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Title: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:10:01 PM
Top 5 ever? 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Jockey on June 18, 2024, 08:11:52 PM
The GOAT!
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: tower912 on June 18, 2024, 08:12:52 PM
In the conversation.  All anyone can ask.

RIP.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:12:56 PM
Very sad.  Way before my time but Mays or Aaron?
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: The Sultan on June 18, 2024, 08:14:13 PM
"Hey this guy died. Let's use the occasion to debate if he was better than his peers."
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:15:29 PM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:14:13 PM
"Hey this guy died. Let's use the occasion to debate if he was better than his peers."

Spare us Fluffy. 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: The Sultan on June 18, 2024, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:15:29 PM
Spare us Fluffy. 

Irony.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:21:18 PM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:16:48 PM
Irony.

Respecting Mr. Mays can be about discussing his greatness.  Instead, you decided to make an asinine comment for no reason known to man. 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: The Sultan on June 18, 2024, 08:21:58 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:21:18 PM
Respecting Mr. Mays can be about discussing his greatness.  Instead, you decided to make an asinine comment for no reason known to man. 

More irony.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on June 18, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:21:58 PM
More irony.

Its Muggs involving a human being

You def can't be surprised.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:26:01 PM
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on June 18, 2024, 08:24:38 PM
Its Muggs involving a human being

You def can't be surprised.

I'm not the problem at all.  I was simply asking a question and hoping those who saw him could shed some light on his greatness. 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: The Sultan on June 18, 2024, 08:30:10 PM
He was great.
Aaron was great too.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: dgies9156 on June 18, 2024, 08:36:18 PM
Saw them both in person. They epitomized what baseball is about.

Both Henry Aaron and Willie Mays were ultra-skilled baseball players whose love of the game made their talents look almost effortless.

Mr. Mays suffered from playing in the Arctic Circle of baseball parks -- Candlestick Park in San Francisco -- and his home run total suffered compared to Mr. Aaron's. But they were both incredible and outstanding representatives for the game. Both will be missed terribly.

RIP Willie. You made this fan very happy watching you.

Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:37:37 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 18, 2024, 08:36:18 PM
Saw them both in person. They epitomized what baseball is about.

Both Henry Aaron and Willie Mays were ultra-skilled baseball players whose love of the game made their talents look almost effortless.

Mr. Mays suffered from playing in the Arctic Circle of baseball parks -- Candlestick Park in San Francisco -- and his home run total suffered compared to Mr. Aaron's. But they were both incredible and outstanding representatives for the game. Both will be missed terribly.

RIP Willie. You made this fan very happy watching you.

Ty brother dgies. 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 18, 2024, 08:45:42 PM
Quote from: dgies9156 on June 18, 2024, 08:36:18 PM
Saw them both in person. They epitomized what baseball is about.

Both Henry Aaron and Willie Mays were ultra-skilled baseball players whose love of the game made their talents look almost effortless.

Mr. Mays suffered from playing in the Arctic Circle of baseball parks -- Candlestick Park in San Francisco -- and his home run total suffered compared to Mr. Aaron's. But they were both incredible and outstanding representatives for the game. Both will be missed terribly.

RIP Willie. You made this fan very happy watching you.

Yes, he was a great hitter, but I'll always remember as a 7-year-old watching that catch in the '54 World Series on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrsg_-dV7Q
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Herman Cain on June 18, 2024, 09:14:38 PM
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 08:10:01 PM
Top 5 ever?
Willie Mays was arguably The Greatest Player in Baseball History. Was a joy to watch , saw him live in his late prime when he was still producing .

His 1965 season was one the best individual performances , 52 Home runs was an incredible year  with Home games at Candlestick.

His fielding was the absolute Gold Standard and an incredible arm.

Of course he hung on 4 years too long and is an oft cited example of why players should not stay beyond their expire date.

First Jerry West and now Willie Mays . Losing Icons like they were is tough
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MU82 on June 18, 2024, 09:41:50 PM
I'm a little too young to remember him in his prime, but Mays was my dad's all-time fave.

What I do remember was a guy who always represented baseball with joy and dignity. He LOVED the game, and it showed every time he talked about it.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 18, 2024, 09:50:37 PM
Quote from: MU82 on June 18, 2024, 09:41:50 PM
I'm a little too young to remember him in his prime, but Mays was my dad's all-time fave.

What I do remember was a guy who always represented baseball with joy and dignity. He LOVED the game, and it showed every time he talked about it.

He and Aaron were normal sized guys. But somehow, they thwacked close to 1400 HR's between them. 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Mutaman on June 18, 2024, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 08:14:13 PM
"Hey this guy died. Let's use the occasion to debate if he was better than his peers."

Seems like a reasonable thing to do.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Mutaman on June 18, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: muwarrior69 on June 18, 2024, 08:45:42 PM
Yes, he was a great hitter, but I'll always remember as a 7-year-old watching that catch in the '54 World Series on TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vrsg_-dV7Q

Why weren't you in school? I was 7 and came home from school after that game and all I heard about was some guy named Dusty Rhodes. 

Also we were to poor to own a tv in 1954.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Lennys Tap on June 18, 2024, 10:56:09 PM
Quote from: Mutaman on June 18, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Why weren't you in school? I was 7 and came home from school after that game and all I heard about was some guy named Dusty Rhodes. 

Also we were to poor to own a tv in 1954.

Exactly. I had just turned 6 and was in first grade. No TV, no transistor radios even. Even when the White Sox made the series in '59 we had to run ,home to watch the last couple of innings of the weekday games. Nuns were every bit as mean as Nurse Ratched.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Tyler COLEk on June 19, 2024, 01:27:57 AM
Any baseball fan should spend some time on Mays' baseball reference: https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mayswi01.shtml

10 straight gold gloves in CF. Never had double digit errors in the outfield in a season. OPS+ of 145 in his age 41 season.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: The Sultan on June 19, 2024, 05:46:28 AM
Quote from: Mutaman on June 18, 2024, 10:26:46 PM
Seems like a reasonable thing to do.

Nah
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MU82 on June 19, 2024, 07:03:39 AM
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Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Uncle Rico on June 19, 2024, 07:07:20 AM
He was pretty good
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 19, 2024, 08:30:52 AM
Quote from: Herman Cain on June 18, 2024, 09:14:38 PM
Willie Mays was arguably The Greatest Player in Baseball History. Was a joy to watch , saw him live in his late prime when he was still producing .

His 1965 season was one the best individual performances , 52 Home runs was an incredible year  with Home games at Candlestick.

His fielding was the absolute Gold Standard and an incredible arm.

Of course he hung on 4 years too long and is an oft cited example of why players should not stay beyond their expire date.

First Jerry West and now Willie Mays . Losing Icons like they were is tough

Herman,

Looking at Mr.Mays' stats I noticed he didn't strike out very much.  Neither he nor Aaron had a season with 100 SO's.  I suppose Mays was the better fielder but both guys were incredible.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 19, 2024, 08:32:53 AM
As a side note Ted Willians' stats are completely absurd.   .482 OBP???  WTF? 
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: lawdog77 on June 19, 2024, 08:34:54 AM
Quote from: MuggsyB on June 19, 2024, 08:32:53 AM
As a side note Ted Willians' stats are completely absurd.   .482 OBP???  WTF?
These guys were playing against plumbers and fireman.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MuggsyB on June 19, 2024, 08:49:53 AM
Quote from: lawdog77 on June 19, 2024, 08:34:54 AM
These guys were playing against plumbers and fireman.

Lol.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: muwarrior69 on June 19, 2024, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: Mutaman on June 18, 2024, 10:32:14 PM
Why weren't you in school? I was 7 and came home from school after that game and all I heard about was some guy named Dusty Rhodes. 

Also we were to poor to own a tv in 1954.

My Catholic School started at 8 am and dismissed at 2:15 pm. My mom and dad as well as my grandparents, aunts and uncles were all grateful to have jobs.
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: Pakuni on June 19, 2024, 10:35:25 AM
Who was better, Willie Mays or Willie Mays Hayes?
Title: Re: RIP Willie Mays
Post by: MU82 on June 19, 2024, 10:40:14 AM
Quote from: Pakuni on June 19, 2024, 10:35:25 AM
Who was better, Willie Mays or Willie Mays Hayes?

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