100 years young today.
#NoPolitics
It's amazing he hit 100. The pressure of being president seems to prematurely age people.
Great statesman and contributor to society for 40+ years. In that regard, perhaps the best ex-president ever?
A better former president than president. A better man than president.
Quote from: MU82 on October 01, 2024, 08:38:26 AM
Great statesman and contributor to society for 40+ years. In that regard, perhaps the best ex-president ever?
Hoover would be in that discussion
We've been supportin' this dude for a fookin' eternity, hey?
he's doubling brother billy's life span too eyna? everyone has a brother billy
Quote from: 4everwarriors on October 01, 2024, 10:46:13 AM
We've been supportin' this dude for a fookin' eternity, hey?
Yeah, it's almost as if he forces Secret Service and the rest of his huge entourage to pay rack rates to stay at the resorts he owns while he plays golf and rakes in huge profits on the taxpayers' dime.
And so no politics is bye bye.
He had three siblings...only one of whom made it to their 60s, and she died at 63.
His dad died before reaching 60 as well.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 11:44:13 AM
He had three siblings...only one of whom made it to their 60s, and she died at 63.
His dad died before reaching 60 as well.
Hmmm... bro must play a lot of Pickleball
Until Joe, worst President of my lifetime. Iran hostage crisis is his mark, of course. Soviet grain embargo was I'll conceived, among other decisions. But, America wanted change after Nixon, Ford. Carter did some good in bringing awareness to Habitat for Humanity's mission, so there's that. And, 100 yrs old is incredible.
Quote from: NCMUFan on October 01, 2024, 11:40:13 AM
And so no politics is bye bye.
Politics in a thread about a former president?
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Quote from: Jay Bee on October 01, 2024, 11:46:45 AM
Hmmm... bro must play a lot of Pickleball
Would be a great SNL X-Presidents skit.
Quote from: Viper on October 01, 2024, 11:54:32 AM
Until Joe, worst President of my lifetime. Iran hostage crisis is his mark, of course. Soviet grain embargo was I'll conceived, among other decisions. But, America wanted change after Nixon, Ford. Carter did some good in bringing awareness to Habitat for Humanity's mission, so there's that. And, 100 yrs old is incredible.
Were you in a 4 year coma prior to these past 4 years?
Quote from: Viper on October 01, 2024, 11:54:32 AM
Until Joe, worst President of my lifetime. Iran hostage crisis is his mark, of course. Soviet grain embargo was I'll conceived, among other decisions. But, America wanted change after Nixon, Ford. Carter did some good in bringing awareness to Habitat for Humanity's mission, so there's that. And, 100 yrs old is incredible.
154 historians who have devoted much of their lives to studying presidents ranked Biden 14th-best and Trump dead last.
https://www.axios.com/2024/02/19/presidents-survey-trump-ranks-last-biden-14th
Meanwhile, U.S. News & World Report rated Trump as the 3rd-worst president ever (ahead of only Andrew Johnson and James Buchanan).
https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/slideshows/the-10-worst-presidents?slide=9
Yeah, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the worst president of their lifetime, and that lifetime included the likes of Nixon, Carter and Trump, is way too obsessed with current politics.
and there you have it...bwahahahahahaha
Finally. Rob Schneider weighs in.
Please no politics.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 12:31:54 PM
Yeah, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the worst president of their lifetime, and that lifetime included the likes of Nixon, Carter and Trump, is way too obsessed with current politics.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do. He won his second term by a landslide for a reason. Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.
Quote from: CTWarrior on October 01, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do. He won his second term by a landslide for a reason. Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.
The bolded isn't accurate. He participated in the covering up of a felony whose primary purpose was to steal information from an opposing candidate's party. What politicians do that now?
Quote from: CTWarrior on October 01, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do. He won his second term by a landslide for a reason. Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.
Nixon did passed some very good policy - some stuff that today would be labeled "woke" or even "commie."
But 1. He let tens of thousands of young American men die unnecessarily in a war he let drag on for far too long, and 2. He was a raging racist and antisemite.
For those reasons alone, Nixon was nowhere near "great." And there were other reasons, too.
He deserved to get impeached because of the cover-up, but I agree that the actual Watergate incident does seem quaint now compared to the various treasonous, unethical, immoral, illegal and cruel acts of the man historians selected as the WOAT.
Quote from: CTWarrior on October 01, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do. He won his second term by a landslide for a reason. Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.
I'd suggest the state of Democratic Party at the time and the success of the GOP's Southern Strategy had as much to do with the results as anything Nixon did in office.
He wasn't the worst president in terms of policy, but "great" seems a bit much. His economic policies left a lot to be desired.
Quote from: MU82 on October 01, 2024, 03:02:49 PM
Nixon did passed some very good policy - some stuff that today would be labeled "woke" or even "commie."
But 1. He let tens of thousands of young American men die unnecessarily in a war he let drag on for far too long, and 2. He was a raging racist and antisemite.
For those reasons alone, Nixon was nowhere near "great." And there were other reasons, too.
He deserved to get impeached because of the cover-up, but I agree that the actual Watergate incident does seem quaint now compared to the various treasonous, unethical, immoral, illegal and cruel acts of the man historians selected as the WOAT.
Nixon was a big time mama's boy! Very weird dude, which I guess most people who run for this office have to be.
He also intentionally prolonged an international crisis for political gain (Vietnam).
Also Reagan most likely delayed the release of the hostages.
Corrupt birds of a feather aina
Quote from: CTWarrior on October 01, 2024, 02:28:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't want to get into politics, but Nixon was a great president, and what he got impeached for was nothing compared to what the current politicians on both sides of the aisle do. He won his second term by a landslide for a reason. Weird and paranoid dude, no doubt.
He won a largest of the popular vote landslide in recorded history - 60.7%.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 01, 2024, 03:41:01 PM
He won a largest of the popular vote landslide in recorded history - 60.7%.
And had an approval rating of of 69% just after he was inaugurated for his second term. That fell to 24% just before he resigned - less than two years later.
It seems like we are glossing over the main reason why historians view him as a poor president.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on October 01, 2024, 03:41:01 PM
He won a largest of the popular vote landslide in recorded history - 60.7%.
LBJ, 1964.
Quote from: Viper on October 01, 2024, 11:54:32 AM
Iran hostage crisis is his mark, of course. Soviet grain embargo was I'll conceived, among other decisions. But, America wanted change after Nixon, Ford. Carter did some good in bringing awareness to Habitat for Humanity's mission, so there's that. And, 100 yrs old is incredible.
Like Tower said, a much better man than a president. In addition to the things you mention he also boycotted the 1980 Olympics which imo was beyond foolish. All of our athletes punished while Russia laughed all the to the medal stand. We sure showed 'em!
Then the Russians turned around and boycotted the 84 LA games. With American athletes laughing all of the way to the medal stand.
Quote from: tower912 on October 01, 2024, 03:53:19 PM
Then the Russians turned around and boycotted the 84 LA games. With American athletes laughing all of the way to the medal stand.
Yep. They really showed us, eh? Dumb and dumber.
Quote from: tower912 on October 01, 2024, 08:45:54 AM
A better former president than president. A better man than president.
Agree. Happy Birthday President Carter.
Quote from: MU82 on October 01, 2024, 08:38:26 AM
Great statesman and contributor to society for 40+ years. In that regard, perhaps the best ex-president ever?
Taft became a professor at Yale for a few years, then chief justice of the supreme court for nearly a decade after he lost election.
I call him Jimmy Butler for how dedicated he is to serving the people
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 11:24:19 AM
Taft became a professor at Yale for a few years, then chief justice of the supreme court for nearly a decade after he lost election.
I've read that the Chief Justice position was what he really wanted, more so than the presidency.
He weighed over 350 lbs. but apparently the story of him getting stuck in a bathtub in the White House is bogus. A special order, 41-inch-wide tub was installed in the WH for him though.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 12:31:54 PM
Yeah, anyone who thinks Joe Biden is the worst president of their lifetime, and that lifetime included the likes of Nixon, Carter and Trump, is way too obsessed with current politics.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 01, 2024, 02:44:55 PM
The bolded isn't accurate. He participated in the covering up of a felony whose primary purpose was to steal information from an opposing candidate's party. What politicians do that now?
Your first picture doesn't address anything.
Your second picture implies that Bill Clinton was as bad as Nixon, but I specifically said cover up a felony. Clinton didn't do that.
And it would be helpful if you could learn how to imbed images into a post and not attach them.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 12:02:13 PM
Your first picture doesn't address anything.
Your second picture implies that Bill Clinton was as bad as Nixon, but I specifically said cover up a felony. Clinton didn't do that.
One thing all of them have in common? They'd have known Tyler Kolek would play in the NBA by watching him at Marquette
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2024, 12:03:15 PM
One thing all of them have in common? They'd have known Tyler Kolek would play in the NBA by watching him at Marquette
Kolek's attitude may keep him out of the NBA.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2024, 12:03:15 PM
One thing all of them have in common? They'd have known Tyler Kolek would play in the NBA by watching him at Marquette
To be fair, they didn't see him lose to RED three straight years and have their brothers in law make fun of them.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on October 02, 2024, 11:47:17 AM
I've read that the Chief Justice position was what he really wanted, more so than the presidency.
He weighed over 350 lbs. but apparently the story of him getting stuck in a bathtub in the White House is bogus. A special order, 41-inch-wide tub was installed in the WH for him though.
The Taft name is all over buildings around New Haven.
I visited his childhood home in Cincinnati. Apparently, he fell off a horse as a teenager and banged his head on a curb and they think it damaged something in his brain that caused him to gain weight and be unable to lose.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 12:02:13 PM
Your first picture doesn't address anything.
Your second picture implies that Bill Clinton was as bad as Nixon, but I specifically said cover up a felony. Clinton didn't do that.
And it would be helpful if you could learn how to imbed images into a post and not attach them.
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.
Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 02:22:52 PM
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.
Lol.
Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 02:22:52 PM
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.
Trump doesn't think Kolek will play in the NBA either
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 12:07:43 PM
To be fair, they didn't see him lose to RED three straight years and have their brothers in law make fun of them.
we agree! Can Shaka get it done this year? Or, will bro-in-law laugh on? High stress in December!!
jimmy livin la vida loca...only stain on his legacy is 4 years in the wh and what a stain that left, but different from the blue dress, eyn'a?
Quote from: rocket surgeon on October 02, 2024, 02:49:42 PM
jimmy livin la vida loca...only stain on his legacy is 4 years in the wh and what a stain that left, but different from the blue dress, eyn'a?
What's wrong with a president getting action from someone that isn't his wife? Family values and evangelicals don't seem to care?
Jimmy was a man who lived the evangelical life and is mocked by those with the red hats.
Weird
I get that you guys have to try, but seriously.
Tax fraud judgement
Defamation judgement. Including being found liable for sexual assault.
34 felony convictions victions.
Facts.
You can't talk character for at least a generation
Quote from: tower912 on October 02, 2024, 03:09:33 PM
I get that you guys have to try, but seriously.
Tax fraud judgement
Defamation judgement. Including being found liable for sexual assault.
34 felony convictions victions.
Facts.
You can't talk character for at least a generation
Jimmy Carter is 100 years old. Was married and faithful to his wife for 77 years. Served his country with honor in the Navy. Spent his post-presidency years serving multiple presidents who asked him for help with diplomacy and was known for his time and efforts with multiple charities.
He was not a good president. He inherited an economic mess set forth by the corrupt administration of Richard Nixon. He was wrong with his approach to the USSR, an approach Reagan campaigned on in 1976 when he opposed Ford. He made his choices in policy on his own, however, and deserves the criticism he has received and rebuke at the polls in 1980.
A man isn't defined by his years in the White House solely. Many have been better outside that address, whether before or after.
Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 02:22:52 PM
first pic needs no explanation.
Give me a great economy, strong private sector, low/no inflation, record high GDP, properly equipped military, energy independence, border security and world tyrants in the corral. Trump accomplished this. Reagan's second term was incredibly strong, Trumps pre-Covid was a close second. Enjoy the prosperity of Trump again...or we all suffer the shiit show of Biden II...Harris/Walz.
I mean, the guy insisted he won an election that he clearly lost. He encouraged a mob to invade the capitol to stop the Congres from counting the results of the electoral college. He continues to insist he won that election.
But I guess he pumped a lot of oil (Biden's administration has pumped more), had a "record" GDP (broken during Biden's term), and had the world's tyrants in a corral (he kowtowed to them.)
Honestly if you like the guy because he is funny, talks tough, and makes you feel good, that's fine. But you don't have to present datapoints that are clearly inaccurate and misleading.
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on October 02, 2024, 03:34:48 PM
I mean, the guy insisted he won an election that he clearly lost. He encouraged a mob to invade the capitol to stop the Congres from counting the results of the electoral college. He continues to insist he won that election.
But I guess he pumped a lot of oil (Biden's administration has pumped more), had a "record" GDP (broken during Biden's term), and had the world's tyrants in a corral (he kowtowed to them.)
Honestly if you like the guy because he is funny, talks tough, and makes you feel good, that's fine. But you don't have to present datapoints that are clearly inaccurate and misleading.
"Make them riot. Do it."
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2024, 03:02:13 PM
What's wrong with a president getting action from someone that isn't his wife? Family values and evangelicals don't seem to care?
Jimmy was a man who lived the evangelical life and is mocked by those with the red hats.
Weird
weird is trying to align pro abortion Carter with evangelicals. Maybe lay off the fau Christian schtick, hey. It's old.
Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 04:27:15 PM
weird is trying to align pro abortion Carter with evangelicals. Maybe lay off the fau Christian schtick, hey. It's old.
You can't be Christian and pro-abortion, huh?
Carter is far more evangelical than any president in the last 50 years.
Then again, he wasn't banging pornstars while his wife of 77 years was pregnant. Maybe I'm not well-versed on modern evangelicalism.
Quote from: tower912 on October 02, 2024, 03:09:33 PM
I get that you guys have to try, but seriously.
Tax fraud judgement
Defamation judgement. Including being found liable for sexual assault.
34 felony convictions victions.
Facts.
You can't talk character for at least a generation
play that card if you want...it's the equivalent to a Kami laugh-off when she has no clue. In this fallen world, I'll take results.
Trump got it done...Abraham Acords had the ME tame. Economic prosperity. Closed border...we sure as hell didn't have the chaos we have with Joe. Properly equipped military, etc etc etc.
I can't fathom the damage to this planet with a Harris/bat shiit crazy Walz government. China gonna roll Taiwan and Japan. Putin wins. Iran continues to get funded by...Harris! No war w/Trump.
Fortunately, Trump/Vance will overcome the dumbassery of the hoard of idiots on the left. The world will be a better, safer place.
Quote from: Viper on October 02, 2024, 04:36:52 PM
play that card if you want...it's the equivalent to a Kami laugh-off when she has no clue. In this fallen world, I'll take results.
Trump got it done...Abraham Acords had the ME tame. Economic prosperity. Closed border...we sure as hell didn't have the chaos we have with Joe. Properly equipped military, etc etc etc.
I can't fathom the damage to this planet with a Harris/bat shiit crazy Walz government. China gonna roll Taiwan and Japan. Putin wins. Iran continues to get funded by...Harris! No war w/Trump.
Fortunately, Trump/Vance will overcome the dumbassery of the hoard of idiots on the left. The world will be a better, safer place.
Because you're a raging hypocrite
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 02, 2024, 04:32:50 PM
You can't be Christian and pro-abortion, huh?
Carter is far more evangelical than any president in the last 50 years.
Then again, he wasn't banging pornstars while his wife of 77 years was pregnant. Maybe I'm not well-versed on modern evangelicalism.
explain how Christianity and abortion align. I'll wait.