For those interesting in following TK and Oso in the Summer League, here are their schedules. (All times Eastern.)
NY Koleks:
Sat 7/13 vs Charlotte 5pm ESPN2
Tue 7/16 vs Brooklyn 430pm NBATV
Wed 7/17 vs Sacramento 330pm NBATV
Fri 7/19 vs Detroit 7pm ESPN
PHX Osos:
Sat 7/13 vs Golden State 11pm ESPN2
Tue 7/16 vs Indiana 4pm ESPNU
Wed 7/17 vs OKC 8pm NBATV
Fri 7/19 vs Milwaukee 4pm NBATV
Quote from: MU82 on July 09, 2024, 01:32:43 PM
For those interesting in following TK and Oso in the Summer League, here are their schedules. (All times Eastern.)
NY Koleks:
Sat 7/13 vs Charlotte 5pm ESPN2
Tue 7/16 vs Brooklyn 430pm NBATV
Wed 7/17 vs Sacramento 330pm NBATV
Fri 7/19 vs Detroit 7pm ESPN
PHX Osos:
Sat 7/13 vs Golden State 11pm ESPN2
Tue 7/16 vs Indiana 4pm ESPNU
Wed 7/17 vs OKC 8pm NBATV
Fri 7/19 vs Milwaukee 4pm NBATV
I'm in Vegas this weekend for a bachelor party, might have to check out that NY game if Kolek is going to play.
Quote from: MU82 on July 09, 2024, 01:32:43 PM
For those interesting in following TK and Oso in the Summer League, here are their schedules. (All times Eastern.)
NY Koleks:
Sat 7/13 vs Charlotte 5pm ESPN2
Tue 7/16 vs Brooklyn 430pm NBATV
Wed 7/17 vs Sacramento 330pm NBATV
Fri 7/19 vs Detroit 7pm ESPN
PHX Osos:
Sat 7/13 vs Golden State 11pm ESPN2
Tue 7/16 vs Indiana 4pm ESPNU
Wed 7/17 vs OKC 8pm NBATV
Fri 7/19 vs Milwaukee 4pm NBATV
Thanks for posting 82
Quote from: BM1090 on July 09, 2024, 01:46:26 PM
I'm in Vegas this weekend for a bachelor party, might have to check out that NY game if Kolek is going to play.
I will be there as well.....ill keep an eye out if TKO is playing. If so, ill wear my F&$K 'em shirt!
I believe Justin Lewis has also signed on for a Knicks summer league spot.
The Marquette Knicks.
Oso is disrupting the Suns locker room by spreading rumors already
https://x.com/geraldbourguet/status/1810838381808734521
Quote from: wadesworld on July 10, 2024, 02:17:51 PM
The Marquette Knicks.
Not with Brunson, Hart, and Donte on the team.
Quote from: Mutaman on July 10, 2024, 05:45:47 PM
Not with Brunson, Hart, and Donte on the team.
They ain't on tha team
Adding in some other MU alumni as well.
https://painttouches.com/2024/07/10/kam-jones-szn-begins-marquette-big-east/ (https://painttouches.com/2024/07/10/kam-jones-szn-begins-marquette-big-east/)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSTES9SbsAE7am0?format=png&name=small)
Looks like the big one is 7/19, when Kolek and Lewis take on former Marquette superstar Jayce Johnson!
It was unfortunate that JJ got hurt....would have loved to see what he could have been injury free.
Five first half assists for Tyler. Justin getting a couple minutes so far.
Quote from: TallTitan34 on July 13, 2024, 05:27:40 PM
Five first half assists for Tyler. Justin getting a couple minutes so far.
Thought TK looked good/comfortable. Guys are going to attack him off the dribble, but his ability to create was there. 7pts, 7 assists, 7 boards.
Quote from: avid1010 on July 13, 2024, 06:00:35 PM
Thought TK looked good/comfortable. Guys are going to attack him off the dribble, but his ability to create was there. 7pts, 7 assists, 7 boards.
0 turnovers
https://youtu.be/0M9Q0Iay6yo?si=b9pY08ylC0pYzXb5 (https://youtu.be/0M9Q0Iay6yo?si=b9pY08ylC0pYzXb5)
Kolek looked comfortable, looked like he belonged out there. Legler praised him several times.
Quote from: MU82 on July 13, 2024, 10:27:01 PM
Kolek looked comfortable, looked like he belonged out there. Legler praised him several times.
https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/sports/knicks-backup-point-guard-could-be-on-summer-league-roster/
Oso also looked like he belonged. Made a two-handed thunder jam, a nice tip-in, and a jump hook on an aggressive move in the lane. Brought the ball upcourt several times, including once that led to a jump hook that just missed. Defended well, especially when switching on the perimeter. I did think he got bullied on the boards a few times.
Quote from: MU82 on July 14, 2024, 12:21:56 PM
Oso also looked like he belonged. Made a two-handed thunder jam, a nice tip-in, and a jump hook on an aggressive move in the lane. Brought the ball upcourt several times, including once that led to a jump hook that just missed. Defended well, especially when switching on the perimeter. I did think he got bullied on the boards a few times.
He was rolling to the basket well all game, but he wasn't paired with anyone that knew how to play the pick and roll. It was frustratingly funny
Does dj carton have a shot? He looked pretty good last game... he looked stronger, faster and more controlled than college.
Excellent Analysis of TyKo first summer league game
https://www.postingandtoasting.com/2024/7/14/24198198/breaking-down-tyler-koleks-knicks-debut
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 14, 2024, 01:09:36 PM
He was rolling to the basket well all game, but he wasn't paired with anyone that knew how to play the pick and roll. It was frustratingly funny
Suns guy on Twitter was super impressed on his ability to read defensive coverages and switch his screen angle or the play.
Quote from: MUDPT on July 14, 2024, 09:57:56 PM
Suns guy on Twitter was super impressed on his ability to read defensive coverages and switch his screen angle or the play.
I'm glad the Suns have people that know ball as well as Scoopers. That's a good sign
Doris Burke, the analyst for the game, was very impressed with Oso.
NJ.com article on how Tyler will quickly become a NYK Fan favorite
https://x.com/AdamZagoria/status/1812850467354894358
Excellent article on TyKo self comparison .
https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/sports/knicks-tyler-kolek-thinks-skillset-is-similar-to-jalen-brunsons-style/
It only took TK a year or two to realize what tower, I and a couple other Scoopers had been saying.
What I find impressive about TK's summer league debut is the pace at which he forced action. Some have questioned if below average speed and agility could hold him back from being effective at the next level, but that certainly didn't look like a problem in game one. He looked like the same guy as in college, a player whose processing and decision making are so lightning quick that they more than make up for any physical limitations.
The only concern I have about him contributing his rookie year is his effectiveness off-ball. I am very confident he will be a legit, ball-dominant NBA PG in the future, but he probably won't get that opportunity right away.
I was surprised that TKO could get to the lane/basket so easily. Granted it was against SL defense, but still.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 15, 2024, 02:21:53 PM
I was surprised that TKO could get to the lane/basket so easily. Granted it was against SL defense, but still.
It is the SL, but think about how easy it will be when he plays against the Pacers in the regular season. ;)
Great start for OsO
2/2 and 2 assists early
Kolek looking great again early in his second game.
A couple of early assists and a deflection on defense.
Quote from: tower912 on July 16, 2024, 03:42:33 PM
A couple of early assists and a deflection on defense.
That first wraparound assist was beautiful, vintage Kolek.
Knicks announcer: "You want those bigs to set those screens, but you want the screens to be legal."
Looking at you Kinsella.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 16, 2024, 04:17:56 PM
Knicks announcer: "You want those bigs to set those screens, but you want the screens to be legal."
Looking at you Kinsella.
If I'm an NBA coach I don't. Watch Bam set a screen. Or Draymond. Or Tristan Thompson. Or Al Horford.
The only illegal screens they call in the NBA are on the dribble handoff and the guy handing the ball off moves over. Every once in a while when a player sticks his hip out to screen as well. But if you want to play offensive line like Bam, you're all good.
Tk not shooting the rock too well so far
but now 14 assists and 0 TOs through 2 SL games.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on July 16, 2024, 05:27:33 PM
Tk not shooting the rock too well so far
but now 14 assists and 0 TOs through 2 SL games.
Reports are Knicks sign Cam Payne
Damn, not good for TK's chances of major contributions his rookie year.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on July 16, 2024, 08:13:12 PM
Damn, not good for TK's chances of major contributions his rookie year.
Disagree. I don't think Payne is going to get major minutes on a Thibs team.
Quote from: BM1090 on July 16, 2024, 08:50:11 PM
Disagree. I don't think Payne is going to get major minutes on a Thibs team.
Yeah, the Knicks sub thinks he's an end-of-bench guy who's Kolek insurance. He's also very good friends with Mikal Bridges.
Oso was really good today. 12 points and earned raves for the way he can defend anyone - "the perfect switchable."
TK played well again. Bunch of assists, and took it hard to the hoop several times in the final minutes.
TK has 14 assists and 0 turnovers in 2 games. Meanwhile the entire NY Knicks team has 31 turnovers in 2 games.
Summer League games are what they are, but it's nice seeing our guys standing out.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on July 16, 2024, 08:13:12 PM
Damn, not good for TK's chances of major contributions his rookie year.
Good. He's not an NBA player
Quote from: MU82 on July 16, 2024, 10:22:29 PM
Oso was really good today. 12 points and earned raves for the way he can defend anyone - "the perfect switchable."
TK played well again. Bunch of assists, and took it hard to the hoop several times in the final minutes.
Yeah he did lots of good things....... Needs to grab some rebounds though
Quote from: MuMark on July 17, 2024, 10:35:13 AM
Yeah he did lots of good things....... Needs to grab some rebounds though
Yep... One rebound in 27 minutes won't cut it.
Watching both our guys in these games... It's so clear how smart and how well-versed they are in NBA style offense.
Quote from: MUfan12 on July 17, 2024, 10:51:47 AM
Yep... One rebound in 27 minutes won't cut it.
Watching both our guys in these games... It's so clear how smart and how well-versed they are in NBA style offense.
Even though he needs to grab a few more, in the post-game he and the head coach essentially said they cared more about ensuring Tshiebwe is limited on the offensive glass. He only had 2 ORB, so mission accomplished.
Tyler and Oso are both gaining confidence in The Summer League.
The two of them can build off this positive Summer experience once training camp starts.
I think both will perform well at The G League level and will end up playing in some NBA games this coming season
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 17, 2024, 12:19:29 PM
Tyler and Oso are both gaining confidence in The Summer League.
The two of them can build off this positive Summer experience once training camp starts.
I think both will perform well at The G League level and will end up playing in some NBA games this coming season
Wow, hadn't thought of it that way.
Quote from: MUfan12 on July 17, 2024, 10:51:47 AM
Yep... One rebound in 27 minutes won't cut it.
Watching both our guys in these games... It's so clear how smart and how well-versed they are in NBA style offense.
And how few other guys are. Washington was awful for the Knicks yesterday. No semblance of working within an offense, same thing with Tyson Walker. Big 10 strikes again.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 17, 2024, 12:23:14 PM
Wow, hadn't thought of it that way.
You can always count on Herm to state the painfully obvious. Some people are even impressed by it!
Quote from: MuMark on July 17, 2024, 10:35:13 AM
Yeah he did lots of good things....... Needs to grab some rebounds though
On defense, Oso was often on the perimeter after switches, so fewer chances for rebounds. Still, there were quite a few times at both ends of the court that he was pushed out of position. Hopefully, as he gains both experience and muscle, he'll do better on the boards, but I'm not sure rebounding will ever be a big strength of his.
Tyler had 10 points and 4 assists in the first half today.......3 or 4 turnovers as well but he's been more aggressive.
Quote from: MuMark on July 17, 2024, 03:39:29 PM
Tyler had 10 points and 4 assists in the first half today.......3 or 4 turnovers as well but he's been more aggressive.
That is what SL should be about. I heard JJ Reddick say he told Bronny he didn't care if got 10 fouls and blown past 10 times, he wanted him to be in the shorts of whomever he was guarding.
O-Max struggling this summer...really liked that kid...hope he gets it going. I'm sure he's putting in the work.
Quote from: avid1010 on July 17, 2024, 04:13:53 PM
O-Max struggling this summer...really liked that kid...hope he gets it going. I'm sure he's putting in the work.
OMax is a classic summer league confuser. In a team with Luka and Kyrie, he will never be asked to initiate offense. But he ends up with the ball a ton in summer league. He will be fine.
ONIONS!
Tyler with the game winning and one for the Knicks.
21 points 8 assists 4 rebounds
https://x.com/nyknicks/status/1813687447483764749?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Outstanding game from beginning to end for Kolek. Played off the ball some and stroked a few catch-and-shoot 3s. But really shined on the ball - and took over late. Fun watching him do what we know he can do.
Quote from: MUDPT on July 17, 2024, 04:23:33 PM
OMax is a classic summer league confuser. In a team with Luka and Kyrie, he will never be asked to initiate offense. But he ends up with the ball a ton in summer league. He will be fine.
Hope you're right...seems like he needs to be 3 and D to me...and I'm not seeing the 3...
Quote from: MU82 on July 17, 2024, 05:16:09 PM
Outstanding game from beginning to end for Kolek. Played off the ball some and stroked a few catch-and-shoot 3s. But really shined on the ball - and took over late. Fun watching him do what we know he can do.
Tyko will be fine.
Quote from: MuggsyB on July 17, 2024, 05:42:30 PM
Tyko will be fine.
He's not fine on D. At least he has something to focus on improving this year
Quote from: MuMark on July 17, 2024, 04:30:52 PM
https://x.com/nyknicks/status/1813687447483764749?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
TyKo getting some Excellent PR
https://nypost.com/2024/07/17/sports/tyler-kolek-delivers-game-winner-for-knicks-in-nba-summer-league-effort/
Quote from: MuMark on July 17, 2024, 10:35:13 AM
Yeah he did lots of good things....... Needs to grab some rebounds though
Must have read this.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 16, 2024, 09:34:46 PM
Yeah, the Knicks sub thinks he's an end-of-bench guy who's Kolek insurance. He's also very good friends with Mikal Bridges.
Hope you and BM are right! Early summer league caveats abound, but TK does look like he may force the issue.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 17, 2024, 12:23:14 PM
Wow, hadn't thought of it that way.
That sort of insight is worth Scoop's subscription costs
Excellent pass by Oso
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/40585353
Quote from: Skatastrophy on July 17, 2024, 06:16:35 PM
He's not fine on D. At least he has something to focus on improving this year
D in NBA only matters in playoffs.
Quote from: Herman Cain on July 18, 2024, 11:50:36 AM
Excellent pass by Oso
https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/40585353
Oso had a few moments, and he rebounded better, but he was a little too passive. It was his worst of the three games so far IMHO.
https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/tyler-kolek-johnny-furphy-cam-spencer-summer-league-stats
Quote from: Zog from Margo on July 19, 2024, 09:21:00 AM
https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/tyler-kolek-johnny-furphy-cam-spencer-summer-league-stats
I was surprised Furphy wasn't taken in the first round. He looks like an NBA player.
He isn't French.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on July 19, 2024, 09:21:00 AM
https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/tyler-kolek-johnny-furphy-cam-spencer-summer-league-stats
Nice to see Oso with the honorable mention.
6 minites in, Oso 4 boards, a monster block, an assist, a couple.hockey assists. and a steal
score is 21-2
I see Tyko has 5 dimes in 7 mins. :)
Good thing the bucks passed on kolek ::)
Kolek 360 pass.
https://x.com/muoverload/status/1814453410173014436?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw
270. But still awesome.
Tyler playing with enormous amount of confidence. Going to be fun to watch in the coming years.
Until his important, take-charge buckets to put NY ahead to stay, TK played pretty poorly (for him) in the second half IMHO. A little careless with the ball, missed the shots he took, and abused on defense. But he did come through in the end, and overall he's had a great Summer League. Oso had perhaps his best game earlier in the day, with double-digit boards, two monster dunks and nice D.
Each has one more game: The Oso Suns vs Sacramento today at 3 ET (NBATV); the TK Knicks vs Atlanta at 6 ET (ESPN).
Tyler won't play a minute in the NBA
Quote from: Uncle Rico on July 20, 2024, 07:55:35 AM
Tyler won't play a minute in the NBA
You're right, Unk ... he'll play lotsa minutes!
Oso with 6 assists so far in the 1st half
Quote from: MU82 on July 20, 2024, 12:45:21 PM
You're right, Unk ... he'll play lotsa minutes!
The over/under line is Travis.
Seasons: 5
Games: 179
Points: 854
Assists: 432
3PT: 35.3%
FT: 84.7%
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on July 20, 2024, 04:39:00 PM
The over/under line is Travis.
Seasons: 5
Games: 179
Points: 854
Assists: 432
3PT: 35.3%
FT: 84.7%
(Excluding playoffs)
Ps - in three of five seasons, Travis failed to register a single block. :-\
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on July 20, 2024, 04:39:00 PM
The over/under line is Travis.
Seasons: 5
Games: 179
Points: 854
Assists: 432
3PT: 35.3%
FT: 84.7%
I'll take the over.
Not that it matters for his career, but TK had a nice wrapup to the Summer League tonight.
Meh. Oso had more assists than TKo.
https://sny.tv/articles/knicks-mailbag-tyler-kolek-miles-mcbride-cam-payne
Kolek getting mentions in DBR: https://www.dukebasketballreport.com/2024/7/21/24202394/youtube-gold-tyler-kolek-marquette-new-york-knicks-nba-summer-league-ed-coat-kendall-marshall
Quote from: MU82 on July 20, 2024, 10:03:14 PM
I'll take the over.
Not that it matters for his career, but TK had a nice wrapup to the Summer League tonight.
The caveat with Diener's numbers is that I believe he had offers from NBA teams, but decided to spend the rest of his career in Italy.
He might not have increased those numbers much, but just so we don't understate Travis' NBA career. However, I definitely could see Kolek having a long NBA career
I'll take over. TK might end up being an 8-10 year guy.
Quote from: cheebs09 on July 22, 2024, 09:41:53 AM
The caveat with Diener's numbers is that I believe he had offers from NBA teams, but decided to spend the rest of his career in Italy.
He might not have increased those numbers much, but just so we don't understate Travis' NBA career. However, I definitely could see Kolek having a long NBA career
I believe that is correct. Wanted to play and not be an end of the bench guy.
Also, his wife's family roots in Italy played a factor in that decision.
Here are The Athletic's Summer League awards:
Too Good for Summer League Award: Jaime Jaquez Jr., Summer Heat. Jaquez just participated with the USA Select Team and played in two summer league games. He was clearly way too good to be out there. Honorable mention to Cam Whitmore.
Best Summer League Team Award: The Summer Heat. We don't know if #HeatCulture is dying or just hurting, but #SummerHeatCulture is thriving. Miami plays Memphis in the final.
Worst Summer League Team Award: The Summer Bucks. They went 0-4, lost a game by 41, and had a point differential of minus-88 while in Las Vegas.
Best Lottery Pick Award: Reed Sheppard, Summer Rockets. Even though he went on a cold shooting streak from deep after the first game, he averaged 20 points on 50 percent shooting from the field.
Worst Lottery Pick Award: Alex Sarr, Summer Wizards. The 19-year-old had great defensive moments, but he averaged 5.5 points on 19.1 percent from the field and had an 0-for-15 game. He'll be fine, though.
Best Non-Lottery First-Rounder Award: Kel'el Ware, Summer Heat. He scored, he boarded and he was a physical monster against the young guys.
Best Second-Round Pick Award: Tyler Kolek, Summer Knicks. He ran the show for the Summer Knicks and really moved the ball well.
All-Summer League Squad: Jordan Miller, Jalen Wilson, Reed Sheppard, Scotty Pippen Jr., GG Jackson.
Most Valuable Player Award: Jordan Miller, Summer Clippers. He cooked everybody, dropped 36 in a game, and averaged almost 25 a game on 54 percent shooting.
For what it's worth (very little -it's more of an entertainment and take pod than an analysis pod), One Shining Pod had TKO as a summer league all star point guard.
Overview of the Knicks and how TKO will fit into the 2nd unit by a Knicks fan. Skip to ~2:30 to get past the intro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9dz1fuoZm4
https://www.youtube.com/v/W9dz1fuoZm4
Had a TK discussion with a friend who is an NBA scout His focus is Pgs and I commented that I hoped TK would be a good fit and do well. His response was that he would get playing time but that he had an attitude problem. I remarked I hadn't heard that and he said that I wouldn't but it was being discussed at his level. He said Tyler had to realize that he wasn't the top dog on the roster. I was really sorry to hear that and hope this changes, if true.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 12, 2024, 03:28:32 PM
Had a TK discussion with a friend who is an NBA scout His focus is Pgs and I commented that I hoped TK would be a good fit and do well. His response was that he would get playing time but that he had an attitude problem. I remarked I hadn't heard that and he said that I wouldn't but it was being discussed at his level. He said Tyler had to realize that he wasn't the top dog on the roster. I was really sorry to hear that and hope this changes, if true.
That's pretty odd. Hard to believe Tyler would think he's better than Brunson. I mean really? What team does your friend scout for?
Yeah, that story is a bit questionable, but who knows.
Should have stayed in school. He'll never see an NBA court. SMDH
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 12, 2024, 03:28:32 PM
Had a TK discussion with a friend who is an NBA scout His focus is Pgs and I commented that I hoped TK would be a good fit and do well. His response was that he would get playing time but that he had an attitude problem. I remarked I hadn't heard that and he said that I wouldn't but it was being discussed at his level. He said Tyler had to realize that he wasn't the top dog on the roster. I was really sorry to hear that and hope this changes, if true.
TK definitely has an "attitude" but it's not a problem. In fact, it's a big reason he's come this far.
TKo has always been supremely confident. (F'em) He played well in the summer league, which I would speculate did nothing to diminish his confidence. It is easy for me to imagine his confidence being mistaken for arrogance by older, more established teammates.
If he is, Thibs will work it out of him, probably by exposing his defensive limitations.
Yeah put me in the not buying it camp.
If he said it was worried about an attitude problem in college(that went unannounced) thinking he was too good. Yeah, I guess plausible.
But no chance he's thinking he's a top dog stealing minutes from the Knicks starting rotation in year 1. Cmon.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 12, 2024, 03:28:32 PM
Had a TK discussion with a friend who is an NBA scout His focus is Pgs and I commented that I hoped TK would be a good fit and do well. His response was that he would get playing time but that he had an attitude problem. I remarked I hadn't heard that and he said that I wouldn't but it was being discussed at his level. He said Tyler had to realize that he wasn't the top dog on the roster. I was really sorry to hear that and hope this changes, if true.
I'm having a hard time believing this.
Believe what you want. This is a no nonsense NBA guy who was carrying around a large box with a championship ring last summer. He would have no reason to make this up and I brought Tyler's name up to him. We all want him to prosper in the bigs and I was a disappointed as you to hear this. Anyway, he says it's being passed around. Maybe it's rival talk I'm going to think it is
Tyler has an attitude but it would be impressive if his attitude is as big as Jimmy Butler's. Thibs managed Jimmy just fine for a lot of years.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 12, 2024, 09:02:34 PM
Believe what you want. This is a no nonsense NBA guy who was carrying around a large box with a championship ring last summer. He would have no reason to make this up and I brought Tyler's name up to him. We all want him to prosper in the bigs and I was a disappointed as you to hear this. Anyway, he says it's being passed around. Maybe it's rival talk I'm going to think it is
What in the world does him having a championship ring have anything to do with his ability to be credible. You have officially vindicated the Houston Astros!!
Also, whatever is being passed around sure as heck wasnt strong enough to stop the Knicks from giving him a big time contract for a 2nd rounder
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on September 12, 2024, 10:38:53 PM
What in the world does him having a championship ring have anything to do with his ability to be credible. You have officially vindicated the Houston Astros!!
Also, whatever is being passed around sure as heck wasnt strong enough to stop the Knicks from giving him a big time contract for a 2nd rounder
Sounds like TK takes crap seriously and is emotional which should not be a surprise to anyone. Doubt he expects to start
I'm sure a second round draft pick and his poor attitude is the talk of NBA circles.
Quote from: wadesworld on September 13, 2024, 12:47:16 AM
I'm sure a second round draft pick and his poor attitude is the talk of NBA circles.
It's everywhere. Bucks front office threw a party to celebrate not taking him.
Quote from: MUfan12 on September 13, 2024, 08:31:42 AM
It's everywhere. Bucks front office threw a party to celebrate not taking him.
Tough GMs, big scouts, coming to them...tears in their eyes saying "sir, you dodged that diva TKO"
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 12, 2024, 09:02:34 PM
Believe what you want. This is a no nonsense NBA guy who was carrying around a large box with a championship ring last summer. He would have no reason to make this up and I brought Tyler's name up to him. We all want him to prosper in the bigs and I was a disappointed as you to hear this. Anyway, he says it's being passed around. Maybe it's rival talk I'm going to think it is
I'm not disappointed at all because it seems like a crock of poop. There is nothing in his background to suggest he has ever had an attitude problem. Do you think Shaka thinks that way?
Sure he annoys those on the other team because he sh*t talks and is generally annoying, and I can see where a "no nonsense" NBA guy may have a problem with that, but until people associated with the Knicks say he's a problem, I'm not going to think he's a problem.
Quote from: JakeBarnes on September 13, 2024, 09:34:23 AM
Tough GMs, big scouts, coming to them...tears in their eyes saying "sir, you dodged that diva TKO"
But the mainstream media never gives them any credit for not taking him. But that's ok. They've done more for the Bucks than anyone since Don Nelson. Many say even more than Don Nelson.
I think it's just a Celtics-Knicks rivalry POV
When your the top dog, its not an attitude. It's being vocal.
Unfortunately Kolek is not the top dog, so its probably an "attitude"
Again, this is a rival team so I am not so much concerned. The takeaway I got was that he feels TK is talented enough to play in the NBA and will see minutes.
Based on Thibodeau's time in Chicago, I think Tyler's attitude is a perfect fit with the coach.
Tom's dislike of rookies (not named Jimmy Butler) is not as good of a fit.
He didn't really love or play Butler much as a rookie either, for what that's worth. like 9 mpg with about a third of the games DNP-CD. Thibs just don't like rookies.
I wonder if WellStreetWanderer's buddy also confirmed that Tyler can't read.
Quote from: mug644 on September 13, 2024, 09:19:43 PM
I wonder if WellStreetWanderer's buddy also confirmed that Tyler can't read.
Tyler can read, but he has to follow the words with his finger.
It's a problem when he's driving because he can't reach the signs.
Are Tyler Kolek Knicks jerseys available anywhere?
I haven't seen them
Quote from: marqfan22 on September 14, 2024, 01:09:25 PM
Are Tyler Kolek Knicks jerseys available anywhere?
I haven't sent them
How can you send them if they aren't out yet?
Quote from: marqfan22 on September 14, 2024, 01:09:25 PM
Are Tyler Kolek Knicks jerseys available anywhere?
I haven't sent them
His attitude was too bad. Don't need the negative publicity so the NBA will not be selling his jerseys.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on September 12, 2024, 10:38:53 PM
What in the world does him having a championship ring have anything to do with his ability to be credible. You have officially vindicated the Houston Astros!!
Also, whatever is being passed around sure as heck wasnt strong enough to stop the Knicks from giving him a big time contract for a 2nd rounder
He's credible enough to comment. He regularly travels to pg workouts and is part of the team that drafted an NBA championship team. He is in the room on draft day so he is a lot more than a casual fan and his opinion is respected. For him to say TK will see playing time is a compliment from someone who does this for a living
Quote from: marqfan22 on September 14, 2024, 01:09:25 PM
Are Tyler Kolek Knicks jerseys available anywhere?
I haven't seen them
I'm sure you can get one on dh-gate.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 15, 2024, 11:56:19 AM
He's credible enough to comment. He regularly travels to pg workouts and is part of the team that drafted an NBA championship team. He is in the room on draft day so he is a lot more than a casual fan and his opinion is respected. For him to say TK will see playing time is a compliment from someone who does this for a living
Been to a number of MU practices...TK has an edge...never saw him not listen to Shaka and staff. Feels uninformed...
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 15, 2024, 11:56:19 AM
He's credible enough to comment. He regularly travels to pg workouts and is part of the team that drafted an NBA championship team. He is in the room on draft day so he is a lot more than a casual fan and his opinion is respected. For him to say TK will see playing time is a compliment from someone who does this for a living
Again, him having a ring is completely irrelevant to any of that.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on September 12, 2024, 10:38:53 PM
What in the world does him having a championship ring have anything to do with his ability to be credible. You have officially vindicated the Houston Astros!!
Also, whatever is being passed around sure as heck wasnt strong enough to stop the Knicks from giving him a big time contract for a 2nd rounder
...in a large box, no less. Hey man, what's in the large box? 😂
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 12, 2024, 09:02:34 PM
This is a no nonsense NBA guy who was carrying around a large box with a championship ring last summer.
So, he's with the Nuggets? Or is it an even older championship than that? Because the Celtics aren't getting their rings until next month, so it can't be them. Why was the guy carrying around "a large box with a championship ring" many months after getting it? Or is it years?
Regarding Shaka's interview. He said that TKo was the guy who would get in his teammates' faces, challenge them, and hold them accountable. A discussion that TKo was old school that way. I can't help but think that this thread and that part of the interview are related.
TKo continues on like he did at MU. Perhaps it is perceived or received differently.
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on September 15, 2024, 11:56:19 AM
He's credible enough to comment. He regularly travels to pg workouts and is part of the team that drafted an NBA championship team. He is in the room on draft day so he is a lot more than a casual fan and his opinion is respected. For him to say TK will see playing time is a compliment from someone who does this for a living
So just to get this straight this scout said the perception/opinion of Tyler is that he had a bad attitude, but that he will get playing time? Usually that doesn't fly at the NBA level unless you are superstar caliber. That aside no harm to you sharing what you'd heard - just seems kind of odd and opposite of what we know to be true - that Tyler was very coachable and hard working and respected by his teammates.
You're telling me the guy that said "unnatural carnal knowledge 'em" has an attitude? I'm shocked! Shocked! Well not that shocked.
Tyler Kolek is the only guy on an NBA roster who talks any trash.
Since we're playing he said/she said...My BIL owns a very popular pizza spot in Manhattan (3 locations now) that does amazing PR/marketing and as a result has athletes come in all the time. My BIL is also a die hard Knicks fan. Mitchell Robinson and OG were in and they were chatting and he asked them about TK (cause he knows how much I love him/am excited for him to be a Knick) and the two direct things he mentioned to me was they said "he's a wild boy" (which is a compliment for all you non-Gen Z'ers) and that he backs down from nobody. They were looking forward to playing with him.
Attaboy, TK!
(And thanks for that anecdote, Wags.)
Randle... tko kind of guy
KAT... nah. #schism
Losing Divincenzo certainly not bad for Kolek's prospects for rookie playing time.
Favorite hobby napping.
(https://i.imgur.com/TYUtJHk.jpeg)
It's cool that TK and I have the same favorite hobby!
Tyko hasn't seen the floor thus far today. Very disappointed.
Yeah...I don't follow the NBA closely but 11th on the depth chart and behind Payne and McBride seems problematic.
Quote from: avid1010 on October 06, 2024, 06:08:20 PM
Yeah...I don't follow the NBA closely but 11th on the depth chart and behind Payne and McBride seems problematic.
He just blocked a shot and hit a 3 in transition, finished with 11 points
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2024, 06:23:09 PM
He just blocked a shot and hit a 3 in transition, finished with 11 points
Am I correct that he's the 4th option at PG or is it too early to tell?
Quote from: avid1010 on October 06, 2024, 06:37:34 PM
Am I correct that he's the 4th option at PG or is it too early to tell?
Way TOO early to tell. But the Knicks are in win now mode. I'd imagine Thibs will play the vets more
Quote from: Uncle Rico on October 06, 2024, 06:38:40 PM
Way TOO early to tell. But the Knicks are in win now mode. I'd imagine Thibs will play the vets more
And it's a long season.
And he's a second round pick rookie.
Plus he has a bad attitude.
Oso
27 minutes
12 pts 6/8 FG 5 assists 4 reb 1 steal 1 block(3 TOs as the lone negative)
Very nice debut
Thibs is going to love Kolek when he's not a rookie.
Thibs hates rookies, but they will love each other in time.
Quote from: 🏀 on October 07, 2024, 10:12:45 AM
Thibs is going to love Kolek when he's not a rookie.
Thibs hates rookies, but they will love each other in time.
Yep. Same will likely apply with Oso, though his BB IQ will get him some minutes for Bud.
Quote from: MUfan12 on October 07, 2024, 10:14:54 AM
Yep. Same will likely apply with Oso, though his BB IQ will get him some minutes for Bud.
I worry about Oso, the league will catch onto him. He keeps throwing dimes though and he will be serviceable.
From NBA.com
(https://i.imgur.com/B9c7YxQ.png)
Quote from: 🏀 on October 07, 2024, 10:12:45 AM
Thibs is going to love Kolek when he's not a rookie.
Thibs hates rookies, but they will love each other in time.
I agree with this analysis.
Oso getting some serious run
21 more minutes, a lot in the first half.
3/5 for 6 pts with 7 boards and 4 assists 2 blocks. The TOs are the lone blemish again
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on October 08, 2024, 08:56:44 PM
Oso getting some serious run
21 more minutes, a lot in the first half.
3/5 for 6 pts with 7 boards and 4 assists 2 blocks. The TOs are the lone blemish again
How wuz tha d (pawz)
Played a decent amount with the first unit, and they had him bringing the ball up a couple times.
He really landed in a great spot.
Tyler Kolek had 15 points, 5 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals in 17 minutes tonight
Hard to think of a better advertisement for the program and "Shaka way" than these fine two young men excelling in the association. Hopefully they're earning some regular season pt with these performances
Quote from: 1SE on October 10, 2024, 02:50:29 AM
Hard to think of a better advertisement for the program and "Shaka way" than these fine two young men excelling in the association. Hopefully they're earning some regular season pt with these performances
Nice to see Bradley Beal say that on instagram about Shaka and Oso.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 10, 2024, 08:05:02 AM
Nice to see Bradley Beal say that on instagram about Shaka and Oso.
He owes us that much after ruining my trip to Phoenix years ago.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 10, 2024, 08:05:02 AM
Nice to see Bradley Beal say that on instagram about Shaka and Oso.
What did he say?
Quote from: We R Final Four on October 10, 2024, 10:39:54 AM
What did he say?
Beal was commenting on Oso - specifically a pass he'd made and his advanced skill set for a big - Said there's guys that have been in the league 10 years and can't make that pass - it's really a credit to Shaka and what they coach at Marquette.
Something pretty close to that.
Quote from: Elonsmusk on October 10, 2024, 02:01:41 PM
Beal was commenting on Oso - specifically a pass he'd made and his advanced skill set for a big - Said there's guys that have been in the league 10 years and can't make that pass - it's really a credit to Shaka and what they coach at Marquette.
Something pretty close to that.
Nice. Thank you
Quote from: We R Final Four on October 10, 2024, 10:39:54 AM
What did he say?
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QCQufP2KR8mWgghn/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QCQufP2KR8mWgghn/)
Quote from: mug644 on October 10, 2024, 02:44:11 PM
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QCQufP2KR8mWgghn/ (https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QCQufP2KR8mWgghn/)
Dude looks like a proud older brother beaming. That's awesome. That's not generic NBA speak, that's genuine effusive praise from a really good offensive player in the league for a decade...about young rookie. Good for Oso, his passing and movement is gonna be an awesome fit in that offensive scheme
Quote from: JWags85 on October 10, 2024, 08:26:50 PM
Dude looks like a proud older brother beaming. That's awesome. That's not generic NBA speak, that's genuine effusive praise from a really good offensive player in the league for a decade...about young rookie. Good for Oso, his passing and movement is gonna be an awesome fit in that offensive scheme
Agree. That was very specfic...and not stuff the local beat sriter would ask.
Oso and TK are going to end being very wealthy men and I love it. They represented MU in a classy manner and build the foundation for the future of MU basketball. I hope they break the bank two or three times over the next decade.
If Kolek didn't have an attitude he'd be nowhere near an NBA roster. Of course he has an attitude. "Bad?" The guy probably misspoke a bit. Abrasive or belligerent? Perhaps. I don't think it's "bad."
Champagne problems, but I think it's going to hurt that these two guys never made it to a Final Four as their NBA careers progress. Kolek in particular.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on October 13, 2024, 03:18:28 AM
Champagne problems, but I think it's going to hurt that these two guys never made it to a Final Four as their NBA careers progress. Kolek in particular.
Wut?
Tyko/Oso doubleheader today coming up on ESPN.
They serving $8 hot dogs for these NBA exhibitions or wat
Imo Cameron Payne should not be playing ahead of Kolek.
Oso in the game and guarding the Djoker. Missed a wide open 9 footer with his one handed push shot.
Quote from: MUDPT on October 13, 2024, 06:07:52 AM
Wut?
I think Kolek is going to be a really good NBA player. Oso might have a nice career too. I think in 10 years we'll look back on 2022-24 and wonder how they didn't have a deeper tournament run together.
"Champagne problems" because we still saw extraordinary accomplishments these past two years and the program is in great shape.