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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: rgoode57 on March 22, 2024, 08:17:21 PM
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I think Colorado is a tough match-up. They are long, athletic, move the ball well and aggressive on the boards. And Lampkin, their big guy is a load. Oso will have his hands full. MU will have to bring their A-game.
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I think Colorado is a tough match-up. They are long, athletic, move the ball well and aggressive on the boards. And Lampkin, their big guy is a load. Oso will have his hands full. MU will have to bring their A-game.
I agree with this analysis. lLampkin is a load and your other points are accurate.
That aside, I’m hoping that Kam continues on his late season heater. Gold may play some valuable minutes too as other than Lampkin, he can matchup pretty well with the other CU lengthy players.
Sure hope Chase pulls it together as we do need some contributions from him if he is going to be a primary sub.
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Colorado probably thinks we are a tough matchup.
Lampkin is good but slow and on his 3rd game in 5 days. Could be slow back on transition.
Feel like if every team doesn’t bring their A game at this level, that team is going home.
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I hadn’t seen much of Colorado before today but I know 2 things from watching them and the rest of the tournament.
1. The PAC 12 was underrated
2. Colorado can really shoot the ball.
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Da Silva is legit. After that, eff em
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Marquette -4
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Marquette -4
Missing a 1 before the 4?
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Missing a 1 before the 4?
You're free to hammer it.
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Neon Deion coaching the basketball team?
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Colorado probably thinks we are a tough matchup.
Lampkin is good but slow and on his 3rd game in 5 days. Could be slow back on transition.
Feel like if every team doesn’t bring their A game at this level, that team is going home.
The bolded is true. What is also true, is if both teams bring their A-game, we are going to advance and they are going home.
So we just need to bring our A-game.
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Colorado has been rolling as of late. However, if you all dont think we can get past a 10 seed, then why was there all this talk about a final four run throughout the season.
We were a constant in the top 10 all season, we have a senior laden team, our corner of the bracket has been blown wide open. Games are going to get harder each round, but it’s time for Marquette to feast.
At the end of the day, we control our own destiny. Play the way we did in the first half and we lose to any of the other 67 teams in the tournament. play the way we did in the second half and we could be in “hoopin” in April
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B+ will win it too.
I wish to see an A game....we've seen it at times but still looking for consistency for 40
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I'd say this game is a toss-up.
https://barttorvik.com/trank.php?&year=2024&t1l=Colorado&t2l=Marquette#
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When is the time usally released
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Colorado has been rolling as of late. However, if you all dont think we can get past a 10 seed, then why was there all this talk about a final four run throughout the season.
CU isn’t really a 10 seed, talent-wise. They were a top 25ish team preseason, but had a lot of injury problems and had a few resulting lulls during the season that knocked them down a bit. But they’ve been playing well down the stretch and are likely closer to a 6 or 7 seed talent-wise. Tad Boyle has been a decent coach and has put together some good runs every few years.
Offensively, they can be just as good as MU. Not quite as strong defensively, but they can definitely beat us, especially if we play like the end of the first half today.
That said, they can be inconsistent at times and haven’t beat anyone of MU’s caliber. But I expect a pretty competitive game.
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When is the time usally released
After today's games are all final
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Where’s the u of Colorado porn star, er famous alumni thread? Time’s running out.
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I'd say this game is a toss-up.
https://barttorvik.com/trank.php?&year=2024&t1l=Colorado&t2l=Marquette#
Marquette wins by 20+
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Marquette wins by 20+
This is correct
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Mods are all COLE.
Could we lose on Sunday. Sure. But we’re the better team and favored.
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Marquette wins by 20+
-6.5 is a lock. Why people are nervous about a team who literally just gave up 100 points in 40 minutes is beyond me.
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-6.5 is a lock. Why people are nervous about a team who literally just gave up 100 points in 40 minutes is beyond me.
Well...to be fair...they also scored over 100.
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Well...to be fair...they also scored over 100.
Florida is a terrible defensive team
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How was Colorado a 10
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How is Colorado a 10 seed when every metric I see has them as a 4/5? Kam's gonna need to score 30+
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How is Colorado a 10 seed when every metric I see has them as a 4/5? Kam's gonna need to score 30+
CU isn’t really a 10 seed, talent-wise. They were a top 25ish team preseason, but had a lot of injury problems and had a few resulting lulls during the season that knocked them down a bit. But they’ve been playing well down the stretch and are likely closer to a 6 or 7 seed talent-wise.
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Colorado has three potential NBA draft picks including a likely lottery pick on their roster. They are more talented than your typical 10-seed. But they'll be playing their 3rd game in 5 days. Also due to injuries their rotation is 5 guys, a hobbled Cody Williams, and 2 warm bodies. Run em into the ground and win by double digits. Leggo
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Colorado has three potential NBA draft picks including a likely lottery pick on their roster. They are more talented than your typical 10-seed. But they'll be playing their 3rd game in 5 days. Also due to injuries their rotation is 5 guys, a hobbled Cody Williams, and 2 warm bodies. Run em into the ground and win by double digits. Leggo
Florida attempted to run them into the ground and gave up over 100.
They’re 18-22 year olds. They don’t need a ton of recovery time.
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Not quite as strong defensively, but they can definitely beat us, especially if we play like the end of the first half today.
No kidding. Georgetown could beat us if we played like we did at the end of the first half today.
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Florida attempted to run them into the ground and gave up over 100.
They’re 18-22 year olds. They don’t need a ton of recovery time.
Florida is terrible defensively and can’t force turnovers which Colorado begs you to do.
We could lose, but the matchup is just fine.
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Florida is terrible defensively and can’t force turnovers which Colorado begs you to do.
We could lose, but the matchup is just fine.
I think we win. But there are a lot of teams this weekend that should’ve won and didn’t. I’m not sure running them into the ground is the best game plan. I trust our half court offense more than our transition game.
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Games are supposed to get tougher as you advance. Colorado is a good team.
That said, looking at the kind of teams that usually give us trouble - big, physical teams that crush the boards and punish TK - Colorado isn’t that.
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Games are supposed to get tougher as you advance. Colorado is a good team.
That said, looking at the kind of teams that usually give us trouble - big, physical teams that crush the boards and punish TK - Colorado isn’t that.
Bingo. Just beat the next team
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God, the way people are posting here you’d think Marquette should just pack up and head home.
It’s the NCAA tournament, anything can happen… including us making a final four.
I get it Colo is an above average 10 seed. But we’ve been a top 10 team in the country all freaking year.
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Florida attempted to run them into the ground and gave up over 100.
They’re 18-22 year olds. They don’t need a ton of recovery time.
They also scored 100. We're a lot better defensively than Florida is and on par offensively. We're also 5-0 in games with 74+ possessions. We're 17-3 in games with 69+ possessions (9-6 in games with 68 or less). Track meets are good for us.
They don't. But they need more after a season's worth of injuries especially a player playing on a bum ankle.
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God, the way people are posting here you’d think Marquette should just pack up and head home.
It’s the NCAA tournament, anything can happen… including us making a final four.
I get it Colo is an above average 10 seed. But we’ve been a top 10 team in the country all freaking year.
We are Marquette Golden Worriers.
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God, the way people are posting here you’d think Marquette should just pack up and head home.
It’s the NCAA tournament, anything can happen… including us making a final four.
I get it Colo is an above average 10 seed. But we’ve been a top 10 team in the country all freaking year.
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Bingo. Just beat the next team
Games are supposed to get tougher as you advance. Colorado is a good team.
That said, looking at the kind of teams that usually give us trouble - big, physical teams that crush the boards and punish TK - Colorado isn’t that.
I think we win. But there are a lot of teams this weekend that should’ve won and didn’t. I’m not sure running them into the ground is the best game plan. I trust our half court offense more than our transition game.
Florida is terrible defensively and can’t force turnovers which Colorado begs you to do.
We could lose, but the matchup is just fine.
Colorado has three potential NBA draft picks including a likely lottery pick on their roster. They are more talented than your typical 10-seed. But they'll be playing their 3rd game in 5 days. Also due to injuries their rotation is 5 guys, a hobbled Cody Williams, and 2 warm bodies. Run em into the ground and win by double digits. Leggo
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When is the time usally released
tipoff is 1pm EST
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I hadn’t seen much of Colorado before today but I know 2 things from watching them and the rest of the tournament.
1. The PAC 12 was underrated
2. Colorado can really shoot the ball.
The PAC 12 was underrated?
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FWIW DraftKings app says tip is 6:00 PM Sunday. Not sure how reliable that is.
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11:10 AM
https://x.com/marquettembb/status/1771411206055854400?s=46&t=jxqs74xjrj0YOEifH9UtCw
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LFG!!!
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Colorado probably thinks we are a tough matchup.
Lampkin is good but slow and on his 3rd game in 5 days. Could be slow back on transition.
Feel like if every team doesn’t bring their A game at this level, that team is going home.
Yes. We need to give Lumpkin lumps by running his ass off.
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Of the 16 games this weekend, the smallest spread is 3.5 (Marquette v Colorado and UNC v Michigan State). We are the Rodney Dangerfield of college basketball.
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It's a small thing, but Colorado having to play their third game in five days that early should help us. That's a pretty quick turnaround for them.
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Marquette has lost one game in the last two months when playing at full strength - and it was to the best team in the country at their place. If they play their game, they will be fine. This team is better than Colorado.
They may not play their game, in which case it will be a struggle like last year. But there is nothing we can do about that. So there is no reason to worry or fret. Just enjoy the ride.
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Marquette has lost one game in the last two months when playing at full strength - and it was to the best team in the country at their place. If they play their game, they will be fine. This team is better than Colorado.
They may not play their game, in which case it will be a struggle like last year. But there is nothing we can do about that. So there is no reason to worry or fret. Just enjoy the ride.
This is kind of where I am at as well. Every time I think about Marquette losing I resort back to we went toe to toe with Uconn twice without Kolek. The team needs to play better than yesterday clearly, but I have no doubt they will win tomorrow.
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It is a good thing that free throws do not matter.
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Marquette has lost one game in the last two months when playing at full strength - and it was to the best team in the country at their place. If they play their game, they will be fine. This team is better than Colorado.
They may not play their game, in which case it will be a struggle like last year. But there is nothing we can do about that. So there is no reason to worry or fret. Just enjoy the ride.
To be fair, while Marquette has won 12 of 13 with Kolek, Colorado has also won 10 of 11. Both teams are playing well.
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The blue haze over downtown Indy is the second hand bong smoke from CU.
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I like their chances tomorrow and fully expect a W. I believe the UNC loss two years ago was a great lesson learned and MSU was an eye opener for the guys. The stated from day one that NC was the goal and I do not think CU had a similar NC or bust goal going into the season. MU is a battle tested, experienced team with several NBA players on the roster. That is all I need to know going into the game.
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Yes. We need to give Lumpkin lumps by running his ass off.
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:P
To be fair, while Marquette has won 12 of 13 with Kolek, Colorado has also won 10 of 11. Both teams are playing well.
And just before that they went 1-3, including losing to UCLA.
So also 11 of last 15.
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I could see the Purdue faithful backing us. 2 good matchups the last two years and Colorado isn't a mid-major darling. Maybe just wishful thinking.
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I could see the Purdue faithful backing us. 2 good matchups the last two years and Colorado isn't a mid-major darling. Maybe just wishful thinking.
Definitely wishful thinking.
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:P
And just before that they went 1-3, including losing to UCLA.
So also 11 of last 15.
Okay
And before our run we went 0-2 so also 12 of 15.
As I said both teams are playing well right now. And as I said earlier, I think marquette wins
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As I said both teams are playing well right now. And as I said earlier, I think marquette wins
But…but…you didn’t say it with enough enthusiasm.
#COLE
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An avalanche will introduce the Bison to darkness.
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Okay
And before our run we went 0-2 so also 12 of 15.
As I said both teams are playing well right now. And as I said earlier, I think marquette wins
To cherry pick stats
I would prefer to say:
Marquette is 15 - 4 in their last 19, with 3 of the losses playing without Kolek and 2 of the losses to the #1 overall seed.
Colorado is 13 - 8 in their last 21. losing to Cal and UCLA
:) Marquette by 12...
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Mods are all COLE.
Could we lose on Sunday. Sure. But we’re the better team and favored.
No wonder Scoop was down.
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I trust our defense. They won’t expect the
“ violence” in our stingy group
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Turn these aholes over 22%+
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Turn these aholes over 22%+
Based on Colorado looked yesterday, they will give Marquette plenty of opportunities to do that
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The Lampkin/Oso match-up is intriguing. How would one approach this in Oso's shoes? Can he run him to exhaustion?
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For me it comes down to how hurt is Oso and can Oso/Ben/Jop deal with Lampkin on the defensive end. We can't foul them.
Also, how will Colorado length affect us on the offensive end. I think we need a team effort scoring night.
I think we should win but it's one and done so you never know.
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I could see the Purdue faithful backing us. 2 good matchups the last two years and Colorado isn't a mid-major darling. Maybe just wishful thinking.
Ya.....I don't see them rooting for us.
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For me it comes down to how hurt is Oso and can Oso/Ben/Jop deal with Lampkin on the defensive end. We can't foul them.
Also, how will Colorado length affect us on the offensive end. I think we need a team effort scoring night.
I think we should win but it's one and done so you never know.
I like that you mentioned 3 guys rather than one. In addition to a "team effort scoring night" we need a team effort (well, mostly your 3) effort at defending Lampkin. We can risk some fouls if they are spread around. Even though he was somewhat AWOL in the WK game, we need Oso to play plenty of minutes, not watch from the bench.
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Ya.....I don't see them rooting for us.
They didn’t yesterday. A lot around me were obviously pulling pretty hard for WKU which is understandable. They likely won’t show up until the second half of our game and will probably just be pretty uninterested in general about our game.
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They didn’t yesterday. A lot around me were obviously pulling pretty hard for WKU which is understandable. They likely won’t show up until the second half of our game and will probably just be pretty uninterested in general about our game.
Well of course they’ll be late. The need to practice their dance.
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For me it comes down to how hurt is Oso and can Oso/Ben/Jop deal with Lampkin on the defensive end. We can't foul them.
Also, how will Colorado length affect us on the offensive end. I think we need a team effort scoring night.
I think we should win but it's one and done so you never know.
I assume Marquette will employ a similar strategy that they've done with prior teams that had a limited roster and/or a dominant big man - up tempo and don't take allow any unnecessary stoppages.
Kalkbrenner was gassed in Omaha.
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To cherry pick stats
I would prefer to say:
Marquette is 15 - 4 in their last 19, with 3 of the losses playing without Kolek and 2 of the losses to the #1 overall seed.
Colorado is 13 - 8 in their last 21. losing to Cal and UCLA
:) Marquette by 12...
Okay COLEslaw
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For me it comes down to how hurt is Oso and can Oso/Ben/Jop deal with Lampkin on the defensive end. We can't foul them.
Also, how will Colorado length affect us on the offensive end. I think we need a team effort scoring night.
I think we should win but it's one and done so you never know.
Oso needs to attack Lampkin. Oso is quicker/more athletic and can give him trouble if he attacks. Possibly draw a couple fouls.
When Gold/Jop are in and on him, they can both play on the perimeter and attack off the bounce. They may be at a disadvantage guarding him in the post, but he is going to be at a significant disadvantage guarding them on the perimeter. Either open looks for 3, or take him off the bounce and get him in foul trouble.
While I think Lampkin will be a load to deal with, I'm more worried about:
1. Tristan da Silva: Likely 1st round pick. 6'9"
2. K.J. Simpson: Possible 1st round pick. 6'2"
3. Cody Williams: Likely lottery pick. 6'8"
I think Mitchell does Mitchell things guarding Simpson. What will be a big decider in the game is how well Williams (Frosh coming off an ankle injury) and da Silva play, and on our side how much we can turn them over for easy buckets, and how well Kolek, Oso, and Kam play.
This is a game where in the post, Oso could give them trouble with his ability to take his man off the bounce, and when Lampkin is in, abuse them on the pick and roll. Need a big game from Oso. Hope he is healthy.
As I said before, at this point everyone is good, and not being on your A-game sends you home. But in this game, if both teams play their A-game. We win.
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The Lampkin/Oso match-up is intriguing. How would one approach this in Oso's shoes? Can he run him to exhaustion?
Lampkin is very poor a defending the pick and roll. Oso is going to turn him into bbq chicken.
On the other end, he's a load, but I don't think he can beat us by himself. If Lampkin is their leading scorer, I think the game is going well for us.
Da Silva scares me the most. I would consider putting Oso on Da Silva and having Jop/Ben handle Lampkin
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One thing that was interesting was the 60% 3 point shooting is intimidating, but they only took 10. My bigger concern is they get to the line and get us in foul trouble.
I'm hoping Oso running some point and running to the rim will tire Lampkin out.
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I don't understand the Oso is hurt that bad. He played 33 minutes, continually brought the ball up mid court, had 8 rebounds, 5 blocks and yes he missed five of his close range shots. If he had made like three of them, would there even be a discussion? Had two turnovers, one of which was a complete brain malfunction, but overall not bad, bad. Kolek hurt, well 18 and 11. Mitchell hurt, one of his best games ever. Hopefully all this injury talk is not a precursor to excuses if it doesn't go as planned tomorrow.
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Well of course they’ll be late. The need to practice their dance.
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They teach that dance at freshman orientation. I’m not kidding.
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Also to cherry pick stats .. while yesterday, CU scored 102 (while giving up 100) ..
The game before, they only scored 60 .. gave up 53.
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I don't understand the Oso is hurt that bad. He played 33 minutes, continually brought the ball up mid court, had 8 rebounds, 5 blocks and yes he missed five of his close range shots. If he had made like three of them, would there even be a discussion? Had two turnovers, one of which was a complete brain malfunction, but overall not bad, bad. Kolek hurt, well 18 and 11. Mitchell hurt, one of his best games ever. Hopefully all this injury talk is not a precursor to excuses if it doesn't go as planned tomorrow.
I just read this entire thread
No one is talking injuries. Did you just create a narrative in your head?
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Okay COLEslaw
That makes no sense
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I just read this entire thread
No one is talking injuries. Did you just create a narrative in your head?
Look at the Kolek Update thread.
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Put Omax on Da Silva...oh wait
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I just read this entire thread
No one is talking injuries. Did you just create a narrative in your head?
I think it’s pretty clear from watching him move that the knee is a limiting factor and he is not moving with the same fluidity.
Maybe I’m making it up in my head but seems pretty obvious.
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Da Silva is an interesting player. He seems very willing to chill for long stretches, just standing at the arc and waiting for passes that might never come. It was Simpson who had the onions to take the game-winner.
His team just scored 102 points and he took all of 10 shots. He didn't attack all that often. And he was not a factor on defense.
Previous game vs Boise, he scored 20 of their 60 points ... but I was surprised to see that when I saw the box score after having watched much of the game. He scored a total of 36 points in three P12 tourney games in which he averaged 37 mins.
But he's obviously skilled, very smooth, good size, and I can see why the NBA is interested.
I hope he has one of his 9-point, no-factor games tomorrow.
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Look at the Kolek Update thread.
And Big Papi's post here a few before what I brought up. And ATL Warrior's post here following mine.
I don't create narratives. Injuries have been discussed in a prominent manner all over this board.
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And Big Papi's post here a few before what I brought up. And ATL Warrior's post here following mine.
I don't create narratives. Injuries have been discussed in a prominent manner all over this board.
Umm, I wasn’t arguing you were. I pointed out to PG what you were referring to after he said you’re creating narratives and no one is talking about injuries.
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Umm, I wasn’t arguing you were. I pointed out to PG what you were referring to after he said you’re creating narratives.
Oh I know... I appreciate it. Just used your post as an example/proof, along with the other two examples, to show I was not making this up. Thanks
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Oh I know... I appreciate it. Just used your post as an example/proof, along with the other two examples, to show I was not making this up. Thanks
Got it. And agree with the point you made about those raising injury concerns.
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Lampkin is very poor a defending the pick and roll. Oso is going to turn him into bbq chicken.
On the other end, he's a load, but I don't think he can beat us by himself. If Lampkin is their leading scorer, I think the game is going well for us.
Da Silva scares me the most. I would consider putting Oso on Da Silva and having Jop/Ben handle Lampkin
I agree on the assignments. Jop losing De Silva is the nightmare scenario. Lampkin plays below the rim and Jop matches well with him for the type of interior defense that could stifle him.
X factor is Williams and who guards him.
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Got it. And agree with the point you made about raising injury concerns.
And what point is that?
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I think rebounding is a major concern tomorrow. Colorado is one of the best in the country, 11th nationally team rebounding percentage and 19th nationally team rebounding margin. We’re 286 & 303 in those two categories.
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And what point is that?
I don’t really understand what you need clarity on, but both the initial and final points of nyg’s posts, especially the final point.
Or maybe you know and just want to argue.
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That makes no sense
You are Nat King COLE.
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I think rebounding is a major concern tomorrow. Colorado is one of the best in the country, 11th nationally team rebounding percentage and 19th nationally team rebounding margin. We’re 286 & 303 in those two categories.
They're 92nd nationally in offensive reboudning, 29th in defensive rebounds. Offensive rebounds aren't something we rely on so the high defensive rebounding doesn't bother me.
Also, they posted major offensive rebounding numbers in 2023, they've been very average in 2024.
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They're 92nd nationally in offensive reboudning, 29th in defensive rebounds. Offensive rebounds aren't something we rely on so the high defensive rebounding doesn't bother me.
Also, they posted major offensive rebounding numbers in 2023, they've been very average in 2024.
If MU does not miss and forces lots of turnovers then there are no rebounds to be had.
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If MU does not miss and forces lots of turnovers then there are no rebounds to be had.
Their misses don’t need to be rebounded?
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You are Nat King COLE.
That makes no sense, I am arguing for higher expectations.
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Shut down the Taco Bell’s and remove all the Doritos from the 7-11’s in Indy, and they will be malnourished when they play tomorrow.
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Their misses don’t need to be rebounded?
Only if they miss. My point is don’t miss.
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Shut down the Taco Bell’s and remove all the Doritos from the 7-11’s in Indy, and they will be malnourished when they play tomorrow.
Ha!
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Oso needs to attack Lampkin. Oso is quicker/more athletic and can give him trouble if he attacks. Possibly draw a couple fouls.
When Gold/Jop are in and on him, they can both play on the perimeter and attack off the bounce. They may be at a disadvantage guarding him in the post, but he is going to be at a significant disadvantage guarding them on the perimeter. Either open looks for 3, or take him off the bounce and get him in foul trouble.
While I think Lampkin will be a load to deal with, I'm more worried about:
1. Tristan da Silva: Likely 1st round pick. 6'9"
2. K.J. Simpson: Possible 1st round pick. 6'2"
3. Cody Williams: Likely lottery pick. 6'8"
I think Mitchell does Mitchell things guarding Simpson. What will be a big decider in the game is how well Williams (Frosh coming off an ankle injury) and da Silva play, and on our side how much we can turn them over for easy buckets, and how well Kolek, Oso, and Kam play.
This is a game where in the post, Oso could give them trouble with his ability to take his man off the bounce, and when Lampkin is in, abuse them on the pick and roll. Need a big game from Oso. Hope he is healthy.
As I said before, at this point everyone is good, and not being on your A-game sends you home. But in this game, if both teams play their A-game. We win.
They have 3 first round draft picks in the line up and they’re a 10 seed? What am I missing. What’s the weakness
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They have 3 first round draft picks in the line up and they’re a 10 seed? What am I missing. What’s the weakness
Nothing, really. They had some injuries during the season that if they hadn't happen, it's not a stretch to say they're PAC12 champion and a 2 seed.
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I don’t really understand what you need clarity on, but both the initial and final points of nyg’s posts, especially the final point.
Or maybe you know and just want to argue.
No, what I want to understand is how making an observation from watching the previous game leads some posters to think that’s making an excuse for potentially losing a game that occurs 24 hours later.
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Nothing, really. They had some injuries during the season that if they hadn't happen, it's not a stretch to say they're PAC12 champion and a 2 seed.
That feels like a stretch.
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Yeah. High draft picks don't necessarily mean good college players or team.
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Kenpom Player of the Year standings shows:
Rank
1 Edey 7'4" - Purdue
4 Tristen Newton 6'5" - UConn
10 KJ Simpson 6'2" - Colorado. Game MVP in 16 games.
Looks like we need another great game for Stevie, this time on Simpson.
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Kenpom Player of the Year standings shows:
Rank
1 Edey 7'4" - Purdue
4 Tristen Newton 6'5" - UConn
10 KJ Simpson 6'2" - Colorado. Game MVP in 16 games.
Looks like we need another great game for Stevie, this time on Simpson.
That'll work. Just keep him clear of Lampkin.
I'm expecting a tough game but with Marquette going to the Sweet Sixteen.
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While I think Lampkin will be a load to deal with, I'm more worried about:
1. Tristan da Silva: Likely 1st round pick. 6'9"
2. K.J. Simpson: Possible 1st round pick. 6'2"
3. Cody Williams: Likely lottery pick. 6'8"
I think Mitchell does Mitchell things guarding Simpson. What will be a big decider in the game is how well Williams (Frosh coming off an ankle injury) and da Silva play, and on our side how much we can turn them over for easy buckets, and how well Kolek, Oso, and Kam play.
Don’t sleep on J’vonne Hadley either—scores efficiently without needing to dominate the ball.
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Last time we played Colorado we beat them 83-68. That was in 1987. We own the all-time series 3-1.
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Simpson looks smaller than the 6’2” listed. They are prone to turning the ball over, best non-con win was Miami (which didn’t turn out as expected) and had 7 losses in a weaker PAC 12 (including losing to our only common opponent UCLA).
Seems like they could have been anywhere between an 8 and 10 seed.
Dont matter. Win anyway.
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Kenpom Player of the Year standings shows:
Rank
1 Edey 7'4" - Purdue
4 Tristen Newton 6'5" - UConn
10 KJ Simpson 6'2" - Colorado. Game MVP in 16 games.
Looks like we need another great game for Stevie, this time on Simpson.
You won’t find many KenPom Top 10 players of the year who played on 10 seeded teams. Colorado is an extremely talented team and underseeded as a 10. Looks more like a 4 seed team to me.
Lampkin is the one player who really concerns me about this game.
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Osos due for a great game, Stevie’s an awesome leader and if we play D like we know how I think we’ll be good
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Looks like we missed one in the making.
Freshman of Cody Williams:
... Named to the 2023 Jersey Mike's Naismith High School Boys All-America Team, averaging 18 points per games while guiding Perry to the 2023 Arizona Open Division state championship with a 30-1 record. A McDonald's All-American, becoming the fourth Buffalo to play in that classic and the third directly from high school. Named all-conference, all-region and offensive player of the year. He is Colorado's first five-star recruit since David Harrison. The top recruit in the Class of 2023 according to On3 and listed at No. 7 in the ESPN100, 247Sports and Rivals rankings. ...
Also some mock NBA drafts have him going early in the first round.
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What I’m hearing is we’re playing arguably the most talented team in the nation. Great..
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We got this.
‘specially if we can score more points.
Seriously, Colorado basketball?
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We got this.
‘specially if we can score more points.
Seriously, Colorado basketball?
What's your strategy Real C?
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Marquette is normally the underdog. That is when we win. Keep the faith.
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What's your strategy Real C?
Cut their heads off and pee down their throats.
Seriously, turn them over. Again and again.
Would be nice to see Oso return on offense.
Cam and TK will be automatic.
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Cut their heads off and pee down their throats.
Seriously, turn them over. Again and again.
Would be nice to see Oso return on offense.
Cam and TK will be automatic.
Ha!! Fair enough Real C.
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PAC 12 is 6-0 thus far too. Will be good to see how Creighton does tonight against Oregon. Edited. Got bad info in airport bar.
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Looks like we missed one in the making.
Freshman of Cody Williams:
... Named to the 2023 Jersey Mike's Naismith High School Boys All-America Team, averaging 18 points per games while guiding Perry to the 2023 Arizona Open Division state championship with a 30-1 record. A McDonald's All-American, becoming the fourth Buffalo to play in that classic and the third directly from high school. Named all-conference, all-region and offensive player of the year. He is Colorado's first five-star recruit since David Harrison. The top recruit in the Class of 2023 according to On3 and listed at No. 7 in the ESPN100, 247Sports and Rivals rankings. ...
Also some mock NBA drafts have him going early in the first round.
They're not similar players, but this situation is kind of similar to UConn's Stephon Castle.
Castle was a 5-star recruit who is listed high in most mock drafts even though he hasn't had a very impressive season statistically and even though he usually defers to his teammates. Also, like Castle, Williams had to overcome an injury that cost him some games. Williams had some good games early on, but he's averaging only 5.3 points on .375 shooting (.000 from 3) since Feb. 24.
The NBA drafts largely on potential. Let's hope Williams doesn't reach his potential tomorrow.
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Most talented team in the country? What in the world?
They went 13-7 in the Pac 12 and were a First Four team. They have some talent and a lot of teams that should have won this weekend didn’t, so we could lose. But we’re a better team.
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They're not similar players, but this situation is kind of similar to UConn's Stephon Castle.
Castle was a 5-star recruit who is listed high in most mock drafts even though he hasn't had a very impressive season statistically and even though he usually defers to his teammates. Also, like Castle, Williams had to overcome an injury that cost him some games. Williams had some good games early on, but he's averaging only 5.3 points on .375 shooting (.000 from 3) since Feb. 24.
The NBA drafts largely on potential. Let's hope Williams doesn't reach his potential tomorrow.
Agree and also I saw little to no defense in their Florida game. It was 102 -100 for a reason. Last, Teams win not individual players.
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What I’m hearing is we’re playing arguably the most talented team in the nation. Great..
Who earned a 10 seed…
Probably better than the North Carolina, Ja Morant Wichita State team, and the South Carolina team who all clobbered Marquette in the tourney combined.
Maybe Marquette should forfeit this one
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They missed some players that resulted in a 10 seed. We missed Stevie for a number of games, Kam for a game or two, Chase for a number of games, and our All American and still got a two seed.
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As Jay Wright said, great pro prospects aren’t necessarily the best college players. The draft is based on projections.
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That makes no sense, I am arguing for higher expectations.
You claim that, but you are the first to fail apart when things go bad. You are also criticizing people who are saying colorado is good AND MU will win. It seems you think MU can only win if Colorado is bad.
You need a COLEnoscopy
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You claim that, but you are the first to fail apart when things go bad. You are also criticizing people who are saying colorado is good AND MU will win. It seems you think MU can only win if Colorado is bad.
You need a COLEnoscopy
I made one post yesterday in the first half, I said they were playing like DUNG . That's not COLE, that's a true assessment. Never said MU can only win if Colorado is bad. I am criticizing people who are trying to build up Colorado as having the talent as the 2010-2011 Kentucky Wildcats.
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2011 Kentucky Wildcats WISH they had as much talent as Colorado.
#chucknorrisapproved
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2011 Kentucky Wildcats WISH they had as much talent as Colorado.
#chucknorrisapproved
What is your confidence level regarding tommor?
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If anyone is interested, here is Colorado’s NET team sheer.
4 QI wins prior to the tourney. 5 Q2 losses.
https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2024/team-net-sheet?team=Colorado
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SilverWarrior has chimed in "Colorado is more dangerous offensively than UConn "
I think I wont even watch the game...
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SilverWarrior has chimed in "Colorado is more dangerous offensively than UConn "
I think I wont even watch the game...
How soon before we can forfeit? 🤔
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SilverWarrior has chimed in "Colorado is more dangerous offensively than UConn "
I think I wont even watch the game...
He should probably go see a doctor.
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I made one post yesterday in the first half, I said they were playing like DUNG . That's not COLE, that's a true assessment. Never said MU can only win if Colorado is bad. I am criticizing people who are trying to build up Colorado as having the talent as the 2010-2011 Kentucky Wildcats.
Okay love in the time of COLEra
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Colorado game does not matter - you see this Oakland vs NC State game? No way Marquette matches up with the talent of either of these two teams.
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Who earned a 10 seed…
Probably better than the North Carolina, Ja Morant Wichita State team, and the South Carolina team who all clobbered Marquette in the tourney combined.
Maybe Marquette should forfeit this one
Was reading this on my phone, limited screen space. Thought this was Rico.
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What is your confidence level regarding tommor?
I have zero confidence that we’ll lose. Shoot to get hot shoot to stay hot. Book it.
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Okay love in the time of COLEra
Fantasy just like the original tale
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Winning by 15 tomorrow will rule
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Are you guys ready to go? I’ve been waiting for this for months. This team is good enough to get us to the final four. Marquette will beat Colorado and N.C. State. Look forward to tomorrow and enjoy the games next week end. Get ready for Houston. Cheers.
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Are you guys ready to go? I’ve been waiting for this for months. This team is good enough to get us to the final four. Marquette will beat Colorado and N.C. State. Look forward to tomorrow and enjoy the games next week end. Get ready for Houston. Cheers.
I’m paranoid:
Hope you’re right pal :0
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I’m paranoid:
Hope you’re right pal :0
It's OK to be paranoid. Just remember that no matter what anyone else tries to tell you, everybody really is out to get you.
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A bunch of
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posters in yesterdays game thread...
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I don’t care. I’m a scared little boy and need someone to tell me it’ll be ok. Thanks
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Are you guys ready to go? I’ve been waiting for this for months. This team is good enough to get us to the final four. Marquette will beat Colorado and N.C. State. Look forward to tomorrow and enjoy the games next week end. Get ready for Houston. Cheers.
You're the man oilcan!!!
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Oilcan
I’m ready!!
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Oregon played Creighton tough, how will Marquette even think about handling Colorado?
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We have the talent and the experience to beat anyone in the country
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SilverWarrior has chimed in "Colorado is more dangerous offensively than UConn "
I think I wont even watch the game...
If you need someone to talk up an opponent and find ways MU will lose, he's your guy.
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If you need someone to talk up an opponent and find ways MU will lose, he's your guy.
Colorado lost to the only team they've seen at our level by an average of 32.5 points. Friday's Florida game was their best win so far - a game in which they gave up 100 points.
We need to be ready to ball, but there is absolutely no way we should lose this game.
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I have zero confidence that we’ll lose. Shoot to get hot shoot to stay hot. Book it.
Warriors by 7.
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Take care of Colorado, then exact revenge for 50 years ago.
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I don’t care. I’m a scared little boy and need someone to tell me it’ll be ok. Thanks
There's another scooper who checks the 2 boxes you listed to a T.
Getting back to the thread title... I'm not worried (or paranoid) about today's game. That does not mean it will be a cakewalk. Just that we have better players, a better team, the reigning COY and have been battle tested beyond the level that Colorado has experienced.
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Warriors by 7.
87-80 sounds about right to me.
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Snoop
This run is three years in the making. They have all of the tools needed to win today. My biggest hope going into the game is that they start out hitting their looks close to the basket. Punish the paint and open up the three ball. They are the experienced team and they will be well prepared. The last two tournaments have each provided a different lesson and I believe that will play a big role today. It's Go Time!!!
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Take care of Colorado, then exact revenge for 50 years ago.
Victory over CO a foregone conclusion. Skywalker David Thompson ain’t savin’ State this time.
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I have raised my concern for today's game to a Vermont level concern....
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87-80 sounds about right to me.
Not expecting the score to be that high.
I think the Florida game was an aberration that resulted from Florida’s astonishingly leaky defense and racehorse style.
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I have raised my concern for today's game to a Vermont level concern....
You mean it isn’t Rocky Mountain High?
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Snoop
This run is three years in the making. They have all of the tools needed to win today. My biggest hope going into the game is that they start out hitting their looks close to the basket. Punish the paint and open up the three ball. They are the experienced team and they will be well prepared. The last two tournaments have each provided a different lesson and I believe that will play a big role today. It's Go Time!!!
As usual Goose, you are spot on. I especially agree with establishing control quickly in the paint and from the three point line. Rattle them, undermine their confidence, and make them figure out how to adjust. I do NOT want to see a repeat of WK's turning the tables on us.
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Not expecting the score to be that high.
I think the Florida game was an aberration that resulted from Florida’s astonishingly leaky defense and racehorse style.
good point. Maybe more-so in the 70’s…but feel confident about a 7-9 pt win.
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Take care of Colorado, then exact revenge for 50 years ago.
NOW YOU'RE TALKING.
WE REMEMBER.
WHO IS COLORADO? WHERE IS COLORADO?
Some far away place that makes you dehydrated.
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WHO IS COLORADO? WHERE IS COLORADO?
Some far away place that makes you dehydrated.
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