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Title: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on May 10, 2024, 03:19:43 PM
https://x.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1789027137405567394
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 03:23:08 PM
If you are going to use that 13th scholarship, use it on a 7' project.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Tyler COLEk on May 10, 2024, 03:23:50 PM
Appears to be unknown, or at least unranked. Some highlights on this page (uniform #23): https://www.hudl.com/profile/17093641/Joshua-Clark

Blocks some shots, as you might imagine. Certainly looks like he moves well for somebody his size. His teammate Aziz Olajuwon is Hakeem's son.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 10, 2024, 03:27:38 PM
Feels like another guy to stash and red shirt and develop.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 10, 2024, 03:28:17 PM
Always need more projects, that’s 3, wonder if somebody is leaving?
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on May 10, 2024, 03:28:37 PM
Redshirt would seem to make sense.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 03:33:20 PM
Always need more projects, that’s 3, wonder if somebody is leaving?
While the portal is always open, the window to move about freely without waivers is closed.   

So, as usual, I am highly skeptical.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: CountryRoads on May 10, 2024, 03:35:51 PM
Interesting pick up. His size will definitely translate to this level. Seems to have been overlooked by everyone except us as there is very little info on him.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 03:37:40 PM
Welcome, young Mr. Clark.   I look forward to watching your development.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Tha Hound on May 10, 2024, 03:40:05 PM
I'm shocked a 7 footer with this guys frame is so unheralded. Must be incredibly raw. Good thing Shaka is one of the best in the business in developing big men.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wadesworld on May 10, 2024, 03:40:28 PM
Cool.  Strength in numbers if you're going to go projects at the 5 spot.  Go and get a number of them.  Need one of Cadin, Al, or Clark to hit.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 10, 2024, 03:45:46 PM
This seems to be a trend in the Shaka era. Sign an unheralded big, athletic guy and try to develop him

Itejere
Gold
Amadou
Hamilton
Clark

So far only one hit but there's still time for the last three
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 03:46:37 PM
His you tube video shows mostly blocked shots and put backs.

I see good hands, very mobile, shot blocking instincts, and a frame that will easily handle another 25 lbs.

Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Frenns Liquor Depot on May 10, 2024, 03:48:59 PM
This seems to be a trend in the Shaka era. Sign an unheralded big, athletic guy and try to develop him

Itejere
Gold
Amadou
Hamilton
Clark

So far only one hit but there's still time for the last three

Didn’t gold go to the NBA global academy?
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 10, 2024, 03:49:24 PM
Wow!  Out of nowhere!  Interested to hear Shaka's comments on this player.

Welcome Joshua!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on May 10, 2024, 03:56:38 PM
The more I think about it I'd be shocked if he doesn't redshirt. 
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 03:57:38 PM
Yes.   Like Hamilton last season.   

Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 10, 2024, 03:57:56 PM
Always need more projects, that’s 3, wonder if somebody is leaving?

No one is leaving. This is the roster.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 10, 2024, 04:15:08 PM
No one is leaving. This is the roster.

I will say one might be leaving next year.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 04:19:14 PM
Possibly.   Even with Shaka's culture, somebody will want a change.   'Tis the way of it.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MuMark on May 10, 2024, 04:28:16 PM
Wow!  Out of nowhere!  Interested to hear Shaka's comments on this player.

Welcome Joshua!

We are extremely excited about Josh joining our basketball family,” Smart said in a statement. “He possesses tremendous tools and character, has very supportive and aligned parents and comes from a background of winning.  Josh will fit right in with our group’s sustained emphasis on relationships, growth and victory.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MuMark on May 10, 2024, 04:30:11 PM
Jim Hicks has been a fixture on Houston basketball scene for a long time……he had a few comments

https://x.com/rcssports/status/1789043586136215877?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 10, 2024, 04:36:19 PM
Thanks MuMark.  Sounds like another big man project.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 10, 2024, 04:44:10 PM
Thanks MuMark.  Sounds like another big man project.  Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Might be a 5 year project which is good for the kid, if he is any good in 2 years, MU might have there tallest frontcourt ever, Clark, Parham and Gold!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: HouWarrior on May 10, 2024, 05:52:49 PM
Appears to be unknown, or at least unranked. Some highlights on this page (uniform #23): https://www.hudl.com/profile/17093641/Joshua-Clark

Blocks some shots, as you might imagine. Certainly, looks like he moves well for somebody his size. His teammate Aziz Olajuwon is Hakeem's son.
He will have good academics.
Clements High (Ft Bend ISD) is a good academic school. Avg SAT 1350 /ACT 30; 33 Natl Merit Scholars; 92% AP test pass rate, etc

My Niece went there when (2009) their big sports star was QB Derek Carr. I went to one of her HS FB games to see the opposing QB at Strake Jesuit QB Andrew Luck. Clements won;
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Hards Alumni on May 10, 2024, 05:58:41 PM
Hold on a minute, didn't Royce's mom say something about the team needing a 7 footer a couple of weeks ago?  8-)
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Herman Cain on May 10, 2024, 06:14:51 PM
Excellent late 2024 class signing. 7 foot smooth rim protectors don't grow on trees.

This 247 article reflects well on Joshua. 

https://247sports.com/article/nike-eybl-memphis-aj-dybantsa-jasper-johnson-jalen-haralson-shine-on-day-two-joshua-clark-brady-koehler-231122801/

Not to get ahead of things, but if Caedin turns out to be able to pass in college like he did in high school, MU may have some creative pick and roll lineups with both in at the same time.

Looking forward to the Dodds interview  of Joshua when that happens to get the full story . 

In the meantime welcome aboard.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MarquetteMike1977 on May 10, 2024, 06:31:04 PM
Welcome Joshua Clark
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: oldwarrior81 on May 10, 2024, 07:00:42 PM
played high school ball with two of Oljauwon's sons as teammates.

Although neither has his size or anywhere near his talent.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 10, 2024, 07:02:30 PM
Olajuwon tutoring this young man is a Dream scenario.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: We R Final Four on May 10, 2024, 07:28:36 PM
This seems to be a trend in the Shaka era. Sign an unheralded big, athletic guy and try to develop him

Itejere
Gold
Amadou
Hamilton
Clark

So far only one hit but there's still time for the last three
I wouldn’t use unheralded nor athletic to describe Ben Gold before MU.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Tyler COLEk on May 10, 2024, 07:31:45 PM
Ben Steele confirmed he will redshirt his first season: https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1789074381999599912
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: willie warrior on May 10, 2024, 08:14:07 PM
Cool.  Strength in numbers if you're going to go projects at the 5 spot.  Go and get a number of them.  Need one of Cadin, Al, or Clark to hit.
Agreed. Kind of like throwing dung against the wall and hope one sticks.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: duanewade on May 10, 2024, 08:16:11 PM
Fantastic pickup with nothing but big upside... especially when it's for an open 13th scholarship and in May, which is long past the usual recruiting window for good prospects. 

He's skinny but not boney... has a muscular frame as some kids need to stop growing up before they can fill out while others grow up and out at the same time.  He will absorb 20+lbs over the next couple of years.  Then as he approaches 20 and 21 he'll add another 20lbs of grown man muscle, like Oso did as well, and play his junior and senior year at say 7 feet 230 lbs. 

Looks every inch of 7 feet, maybe even 7'1.  A smooth athlete and good mover who can get out on the break with the guards and be a great finisher in transition.  With very long and active arms will definitely be able to cause lots of deflections leading to breaks and fast play which is Marquette's bread and butter.  One of the videos shows him even guarding players off the dribble near the free throw line and shuffling quickly right with them to the basket before timing their shot and blocking it. 

In the warm up video, he even shows the ability to take outside shots about ten feet away, although at this point he just plays as a tip in and dunker type scorer.

Truly can't believe this kid with his size and potential didn't have at least 3 to 4 major conference scholarship offers already based on his upside potential alone.  Of course in this era of transfer mania, it doesn't behoove coaches to find late bloomers with large upsides anymore as they used to be stuck with you a couple years and you got the benefit of their upside.  Now you sink years into feeding and developing players like this who aren't physically ready their first year or two, and then the minute they reach their upside the major conference teams entice them to transfer.  :(

Once again, it was smart for Shaka to get the whole family's buy in as to what Marquette under Shaka is all about with a concentration on internal player development and loyalty.  With a player like this, it is imperative he is just as committed to Marquette over the long run as we are to him.
 
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Herman Cain on May 10, 2024, 08:18:45 PM
Fantastic pickup with nothing but big upside... especially when it's for an open 13th scholarship and in May, which is long past the usual recruiting window for good prospects. 

He's skinny but not boney... has a muscular frame as some kids need to stop growing up before they can fill out while others grow up and out at the same time.  He will absorb 20+lbs over the next couple of years.  Then as he approaches 20 and 21 he'll add another 20lbs of grown man muscle, like Oso did as well, and play his junior and senior year at say 7 feet 230 lbs. 

Looks every inch of 7 feet, maybe even 7'1.  A smooth athlete and good mover who can get out on the break with the guards and be a great finisher in transition.  With very long and active arms will definitely be able to cause lots of deflections leading to breaks and fast play which is Marquette's bread and butter.  One of the videos shows him even guarding players off the dribble near the free throw line and shuffling quickly right with them to the basket before timing their shot and blocking it. 

In the warm up video, he even shows the ability to take outside shots about ten feet away, although at this point he just plays as a tip in and dunker type scorer.

Truly can't believe this kid with his size and potential didn't have at least 3 to 4 major conference scholarship offers already based on his upside potential alone.  Of course in this era of transfer mania, it doesn't behoove coaches to find late bloomers with large upsides anymore as they used to be stuck with you a couple years and you got the benefit of their upside.  Now you sink years into feeding and developing players like this who aren't physically ready their first year or two, and then the minute they reach their upside the major conference teams entice them to transfer.  :(

Once again, it was smart for Shaka to get the whole family's buy in as to what Marquette under Shaka is all about with a concentration on internal player development and loyalty.  With a player like this, it is imperative he is just as committed to Marquette over the long run as we are to him.
I agree with this analysis.
Ben Steele confirmed he will redshirt his first season: https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1789074381999599912
Excellent News on redshirting.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: willie warrior on May 10, 2024, 08:19:52 PM
I wouldn’t use unheralded nor athletic to describe Ben Gold before MU.
How dare you try to destroy that guy's narrative.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Scoop Snoop on May 10, 2024, 08:58:06 PM

 Of course in this era of transfer mania, it doesn't behoove coaches other than guys like Shaka to find late bloomers with large upsides anymore as they used to be stuck with you a couple years and you got the benefit of their upside.  Now you sink years into feeding and developing players like this who aren't physically ready their first year or two, and then the minute they reach their upside the major conference teams entice them to transfer.  Unless they buy into Shaka's system and stay at Marquette.

FIFY
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 10, 2024, 08:59:19 PM
I wouldn’t use unheralded nor athletic to describe Ben Gold before MU.

Yes unranked Ben Gold who chose Marquette over *checks notes* Washington State and Loyola was the defintion of heralded.

If you don't think he's athletic,  we'll just have to agree to disagree
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Vander Blue Man Group on May 10, 2024, 09:59:22 PM
Agreed. Kind of like throwing dung against the wall and hope one sticks.

Thank you for this insightful post.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Lennys Tap on May 10, 2024, 10:29:29 PM
This seems to be a trend in the Shaka era. Sign an unheralded big, athletic guy and try to develop him

Itejere
Gold
Amadou
Hamilton
Clark

So far only one hit but there's still time for the last three

And the one hit wasn’t as unheralded as the others.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MU82 on May 10, 2024, 10:35:11 PM
If this new aircraft carrier of Shaka's will shoot midrange jumpers, Scoop will be giddy with delight.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: THRILLHO on May 10, 2024, 11:00:20 PM
Ben Steele confirmed he will redshirt his first season: https://twitter.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1789074381999599912
Great, that's a real thing and it's an official status and can't wait until the paperwork is signed and his redshirt status is official!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: The Lens on May 11, 2024, 07:21:20 AM
Ben Gold - Junior
Al - Sophomore
Caed Hamilton - Freshman
Josh Clark - Red Shirt

This is an absolute master class in roster construction

[insert the the Hannibal / A Team I love it when a plan comes together gif]
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Uncle Rico on May 11, 2024, 07:25:40 AM
Was waiting for Dung Willie to chime in.  What a miserable human being.

Welcome aboard, Josh!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Viper on May 11, 2024, 08:23:45 AM
Ben Gold - Junior
Al - Sophomore
Caed Hamilton - Freshman
Josh Clark - Red Shirt

This is an absolute master class in roster construction

[insert the the Hannibal / A Team I love it when a plan comes together gif]
is it a master class in roster construction? Who knows?
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 11, 2024, 08:41:14 AM
is it a master class in roster construction? Who knows?

4 under recruited bigs, it will be interesting to follow there development.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 11, 2024, 09:38:09 AM
is it a master class in roster construction? Who knows?
The Bo Ryan handbook.   You should be excited.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wiscwarrior on May 11, 2024, 09:44:03 AM
Agreed. Kind of like throwing dung against the wall and hope one sticks.

Referring to players who choose MU as dung? Really?   ::) >:(
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: milwaukee ex-pat on May 11, 2024, 10:08:29 AM
Ben Gold - Junior
Al - Sophomore
Caed Hamilton - Freshman
Josh Clark - Red Shirt

This is an absolute master class in roster construction

[insert the the Hannibal / A Team I love it when a plan comes together gif]

I agree with this analysis
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: PJDunn on May 11, 2024, 10:32:12 AM
Shaka is taking a page out of Matt Painter's handbook, and that is a good thing.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MUbiz on May 11, 2024, 10:42:43 AM
He just signed.

https://twitter.com/MarquetteMBB/status/1789294537854054570?t=ynKB5vHMWDqPgDBxt-ne_Q&s=19
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Zog from Margo on May 11, 2024, 11:17:20 AM
Welcome, Mr. Clark!

JC looks very young. Shaka continues to look for players on the rise.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MU82 on May 11, 2024, 11:27:23 AM
Even if he can't score at all 2-3 years from now (and we don't know if that'll be the case), having an athletic 7-footer on the court can have real defensive benefits.

Excited to see where this goes.

Nice job, Shaka. Welcome to Marquette, JC!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Daniel on May 11, 2024, 12:34:22 PM
I have a feeling this you g man is going to be very.  Very good in Shaka’s system, and ability to develop players.  Excited and welcome Josh to the Marquette family!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: HutchwasClutch on May 11, 2024, 02:07:05 PM
Like the addition.  Long and looks like a legit 7 footer.  Looks like he’s been well coached too - plays under control, keeps the ball up after he catches it.  Good hands. Seems like a lot to work with.  Maybe another lightly recruited big man project that pays off big time for the program like McCaskill.  We’ll see.  Here’s hoping.

Agree with others hard to believe no one else willing to take a flyer on a guy with his size and skill set and try to develop him.  Maybe speaks volumes how majority of schools just want instant help from the portal and ignore projects like this kid now. 
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 11, 2024, 02:37:23 PM
Next year Shaka needs to add a player or two that are ready to play, but with 10 players back the following year, can players think they might not play and want to play right away somewhere else?
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: jfp61 on May 11, 2024, 02:41:37 PM
Next year Shaka needs to add a player or two that are ready to play, but with 10 players back the following year, can players think they might not play and want to play right away somewhere else?

Sounds like they have a whole 18 months to figure it out. So in modern college basketball, there are no problems.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 11, 2024, 02:52:42 PM
Sounds like they have a whole 18 months to figure it out. So in modern college basketball, there are no problems.

More like 7 months since he does not believe in the portal!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: DoctorV on May 11, 2024, 03:24:24 PM
Ben Gold - Junior
Al - Sophomore
Caed Hamilton - Freshman
Josh Clark - Red Shirt

This is an absolute master class in roster construction

[insert the the Hannibal / A Team I love it when a plan comes together gif]

It’s definitely a planned construction, but I wouldn’t call it masterclass until

A) we see how Ben does with starters minutes.
B) we see Al, Caedin, and Josh play 10 minutes in a single game to see what Marquette has.

Masterclass would be Oso coming back for his Covid year- like Kalkbrenner, who is actually rated higher than him by the BE voting folks- and then Benny taking the spare minutes at the 5 along with minutes at the 4 and being the senior starter next year and then on down the line with the others to see who pops for for future.

When someone starts, if they are successful in Shaka’s system, they pretty much lock up that spot until they are gone.
So, if Ben plays well this year he’s got a starters role for 2 seasons- maybe he moves to the 4 next year to open a spot for one of the younger guys at the 5, but maybe not.

Without having seen either really play at all, I’d say that Al and Josh are very similar in Shaka’s roster construction, and by next spring Shaka will know which one will be better long term despite the redshirt.
The developmental efforts will then go into that one.
If they both show promise, you can’t really lose with two long and lanky dunkers who block shots and hopefully rebound in the Shaka system, as those are very necessary assets in that role.

We forgot to mention Royce in this btw, who at 6’8 and with a big frame would play the 5 on many ncaab squads, but will likely play the 4 at MU with all the other bigs
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Zog from Margo on May 11, 2024, 05:36:42 PM
Next year Shaka needs to add a player or two that are ready to play, but with 10 players back the following year, can players think they might not play and want to play right away somewhere else?

For 2025-26, Shaka will have (barring injury or transfer out) Ross and Gold as seniors, Norman, Lowery and Amadou as juniors, Hamilton, Owens, and Parham as sophomores, and Clark, a PG, a SG, and a forward as freshmen. Sounds decent to me. We’ll see.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BCHoopster on May 11, 2024, 05:49:42 PM
For 2025-26, Shaka will have (barring injury or transfer out) Ross and Gold as seniors, Norman, Lowery and Amadou as juniors, Hamilton, Owens, and Parham as sophomores, and Clark, a PG, a SG, and a forward as freshmen. Sounds decent to me. We’ll see.

Forgot Sean Jones! 10 players back.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Zog from Margo on May 11, 2024, 05:52:47 PM
Forgot Sean Jones! 10 players back.

You’re right. Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 11, 2024, 06:56:13 PM
Shaka is amazing as a coach and a recruiter, building a roster with talented, big guards and multiple 6'10" big men. Thank you Shaka for bringing Marquette back to glory.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MuggsyB on May 11, 2024, 07:17:31 PM
7 feet is 7 feet.   I trust Shaka.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: cheebs09 on May 11, 2024, 07:35:12 PM
7 feet is 7 feet.   I trust Shaka.

Plus, Shaka had some serious success with big men at Texas. I trust he knows what he's looking for.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wadesworld on May 11, 2024, 07:40:26 PM
Plus, Shaka had some serious success with big men at Texas. I trust he knows what he's looking for.

He did, but most of those guys were 5 star one and dones.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 12, 2024, 05:54:13 AM
Enough of the one and done drop outs.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: willie warrior on May 12, 2024, 06:11:14 AM
Referring to players who choose MU as dung? Really?   ::) >:(
Reading is fundamental. Only reference was the old saying, which has been used millions of times. The inference you make is yours. Really?
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: WhiteTrash on May 12, 2024, 08:20:14 AM
Reading is fundamental. Only reference was the old saying, which has been used millions of times. The inference you make is yours. Really?
It's 2024, only words matter, not your intent or actions. Go ask McDermott about using "old sayings".
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Viper on May 12, 2024, 08:29:30 AM
Shaka is amazing as a coach and a recruiter, building a roster with talented, big guards and multiple 6'10" big men. Thank you Shaka for bringing Marquette back to glory.
did mu go F4 and I missed it? Damn it! I thought it was S16 smoke. My bad.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: muwarrior69 on May 12, 2024, 08:49:10 AM
7 feet is 7 feet.   I trust Shaka.

With 7 feet how can he called for traveling?
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: The Thing on May 12, 2024, 09:02:04 AM
But is he an aircraft carrier? Scoop tells me that’s what we need.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Badgerhater on May 12, 2024, 09:05:50 AM
did mu go F4 and I missed it? Damn it! I thought it was S16 smoke. My bad.

So are we doing this again?

MU is on the rise and it’s been a fun ride so far.  All signs show that it will continue, let’s enjoy it.


(Autocorrect initially turned fun into grim, which seems weird.  Perhaps bad autocorrect is the true cause of Scoop angst)
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wiscwarrior on May 12, 2024, 09:39:02 AM
Reading is fundamental. Only reference was the old saying, which has been used millions of times. The inference you make is yours. Really?

Would you like to be a recruit and referred to as dung? Just askin'.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: PointWarrior on May 12, 2024, 11:53:14 AM
Would you like to be a recruit and referred to as dung? Just askin'.

He’s our resident dung poster. 
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: We R Final Four on May 12, 2024, 12:19:46 PM
So are we doing this again?

MU is on the rise and it’s been a fun ride so far.  All signs show that it will continue, let’s enjoy it.


(Autocorrect initially turned fun into grim, which seems weird.  Perhaps bad autocorrect is the true cause of Scoop angst)
Badgerhater vs. Badgerlover
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 12, 2024, 12:26:32 PM
It appears that Shaka also felt there was not enough size.   The 24 class is Parham, Owens, and Clark.  The 23 class was Hamilton, Amadou, Tre, and Zaide.  For those keeping track at home,
6'3
6'5
6'7
6'9
6'9
6'9
7'0
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: mileskishnish72 on May 12, 2024, 01:22:55 PM
It appears that Shaka also felt there was not enough size.   The 24 class is Parham, Owns, and Clark.  The 23 class was Hamilton, Aidoo, Tre, and Zaide.  For those keeping track at home,
6'3
6'5
6'7
6'9
6'9
6'9
7'0

Well, of course Shaka studies Scoop, where Scoopers are always bitching about poor rebounding.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 12, 2024, 01:35:37 PM
Clearly.   Hopefully, he stays away from the political stuff.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Scoop Snoop on May 12, 2024, 01:59:29 PM
did mu go F4 and I missed it? Damn it! I thought it was S16 smoke. My bad.

 Shaka should be in the hot seat if he doesn't get us at least into the FF this coming season. S 16 is hot, smokin' dung.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wadesworld on May 12, 2024, 02:12:59 PM
Shaka should be in the hot seat if he doesn't get us at least into the FF this coming season. S 16 is hot, smokin' dung.

None of that matters if he can’t beat RED!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: PGsHeroes32 on May 12, 2024, 02:15:10 PM
It appears that Shaka also felt there was not enough size.   The 24 class is Parham, Owens, and Clark.  The 23 class was Hamilton, Aidoo, Tre, and Zaide.  For those keeping track at home,
6'3
6'5
6'7
6'9
6'9
6'9
7'0

Jonas realized marquette was always home?

Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 12, 2024, 02:45:43 PM
Amadou auto corrected and I missed it.   Rat farts.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Badgerhater on May 12, 2024, 02:50:19 PM
Amadou auto corrected and I missed it.   Rat farts.

That was a grim autocorrect.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: pbiflyer on May 12, 2024, 02:52:05 PM
Amadou auto corrected and I missed it.   Rat farts.

Spaulding! Language!
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Jay Bee on May 12, 2024, 02:58:42 PM
He did, but most of those guys were 5 star one and dones.

#FakeNews#Lies
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Viper on May 12, 2024, 03:18:28 PM
So are we doing this again?

MU is on the rise and it’s been a fun ride so far.  All signs show that it will continue, let’s enjoy it.


(Autocorrect initially turned fun into grim, which seems weird.  Perhaps bad autocorrect is the true cause of Scoop angst)
me personally, I love the past 3 seasons. On a solid trend. Excited to see where it goes. Can’t wait for October to get things going again. But, glory? That’s all I was saying. Nothing grim.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: PointWarrior on May 12, 2024, 04:20:42 PM
None of that matters if he can’t beat RED!


One more loss to Gard and Shaka will be on the hot seat. 
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: warriorchick on May 12, 2024, 04:35:49 PM

One more loss to Gard and Shaka will be on the hot seat.

I have a weird feeling that's not going to be an issue next season.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: 94Warrior on May 12, 2024, 04:51:48 PM
I have a weird feeling that's not going to be an issue next season.
I have that weird feeling most years, until it is.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 12, 2024, 08:21:45 PM
I bet those 6'9" s flip over to be 6'10" s next season.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 12, 2024, 08:23:11 PM
I bet those 6'9" s flip over to be 6'10" s next season.
All the growth hormone in the frozen custard.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: duanewade on May 13, 2024, 09:44:36 AM
Could someone with a subscription give us a CliffsNotes synopsis on this article?

https://x.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1790005641727066544
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Shooter McGavin on May 13, 2024, 10:19:44 AM
Could someone with a subscription give us a CliffsNotes synopsis on this article?

https://x.com/BenSteeleMJS/status/1790005641727066544

He’s 17 and only 220 lbs.  Played on the same team as two of Hakeem Olajuwon’s sons.  Knows him well.  Shaka talked to Hakeem before the signing. 

One week recruitment.  Shaka went to Texas after watching an online tournament. He came to MU and committed.  He understands he needs to redshirt to become  stronger.

Shaka reiterated he doesn’t take portal players. 

Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: duanewade on May 13, 2024, 10:45:33 AM
He’s 17 and only 220 lbs.  Played on the same team as two of Hakeem Olajuwon’s sons.  Knows him well.  Shaka talked to Hakeem before the signing. 

One week recruitment.  Shaka went to Texas after watching an online tournament. He came to MU and committed.  He understands he needs to redshirt to become  stronger.

Shaka reiterated he doesn’t take portal players.
🙏👍
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MUbiz on May 13, 2024, 10:50:16 AM
🙏👍

I will add to that - both of his parents are in the military and he fits MU culture very well. There was parental buy in on the RS.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 13, 2024, 11:02:22 AM
Thanks for the thumbnail sketch.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: BrewCity83 on May 13, 2024, 11:16:02 AM
I'll also add that he's been working on "guard stuff" like ballhandling with T.J. Ford.  And he won't turn 18 until August.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: We R Final Four on May 13, 2024, 11:45:52 AM

Shaka reiterated he doesn’t take portal players.
Shhhh…some scoopers don’t want to hear that.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 13, 2024, 11:51:09 AM
He certainly won't during this offseason.   If there are unexpected departures, he may rethink it.   Until then, recruit, retain, develop.    Kickin it old school.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: We R Final Four on May 13, 2024, 11:53:55 AM
He certainly won't during this offseason.   If there are unexpected departures, he may rethink it.   Until then, recruit, retain, develop.    Kickin it old school.
As we’ve discussed, Shaka is going to great lengths to avoid “unexpected departures” to anywhere other than the professional ranks.
His approach is based upon known departures.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: DienerTime34 on May 13, 2024, 11:56:18 AM
Shhhh…some scoopers don’t want to hear that.

I know it's become a Scoop meme at this point, but despite my love for Shaka, a hard-and-fast rule of "no transfer portal" is short-sighted.

I don't know how many here follow college football, but Clemson's Dabo Swinney is following this approach, believing team camaraderie and cohesiveness will carry the day. But it hasn't been working out for him.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MUbiz on May 13, 2024, 12:07:53 PM
I know it's become a Scoop meme at this point, but despite my love for Shaka, a hard-and-fast rule of "no transfer portal" is short-sighted.

I don't know how many here follow college football, but Clemson's Dabo Swinney is following this approach, believing team camaraderie and cohesiveness will carry the day. But it hasn't been working out for him.

I understand what you are saying, but Dabo is the highest paid or one of the highest paid in the sport of college football at $15M a year. He also has the highest collective budget for his assistants. The highest paid assistant in country works at Clemson with a salary of $2m per year.  There are natty expectations with that salary especially since he has won 2 in the past pre NIL.

You also can't compare 125 player rosters with 85 scholarships to 13 scholarships where 10 people play max. This is comparing apples to oranges to say the least. Shaka has showed his system can work the last two years and we will see in another 2 years what exactly will happen.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 13, 2024, 12:34:26 PM
I know it's become a Scoop meme at this point, but despite my love for Shaka, a hard-and-fast rule of "no transfer portal" is short-sighted.

I don't know how many here follow college football, but Clemson's Dabo Swinney is following this approach, believing team camaraderie and cohesiveness will carry the day. But it hasn't been working out for him.
And if he has a 3 player recruiting this season, the only way MU has an opening is if somebody leaves unexpectedly.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MU82 on May 13, 2024, 04:29:50 PM
I know it's become a Scoop meme at this point, but despite my love for Shaka, a hard-and-fast rule of "no transfer portal" is short-sighted.

It's a good thing that Shaka doesn't have such a rigid rule.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 13, 2024, 04:30:50 PM
I know it's become a Scoop meme at this point, but despite my love for Shaka, a hard-and-fast rule of "no transfer portal" is short-sighted.

I don't know how many here follow college football, but Clemson's Dabo Swinney is following this approach, believing team camaraderie and cohesiveness will carry the day. But it hasn't been working out for him.

There is no hard and fast rule. He's just very choosy about who takes in the portal and all other things being equal would take a high school recruit over a portal recruit
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Spaniel with a Short Tail on May 14, 2024, 08:48:57 AM
He certainly won't during this offseason.   If there are unexpected departures, he may rethink it.   Until then, recruit, retain, develop.    Kickin it old school.

(https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.akJ_Cgbod3LjO-xepjDQgAHaEK&pid=Api&P=0&h=220)
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Billy Hoyle on May 14, 2024, 11:11:18 AM
There is no hard and fast rule. He's just very choosy about who takes in the portal and all other things being equal would take a high school recruit over a portal recruit

you are right on. I'm sure he would take a transfer portal kid if the right one came along and wasn't making ridiculous financial demands, especially demands that could disrupt team chemistry. There's a reason we are one of the only D1 programs out of 360+ without a single player in the Portal.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wadesworld on May 14, 2024, 11:22:41 AM
While I don't expect Shaka's teams to prioritize the glass, imagining a lineup in 2.5 years of 6'4" Norman, 6'5" (and seemingly a very good rebounder for his size) Lowery, 6'8" Damarius Owens, 6'8" Royce Parham, and any of 7' Joshua Clark/6'9" Al Amadou/6'9" Caedin Hamilton should ease some of the rebounding concerns.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MuMark on May 14, 2024, 11:30:22 AM
Really good interview with Josh from Dom and Dodds at 247

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/article/-here-is-our-2-on-1-interview-with-new-24-commit-7-0-c-joshua-clark-will-red-shirt-in-24-25-231754755/
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MUbiz on May 14, 2024, 11:38:18 AM
While I don't expect Shaka's teams to prioritize the glass, imagining a lineup in 2.5 years of 6'4" Norman, 6'5" (and seemingly a very good rebounder for his size) Lowery, 6'8" Damarius Owens, 6'8" Royce Parham, and any of 7' Joshua Clark/6'9" Al Amadou/6'9" Caedin Hamilton should ease some of the rebounding concerns.

Been saying this to whomever listens. It seems like Shaka is prioritizing size. It reminds me of Dan Hurley after his first 2 years at UConn when they were mid to bottom of the conference and UConn fans were calling for his job. He decided he needed to get bigger, stronger and more athletic. And he did it with sub 50 recruits for the most part whom he developed. 
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: MU82 on May 14, 2024, 12:33:38 PM
Really good interview with Josh from Dom and Dodds at 247

https://247sports.com/college/marquette/article/-here-is-our-2-on-1-interview-with-new-24-commit-7-0-c-joshua-clark-will-red-shirt-in-24-25-231754755/

“I have a mid-range game”

NOPE!

Seriously, he sounds like a bright kid who is coachable and hungry to improve. Looking forward to seeing how he develops.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: jfp61 on May 14, 2024, 01:41:45 PM
6'4 as a freshman, moved to texas between freshman and sophmore year. 6'7 as a sophomore, moved within Texas his sophomore to Junior year. 6'7 as a Junior playing behind a 7 footer who plays at Santa Clara. 7 foot as a senior. Near perfect season.

Yea, you bet on this profile.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Stretchdeltsig on May 14, 2024, 02:54:50 PM
7'4" as a 19 year old Warrior.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: Tyler COLEk on May 14, 2024, 03:24:27 PM
Marquette Wemby incoming.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: tower912 on May 15, 2024, 05:48:11 AM
Mental picture.   Sean standing next to him giving him directions.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: TAMU, Knower of Ball on May 23, 2024, 12:12:48 AM
Was looking for something else and stumbled on this article a couple of weeks before Clark's commitment: https://247sports.com/article/nike-eybl-memphis-aj-dybantsa-jasper-johnson-jalen-haralson-shine-on-day-two-joshua-clark-brady-koehler-231122801/

Quote
Unsigned senior Joshua Clark turns heads

The chapter is near closing on the 2024 class but there are some still unsigned and available out there, competing around the country this spring.

One of those seniors turned heads on Saturday when Joshua Clark took the floor with LivOn against Brad Beal Elite.

The seven-footer has great size, length and a promising frame although he is thin at this stage.

He has plenty of untapped potential but what stood out what his mobility, hands and rim protection on the defensive end of the court.

When Clark's frame fills out and as he continues to develop his game, he can be a late steal for someone in the 2024 class.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wadesworld on May 23, 2024, 06:09:46 PM
https://247sports.com/player/john-clark-46140442/

Anybody know if this is a relative? Both from Texas.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 23, 2024, 06:13:29 PM
https://247sports.com/player/john-clark-46140442/

Anybody know if this is a relative? Both from Texas.

It says he's from Missouri.
Title: Re: New 2024 Committment According to Ben Steele: Joshua Clark
Post by: wadesworld on May 23, 2024, 07:04:52 PM
It says he's from Missouri.

Link Academy is in Missouri but is a basketball school. If you scroll down it says he’s a 6’8” power forward from Houston.