
I suppose it would be too much to ask that people realize that the fact that brewer fans need to keep making fun of cubs fans long after cubs fans stop visiting the brewers thread is evidence of WI's inferiority complex. 

Que someone saying "uh-uh, you think you are superior to us! That is why we feel the need to make your thread unbelievably long."
Quite honestly for the last week or so it's been 1 Brewer fan attacking 1 Cubs fan, and that Cubs fan attacking that Brewers fan right back.  Not quite sure where you got the idea that it's a bunch of Brewers fans.  But yeah, you're right, we feel so far inferior to God's gift of a city...

But that is exactly why Brewers fans made fun of Cubs fans when the Cubs got swept out of the playoffs, because you Cubs fans say things like "Wisconsin has an inferiority complex," so when the Brewers play longer AFTER Brewers fans heard all season about how they are so far inferior to the Cubs, it's quite comical.

Glad you started this back up.  A Cubs fan, imagine that.
Title: Re: The Official Cubs Playoff page
Post by: Hards Alumni on October 20, 2008, 08:16:03 AM
I was willing to let it go, but wade is exactly right... its that behavior that fuels threads like this.