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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: tower912 on April 04, 2008, 11:47:35 AM

Title: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: tower912 on April 04, 2008, 11:47:35 AM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/chickludwig/


I would rather see Buzz than this guy.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Dish on April 04, 2008, 11:49:31 AM
My head hurts from reading this article.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Ahoya06 on April 04, 2008, 11:50:32 AM
Not a good hire, IMO...
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Phi Iota Gamma 84 on April 04, 2008, 11:51:15 AM
Love that he said Crean to IU is  a step down.  There's some love for MU
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Horrible!! If true, it sounds to me like they gave Crean a voice in this decision.

Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 11:53:54 AM
Quote from: tower912 on April 04, 2008, 11:47:35 AM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/o/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/chickludwig/


I would rather see Buzz than this guy.

At this moment, this is absolutely where I would place my bet. I believe I posted how much sense it made while Crean's press conference was going on.

FOr those who want Buzz to stick around, given the relationship with Crean, his endorsement, etc., this would seem to be one likely scenario in which he stays.

Also, I think we need to get some players out of Ohio from time to time.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: CTWarrior on April 04, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Horrible!! If true, it sounds to me like they gave Crean a voice in this decision.

To be honest, I like the idea of an African American coach, but I'd rather have the guy from VCU.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Warrior1969 on April 04, 2008, 11:57:19 AM
This would be terrible, they don't even want him at dayton!  
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Henry Sugar on April 04, 2008, 11:58:21 AM
I'm praying that this is not true.  Please don't be true.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:59:59 AM
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 04, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Horrible!! If true, it sounds to me like they gave Crean a voice in this decision.

To be honest, I like the idea of an African American coach, but I'd rather have the guy from VCU.

What? Gregory is whiter than my bed sheets!
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:00:06 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 04, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Horrible!! If true, it sounds to me like they gave Crean a voice in this decision.

To be honest, I like the idea of an African American coach, but I'd rather have the guy from VCU.

Well, if the hire grgoey, you'll get neither.

(http://www.collegeinsider.com/indy06/images/brian_gregory1.JPG)
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: tonyreeder on April 04, 2008, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 04, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Horrible!! If true, it sounds to me like they gave Crean a voice in this decision.

To be honest, I like the idea of an African American coach, but I'd rather have the guy from VCU.

Unless I missed something ,Brian Gregory's white
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: MU gimp ONE on April 04, 2008, 12:02:47 PM
i know nothing about gregory... although dayton's program has been fun to watch this year.  not saying he is the best fit, but who knows.  When Crean was hired 9 years ago, did everyone say "WOW, THIS IS AN AWESOME HIRE."  probably not, so why are people panicing now on who we hire.  we don't need a big name to succeed, we just need the right fit.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Dish on April 04, 2008, 12:04:36 PM
Reading the Dayton boards, they'll all personally drive Gregory to Milwaukee. They can't get rid of him fast enough apparently.

Since Izzo is the puppetmaster behind all of this, can we get Gregory a tanning booth?
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:04:52 PM
My thoughts on Gregory on Tuesday. Not sure this wouldn't be a decent choice...

I'm not married to the idea as he has not been wildly succesful, but I have to admit I'm kinda feelin' Brian Gregory. His progression at Dayton has been similar to Crean's...some early success, followed by a couple down years, but they are back on the upswing. Beyond that I think his experience makes him somewhat of a natural fit...he has worked for Jud Heathcoat, Kevin O'Neill, and Tom Izzo...my hope would be that he could sort of bring the best of what O'Neill, Dean, and Crean gave us given that history. Safe to assume he will bring a defensive mentality (all 3), good knowledge of X's and O's matchups(heathcoat/Deane), tireless work and recruiting (Izzo/Crean), etc. Makes a lot of sense to me.

Guys like Miller, Pearl, Bennett, etc. would certainly bring a better resume, and perhaps be safer picks, but I'm not sure I guy like Gregory wouldn't be a better fit (who am I kidding, Bennett is a natural fit, and I'd be ok with that). The question would be if he could translate the upgrade in conference, recent success, etc. into more success for MU on the court. I would suggest if he can recruit to Dayton, he can rtecruit to MU. Its all relative. I would suggest that the jump from Dayton to MU is comparable to the jump from MU to IU. That said, if Crean doesn't ultimately deliver better results there than he did here, he will be out on his a**. If IU is assuming Crean can upgrade his success by making the move, isn't is safe to assume Gregory might be able to do the same by upgrading to MU?
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 12:05:58 PM
Fun to watch? What has he accomplished to earn this kind of promotion?

He was on the verge of being on the hotseat at Dayton!
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: leglegle on April 04, 2008, 12:09:40 PM
CTWarrior was writing about his preference for Anthony Grant from VCU the African-American coach.  We realize Gregory is White
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: CTWarrior on April 04, 2008, 12:09:47 PM
Quote from: tonyreeder on April 04, 2008, 12:00:33 PM
Quote from: CTWarrior on April 04, 2008, 11:56:50 AM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 11:51:58 AM
Horrible!! If true, it sounds to me like they gave Crean a voice in this decision.

To be honest, I like the idea of an African American coach, but I'd rather have the guy from VCU.

Unless I missed something ,Brian Gregory's white

Yikes!  Not even a good Tommy Crean tan!  I guess I thought I read that somewhere.  I guess it's safe to say I haven't seen a game he's coached!
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: IAmMarquette on April 04, 2008, 12:11:46 PM
Gregory from UD to MU... Grant from VCU to UD? Can't we just cut out the middle man, and have Grant jump straight here?
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:13:46 PM
Speaking of wanting to get a few players out of Ohio, I was thinking about this earlier today...In his 9 years here, I can think of only 1 player Crean signed out of Michigan - Brandon Bell, and we all know how that worked out. Is that really all though? If so, I would say that isn't very good.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: leglegle on April 04, 2008, 12:14:49 PM
If Grant is going to leave VCU, choosing Dayton over MU that would be tough to take!
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:13:46 PM
Speaking of wanting to get a few players out of Ohio, I was thinking about this earlier today...In his 9 years here, I can think of only 1 player Crean signed out of Michigan - Brandon Bell, and we all know how that worked out. Is that really all though? If so, I would say that isn't very good.
Grimm
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Coobeys Oil Depot on April 04, 2008, 12:16:30 PM
It would be a ridiculous embarrassment if Gregory went to Marquette and Dayton got Anthony Grant.

If Brownell was really the guy for Indiana if Crean stayed in Milwaukee how in the world does our administration allow Brian Fucking Gregory jump him in the line for the HC job?

Puking. Now.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Dish on April 04, 2008, 12:16:49 PM
Last good player MU got out of Ohio was Hutch.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: DonCornholeone on April 04, 2008, 12:17:05 PM
Considering our other options, this choice wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.  I'm sure he is a decent enough coach, but I was really hoping for a change in direction... and Gregory would be more of the same.  And the guy lost me when he said IU is a step down... puh-lease.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: The Lens on April 04, 2008, 12:22:41 PM
If a few guys say no, I'd talk to Gregory.  But this quick makes it seem like he was #1 on the list.

MU88 a frequent Scout.com poster is usually right about MU and he nails it here, MU by in large does the conservative thing. 

This article says Pearl may be itchy, why not scratch that itch?
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: ChuckyChip on April 04, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 04, 2008, 12:15:28 PM
Quote from: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:13:46 PM
Speaking of wanting to get a few players out of Ohio, I was thinking about this earlier today...In his 9 years here, I can think of only 1 player Crean signed out of Michigan - Brandon Bell, and we all know how that worked out. Is that really all though? If so, I would say that isn't very good.
Grimm

James Matthews...who was here and gone very quickly.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:27:21 PM
Quote from: DamonKeysContactLens on April 04, 2008, 12:22:41 PM
This article says Pearl may be itchy, why not scratch that itch?

Completely agree. With Phil Martelli not a viable option, Pearl remains my number 1 choice. He's had success everywhere he's been, he can recruit, knows the Midwest, familiar with the Milwaukee market, the entire Big 10 hates him, Crean hates him and vice versa, UWM fans would now hate him...Could there be a better choice?
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: NavinRJohnson on April 04, 2008, 12:29:11 PM
So while there were a couple of players, my overall conclusion was correct - Crean had zero success recruiting Michigan.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: mike1730 on April 04, 2008, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: MUDish on April 04, 2008, 12:04:36 PM
Reading the Dayton boards, they'll all personally drive Gregory to Milwaukee. They can't get rid of him fast enough apparently.

Since Izzo is the puppetmaster behind all of this, can we get Gregory a tanning booth?



I don't post much, but I would if one would have read some of the posts on the MU boards, you would have thought we wanted to run Crean out of town too.....
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Daniel on April 04, 2008, 12:32:37 PM
Wow - it seems like from this reaction I also hope this is not true - I read the piece, and it really seems lik ehe did not do much at Dayton.  Can he recruit? OMG - please - let's get a first-class coach!
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: nyg on April 04, 2008, 12:38:30 PM
The article was wierd.  Initially he writes its a done deal for Gregory, based upon him not wearing any Dayton logos.  Then he goes to the next paragraph and states if the Gregory to MU deal falls through, look for Rick Majerus.   Uh??????  Done deal/falls through????  Only thing that scares me is the fact Anthony Grant is an alumni of Dayton, which would put a wrench in things for MU.  

Appears this is another "don't let the door hit your rear on the way out" situation with Gregory and the fanbase. Why even consider him, sounds as if he is a reject from Dayton.  If no Grant, then go after Bronwell, at least he is well liked and thought of.
                                                                                                   

Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: DonCornholeone on April 04, 2008, 12:42:10 PM
Hiring Gregory would be safe and conservative.  And boring.  5-7 years from now, we'll be right back here.  Let's mix it up, people!!  Why not?  We got the Big East, the facilities, the fans, all the coach has to do is, at minimum, match Crean's success (which shouldn't be difficult)... we can go in any number of directions with this hire.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: lab_warrior on April 04, 2008, 12:58:42 PM
Ugh...NO WAY.  Remind me how many tournament games--check that--APPEARANCES--this joker has made??  I'd throw up in my mouth if this guy was hired.  Reeks of mediocrity.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Norm on April 04, 2008, 01:21:50 PM
Is Izzo looking out for Marquette or an ex-assistant? Why would he have such a big say anyway?

I would take Anthony Grant over Brian Gregory any day.
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: Big Papi on April 04, 2008, 01:26:26 PM
If its true that Pearl is not happy being fourth in line at Tennessee, I sure wouldn't mind going after him.  Now that would be a hire compared to the names that are being thrown around.
Title: Is It Brian Gregory?
Post by: jce on April 04, 2008, 01:50:31 PM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/chickludwig/

or

http://tinyurl.com/57ov2r


"Brian Gregory's going, going, gone to Marquette.

"It's all but a done deal," he said.

The University of Dayton coach? That Brian Gregory? To Marquette?

It absolutely makes too much sense."
Title: Re: ...or maybe Gregory....
Post by: bs4173 on April 04, 2008, 02:25:59 PM
Quote from: jce on April 04, 2008, 01:50:31 PM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/chickludwig/

or

http://tinyurl.com/57ov2r


"Brian Gregory's going, going, gone to Marquette.

"It's all but a done deal," he said.

The University of Dayton coach? That Brian Gregory? To Marquette?

It absolutely makes too much sense."

well, I don't know how I feel about Gregory, but I do like how the columnist said this:

"Crean bolted from Marquette for a worse job in Bloomington, Ind., as head coach of the Indiana Hoosiers.
Sorry, folks. Hate to say it. But it's a step down."


I wouldn't necessarily agree. Indiana's not a step down, but it's nice to hear some high regard from the press for once.
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