Dang. Started this and then realized I couldn't surpass We R for the most premature game thread. Maybe BET first game thread?
According to Duanewade, this thread can be deleted if MU loses tonight.
Quote from: tower912 on March 06, 2024, 05:03:19 PM
According to Duanewade, this thread can be deleted if MU loses tonight.
MU team 2 places at same time, nothing like a miracle!
Just realized I will be watching this one on Sunday afternoon. Alas.
This explains why the team didn't show up against UConn tonight.
Two of Xs key reserves are done for the season. Dailyn Swain had an appendectomy this week. Sasa Cianni has been shut down with a "lower leg injury".
Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 07, 2024, 04:28:38 PM
Two of Xs key reserves are done for the season. Dailyn Swain had an appendectomy this week. Sasa Cianni has been shut down with a "lower leg injury".
"Hello Sean, there's a call on line one for you from a guy named Brutus"
But, it is Xavier's Senior Day and everyone knows you'd rather not play then. It turns an otherwise indifferent and incompetent team into tigers.
MU not scoring so far is bad.
Quote from: Newsdreams on March 07, 2024, 09:10:40 PM
MU not scoring so far is bad.
But they are even on the boards, which is good.
Fan duel has it at MU minus 2.5
Go8ng to be a close game no matte4 what. They have key guys out and we do too. Need a win here. Need to rebound and hit 3s. Go Marquette!
As Muggsy says- LFG! Want this game and not 3 game losing streak heading into postseason, regardless of bad luck that hit team with Kolek's injury when we had road Creighton and UConn back to back. Get a W and back on track today. Xavier's been meh this season, but Cintas is still tough place to win. I expect it won't be easy.
Quote from: Daniel on March 08, 2024, 07:06:06 PM
Go8ng to be a close game no matte4 what. They have key guys out and we do too. Need a win here. Need to rebound and hit 3s. Go Marquette!
They don't have one of the best players in the country out though. We put up good fights the last two and hope we get it done today.
Here's hoping both teams play hard and have fun! Basketball is just a game. These kids agreed to play for their universities, not the coaches or their basketball future and what matters isn't wins, but they represent the university they attend
Yes. Let's hope that teams, coaches, and fans all engage in activities that bring pride and honor to their respective institutions of higher learning.
Sh1tty chili.
I'm looking forward to a spirited effort by all parties.
As long as pregame study hall goes well, I
consider this a win
Quote from: WhiteTrash on March 09, 2024, 11:05:29 AM
1st half line?
The line opened at MU -2.5. It's now at 3.5 in favor of Marquette.
Quote from: real chili 83 on March 09, 2024, 08:23:46 AM
Sh1tty chili.
Yes, very shittty. But both give you the shiits...
Quote from: bradforster on March 09, 2024, 11:49:58 AM
The line opened at MU -2.5. It's now at 3.5 in favor of Marquette.
Kolek's playing!!
What are the Temple fans putting their money on?
Big game for a few reasons:
Unless Nova beats Creighton MU needs a win to avoid the 4 seed in the BET.
A loss would be a blow to MU's hope for a 2 seed in the NCAA.
MU needs a win to show that they can win a game without Kolek.
Not a major issue, but it would be nice to get second place (even if a tie) in the final conference standings.
Quote from: wisblue on March 09, 2024, 12:42:51 PM
Big game for a few reasons:
Unless Nova beats Creighton MU needs a win to avoid the 4 seed in the BET.
A loss would be a blow to MU's hope for a 2 seed in the NCAA.
MU needs a win to show that they can win a game without Kolek.
Not a major issue, but it would be nice to get second place (even if a tie) in the final conference standings.
I don't think any of this is true
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 12:57:20 PM
I don't think any of this is true
The first one is a fact unless you consider DePaul winning at Seton Hall to be a possibility.
The other 3 are my opinions.
Excited for what Willie is going to bring to the game thread today.
Quote from: wisblue on March 09, 2024, 12:42:51 PM
Big game for a few reasons:
Unless Nova beats Creighton MU needs a win to avoid the 4 seed in the
Not a major issue, but it would be nice to get second place (even if a tie) in the final conference standings.
We'n, that's not looking so good.
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 09, 2024, 02:06:04 PM
We'n, that's not looking so good.
Can still get the tie for second.
BET seeding is for that purpose only.
MU simply has to win. Not getting any help.
Quote from: bradforster on March 09, 2024, 11:49:58 AM
The line opened at MU -2.5. It's now at 3.5 in favor of Marquette.
it actually opened at MU -1.5
I hope someone gives us a detailed play by play during the game. I unexpectedly will miss most of it. LFG!!!!
Quote from: wisblue on March 09, 2024, 02:15:43 PM
Can still get the tie for second.
BET seeding is for that purpose only.
MU simply has to win. Not getting any help.
I believe there are tiebreakers that separate the teams assuming we win today.
Quote from: rocket surgeon on March 09, 2024, 03:04:15 PM
it actually opened at MU -1.5
It sure did! That's a good catch.
Need a win for the 3 seed and a possible semi matchup with Creighton in the BET which I think we win.
MU badly needs the win.
Creighton is now the 2 seed. Even though the last 2 have been very difficult games v excellent teams... going into
BET w / 3 losses and possible 1st round BET game v St Johns is NOT good
Quote from: Mu8891 on March 09, 2024, 03:41:01 PM
MU badly needs the win.
Creighton is now the 2 seed. Even though the last 2 have been very difficult games v excellent teams... going into
BET w / 3 losses and possible 1st round BET game v St Johns is NOT good
I'd like to win, but it really doesn't matter much,
Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2024, 03:46:12 PM
I'd like to win, but it really doesn't matter much,
In terms of big dance, probably doesn't matter a whole lot. But it matters a ton for BET seeding, avoiding UCONN until the BET champ and avoiding the dreaded Thursday afternoon game next week.
Need a win... hopefully we play loose and confidently. Hit the 3s. Ben will hit 3 today! Cam will hit one with first MU shot if the game. lol
Go Marquette!
Hoping Chase looms big tonight
I'm on an airplane from Europe. I assume TK isn't marming up?
Stevie is such a pisser!
Jop with 2 3's that go 2/3 of the way in and pops out
How long before the first 3 goes down?
Brick, brick, brick
So far, blech
We are getting great looks, they arent. Should be fine
At the game. MU has no energy. Lethargic on offense. They better wake up soon.
Wow - cold shooting. Statistics are on our side. We start hitting next possession. Gooo Marquette!
Don't think Marq can throw it in the river at this point. Yikes. But Xavier looks awful so let's get Gold going
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 09, 2024, 04:13:34 PM
Brick, brick, brick
Joplin and Ross have taken the mantle from GoooollldBrick.
Can they extract their heads out of their asses on offense?
BOX OUT !!!
Rebound!!! FFS ...
It does no good to box out and not put your arms up to grab the rebound
Too much dribbling into traffic
Gold...nba baller, hey
This is just brutal
Jop missing WIDE OPEN 3s.
Ben dribbling like a circus clown.
Just bad.
Kam and Oso. The new 2 man action. Feed them.
Tre Norman is earning minutes over Chase Ross which is good, but also bad.
GoooolllldBrick with the Turnover
Shots will start to fall
Some low quality basketball in Cinci today. Please get healthy Kolek. Quickly.
Man, they are letting guys manhandle ball handlers.
I'll keep saying it.
Love Jop as a role guy
But Shaka saying this dude could be a BE leading scorer is crazier than saying Sean Mannion might lead a NFL team to playoffs next year.
Hes just not a lead dog
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:34 PM
I'll keep saying it.
Love Jop as a role guy
But Shaka saying this dude could be a BE leading scorer is crazier than saying Sean Mannion might lead a NFL team to playoffs next year.
Hes just not a lead dog
Hes the college basketball version of 40 year old melo.
Who did Shaka run to at that timeout? And was it a mad run or happy run?
Quote from: willie warrior on March 09, 2024, 04:23:37 PM
GoooolllldBrick with the Turnover
I bet you forget to wipe when you take a dump
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2024, 04:23:31 PM
Tre Norman is earning minutes over Chase Ross which is good, but also bad.
I know Chase was ill. Maybe not quite 100%?
Quote from: Norm on March 09, 2024, 04:16:06 PM
At the game. MU has no energy. Lethargic on offense. They better wake up soon.
I don't agree with this at all. Couple of careless possessions but for the most part they've run their stuff and been able to get good looks.
Didn't look like a happy run onto the court
Need to drive on them and score.... Hit Ben under the basket. Kam keeping us in the game. We will settle in and win this. Let's Gooo Marquette!
Watching Tre figure it out has been cool.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:24:34 PM
I'll keep saying it.
Love Jop as a role guy
But Shaka saying this dude could be a BE leading scorer is crazier than saying Sean Mannion might lead a NFL team to playoffs next year.
Hes just not a lead dog
yup
Kolek sweating the same amount he would be if actually playing
Jop is legit X best player
Stop shooting or make a fu cking shot
Jop have money on X?
Ok guys, we've established that the rim is solid. Let's see how the net is
the poor play of ross and joplin is just killing us right now. those 2 have got to pick it up
Holy sh it
We might have more O rebounds already than all season
Jop and chase my god
Joplin and Ross continuing to build brick by brick by brick.
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 04:26:08 PM
I know Chase was ill. Maybe not quite 100%?
Maybe not that good
We just look bad.
Oso gets a lot of cheap reach in fouls.
We look like we did against Butler the first game
Now 2 on Oso.
I just don't get how anyone can say this team is OK without a transfer next year
It's Kam, ultimate glue guy Stevie.
And roles guys.
It's not a Sunday stroll.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:35:06 PM
Now 2 on Oso.
I just don't get how anyone can say this team is OK without a transfer next year
It's Kam, ultimate glue guy Stevie.
And roles guys.
So no one else might improve considerably over the summer?
8
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:35:06 PM
Now 2 on Oso.
I just don't get how anyone can say this team is OK without a transfer next year
It's Kam, ultimate glue guy Stevie.
Ughhhh. What's up with Jop? 0-5?
And roles guys.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:35:06 PM
Now 2 on Oso.
I just don't get how anyone can say this team is OK without a transfer next year
It's Kam, ultimate glue guy Stevie.
And roles guys.
agree. The lack of a functioning PG is glaring
Foul was changed to Ross so Oso coming back in.
Ross seems slow today.
We are getting shots but missing. We will start hitting. Sloppy with the ball tho and not moving the ball crisply. Mec to f8nd the open guy and move the ball!
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 04:35:45 PM
So no one else might improve considerably over the summer?
And the system will be built to the guys strengths rather than running a system that works with TK.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 04:35:45 PM
So no one else might improve considerably over the summer?
To become a lead guard with Kam???
No.
To be better than now? Hopefully.
But you think Jop is gonna randomly lesrn how to be consistent as a senior?
Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2024, 04:37:46 PM
And the system will be built to the guys strengths rather than running a system that works with TK.
Yep. I'm not saying Shaka may not hit the portal but judging the offense for next year based on 2-3 games is silly.
Kams going to lead the BE in ppg next year and we'll need it.
Kam looks good today.
Quote from: MUeng on March 09, 2024, 04:36:24 PM
agree. The lack of a functioning PG is glaring
A Center that can rebound is more important
Kam needs to do a Markus Howard 50 today. He's the only guy showing life on O.
With the way we are playing and it tied ..... amazing actually. We will be better from this point forward.
Wow, I couldn't do a standing broad jump as far as Kam just jumped AND made a reverse layup
Hi, I'm Ben Gold. Feel free to score on me.
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:38:47 PM
To become a lead guard with Kam???
No.
To be better than now? Hopefully.
But you think Jop is gonna randomly lesrn how to be consistent as a senior?
I think with an off-season of work and defined roles we'll be fine.
Foot on the line on that inbound. Should be MU ball.
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 04:44:40 PM
Hi, I'm Ben Gold. Feel free to score on me.
He's contested pretty well.
I'm not seeing what you all are seeing. We can't buy one from outside and X is hitting some tough shots.
I don't think we are playing badly at all. We're rebounding offensively. Not turning it over. Forcing turnovers. Just haven't finished.
Did Tre steal Chases powers?
I'd sit Chase for a bit and let him watch Zaide and Tre play over him.
That should make him wake up a bit. They need him.
Man, Chase is in a fog the last 3 games
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 04:41:38 PM
Kam needs to do a Markus Howard 50 today. He's the only guy showing life on O.
Oso good, but Ross, Joplin and Gold have zero combined. Just hoping not for a 5 for 31 from three game like Butler.
Turnovers and three point shooting is ugh. Get them in foul trouble, no bench. Oliveri already with two, take advantage, but turnovers.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 04:45:32 PM
I think with an off-season of work and defined roles we'll be fine.
I should also be clear in my tone, as is we are still a should be tourney team(no bubble sweat).
But my thoughts for next year is need another guard to be legit top 25 type.
I don't think we will suck.
Typical cold first half. We'll adjust
Chase had Oso for the lob - just threw a bad pass.
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2024, 04:47:49 PM
Oso good, but Ross, Joplin and Gold have zero combined. Just hoping not for a 5 for 31 from three game like Butler.
Turnovers and three point shooting is ugh. Get them in foul trouble, no bench. Oliveri already with two, take advantage, but turnovers.
If Joplin can get 10 3s attempted today as open as the 1st 3, I'd take it.
Gotta keep firing. Great looks. Just stick em.
Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2024, 04:47:01 PM
He's contested pretty well.
I'm not seeing what you all are seeing. We can't buy one from outside and X is hitting some tough shots.
I don't think we are playing badly at all. We're rebounding offensively. Not turning it over. Forcing turnovers. Just haven't finished.
Correct in all but we need to hit shots. Shooting 20% on 3s. Ugh!
Ross is clearly a liability offensively right now. If he simply throws the ball rim high on the pass to Oso it's an easy dunk. That ball was at least two feet too low.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 04:45:32 PM
I think with an off-season of work and defined roles we'll be fine.
Hope so. Would like to buy a house on Top 10 Avenue and stay a while
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:48:59 PM
I should also be clear in my tone, as is we are still a should be tourney team(no bubble sweat).
But my thoughts for next year is need another guard to be legit top 25 type.
I don't think we will suck.
That's fair. I'm probably a bit more optimistic.
I would prefer Kam be a little more selfish today
Yah, gonna need Jop and Ross to ve something other than 0-fer to win
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 09, 2024, 04:47:31 PM
Man, Chase is in a fog the last 3 games
He had the flu for two games. I'm not convinced he's totally back from it.
Jop and Chase scare me when they drive
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 04:50:10 PM
That's fair. I'm probably a bit more optimistic.
I am definitely optimistic on Tre.
Off season has to be jump shot focused. But the game is there.
I'd just prefer he's not lead guard when it appears we kinda know what he will be surrounded by next year.
I'm Very confident that upperclassmen Norman is a great college player
Is this where we get apoplectic about Miller being 5 feet onto the court during play?
Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 09, 2024, 04:54:12 PM
I am definitely optimistic on Tre.
Off season has to be jump shot focused. But the game is there.
I'd just prefer he's not lead guard when it appears we kinda know what he will be surrounded by next year.
I'm Very confident that upperclassmen Norman is a great college player
I'm just not sure Shaka brings in a clear starter at PG. We'll see.
It's so simple.
Kam. Oso.
Roll with it.
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 09, 2024, 04:50:38 PM
I would prefer Kam be a little more selfish today
18/6/4
I say he is playing awesome and very involved.
KAM.
Oso and Kam doing it all with help from Srevie.
Idk how you get beat down the court on a make
How do you let mullet boy force a turnover
Jolp.
Unbelievable awful last minute. Trash
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 04:56:09 PM
I'm just not sure Shaka brings in a clear starter at PG. We'll see.
I guess that's also something I'm not necessarily adamant on either.
We don't need another TK or "lead guard" as my word choice meant.
More so another PG with experience. Tre becomes the new Sean(assuming he's not playing) from this year with more PT. Then a start PG who doesn't require as much as Kolek.
If you combined that guys arc with Gold's, you would have a normal shot
Nice reverse 2-for-1!
Not an ideal end to the half.
4 🫏 out of 5
Christ. Bad end to half.
But keep rolling through the big 2 and we got this.
How can Oso be that unaware as a Senior? That was bad.
Up 7 with the ball and the last shot and he is pushing the pace getting called for a travel.
Instead of a 7-10 point lead...4.
Dumb.
Up 9, 45 seconds to go.......
Foul shooter, two points.
Have ball to run clock down to 4 seconds. Oso drives????, then turnover leading to a three. Boom, down to 4 point lead. Why did Oso drive? Hold ball till like 8 left and shoot.
what was a great end to the half became a terrible end to the half real quick
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2024, 05:01:05 PM
How can Oso be that unaware as a Senior? That was bad.
Up 7 with the ball and the last shot and he is pushing the pace getting called for a travel.
Instead of a 7-10 point lead...4.
Dumb.
Technically we didn't have the last shot. But you're not wrong.
X gets the ball to start the half. Must stop them. That last miscue by Lowry was costly. Let's make adjustments and win this thing. Goo Marquette!
Quote from: BM1090 on March 09, 2024, 05:01:50 PM
Technically we didn't have the last shot. But you're not wrong.
2 or 3 second difference? That's the last look in my eyes, but man...come on...
pretty rare for oso to make such a dumb play. team needs to pick it up big time in the 2nd half. joplin and ross are limiting this team right now
Quote from: willie warrior on March 09, 2024, 05:02:40 PM
Dung Reeker. Always will be.
Why don't you wash your hands after you pee?
Wow, what shitty play in 1st half. It's on Shaka & team if they lose this very winnable game and have to face St Johns in MSG (who is chomping at the bit to destroy them) and then have to face UConn if they survive. Very disappointing 1st half.
Have upped it to 4.5 🫏 out of 5
Feels like we will get hot to start the second half and pull away.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2024, 05:06:39 PM
Feels like we will get hot to start the second half and pull away.
I'm not sure Marquette will be able to overcome this deficit
Quote from: Daniel on March 09, 2024, 05:02:06 PM
X gets the ball to start the half. Must stop them. That last miscue by Lowry was costly. Let's make adjustments and win this thing. Goo Marquette!
Better win. FYI, three of their starters, including their two bigmen and leading scorer have two fouls apiece. Get them in foul trouble, Oso driving. They have no bench, all injured, except that taller guy who made a three. Up nine with 40 seconds to go hurt.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 09, 2024, 05:04:14 PM
Wow, what crapty play in 1st half. It's on Shaka & team if they lose this very winnable game and have to face St Johns in MSG (who is chomping at the bit to destroy them) and then have to face UConn if they survive. Very disappointing 1st half.
When Ross, Gold, Joplin and Mitchell score 3 points total, pretty weak
Good thing Jop got called for a foul or his line would be all goose eggs.
Seems like the Kam/Oso game will be there all day.
I'd open the half looking for Joplin and Ross again. Give them a chance to be a part of the action and knock down open 3s and find out if they can trust anyone else down the stretch of this game.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 05:07:14 PM
I'm not sure Marquette will be able to overcome this deficit
Trailing by -4 is a big mountain to climb.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 05:12:43 PM
Trailing by -4 is a big mountain to climb.
Hope Shaka has a good halftime speech to motivate them to fight back into this game
Jop has missed shots which happens. What is not excusable is his failure to get back on D and challenge shots. He's the only guy whose intensity I question. So frustrating.
We need him. He needs to play hard even when his shot is not falling.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 05:07:14 PM
I'm not sure Marquette will be able to overcome this deficit
It certainly feels that way after the closing seconds of the first half.
Has Ross done anything defensively?
Quote from: mileskishnish72 on March 09, 2024, 05:09:22 PM
Good thing Jop got called for a foul or his line would be all goose eggs.
He needs to get his head out of his ass,
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2024, 05:06:39 PM
Feels like we will get hot to start the second half and pull away.
It appears I was wrong.
Turned it up well to start the half.
Oliveri killing us.
Lmao
Really playing a poor game.
This is brutal.
Two good players
Lolololol
That's ridiculous. 2 fade away corner 3s. Unreal.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2024, 05:06:39 PM
Feels like we will get hot to start the second half and pull away.
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/44cde7954f3f5d50c2a33256cde61024/tenor.gif?itemid=11204280)
It's feeling like the home Butler game
Defense?
Wow - totally out of sorts. We are looking rattled. Need to calm down. Bad run given up to X.
a 4th place big east finish would certainly not meet regular season expectations. really bad basketball right now
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2024, 05:06:39 PM
Feels like we will get hot to start the second half and pull away.
Still have that feeling?
Up 9 to down five in little over two minutes. That's a 14 point swing. Need third foul on Oliveri, quickly.
Long way to go
Quote from: MUEng92 on March 09, 2024, 05:20:35 PM
It's feeling like the home Butler game
Had the same exact thought 30 sec. ago.
Heads firmly imbedded in their asses.
Whew
Quote from: willie warrior on March 09, 2024, 05:23:36 PM
Heads firmly imbedded in their asses.
2 Willie references to asses.
Butt stuff from Willie was set at 2.5 for the game thread
Really attacking Kam and Jop.
I'd like to see a Kam Takeover.
Would be nice if Jop or Gold contributed some offense.
Need a little energy adjustment and a bit more aggressiveness from Stevie. We seem flat after building a nice little lead. Long way to go, let's get after it
That was weird to see Sean Miller in that last Wendy's commercial
Looks like the fast pace has worn MU down.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 09, 2024, 05:21:04 PM
a 4th place big east finish would certainly not meet regular season expectations. really bad basketball right now
exactly. 2-seed the the BE quickly moving to 4. 2-seed in the ncaa to a ...? Holy Dominic James, batman
What's up with the defense? X Shooting 52%.
Can we get anything at all out of anyone other than Kam and Oso
Lobbing over Ben for two shots. Dang!
Quote from: MuggsyB on March 09, 2024, 05:31:33 PM
What's up with the defense? X Shooting 52%.
Gold starting center next year really
Looks like we need Kolek
This inferior squad is running our asses off.
Confusion.
Xaviers 3-8 is better than our 3-8.
Stevie and Tre making plays that don't need to be made
Pathetic basketball
Getting ass-kicked by X deserves a 4-seed
gotta figure out the defense here....losing kolek shouldn't cause a huge drop on that end
X is shooting 8/9 from field this half. A regression is coming.
Need more usage from Oso and Kam.
We will be fine.
Team looks pretty dead other than Kam and Oso.
I'm guessing X is hitting shots they haven't all year...but of course
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 09, 2024, 05:38:11 PM
Team looks pretty dead other than Kam and Oso.
Looks like Xavier's pace has them gassed.
Jeffrey Anderson reffing to the crowd there.
Wasn't it a travel before a foul?
another poor decision by oso....wow
This is ugly.
Not doing much to show they can win this. Too many mistakes.
Quote from: warriors141 on March 09, 2024, 05:40:47 PM
another poor decision by oso....wow
The decision at the end of the first half leads to a travel and now an unnecessary offensive push off gives the ball back to Xavier. We're still right in this thing.
Sean Miller promotes weapons.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 09, 2024, 05:43:26 PM
Sean Miller promotes weapons.
paid for in bags of cash
How does a guy with position get called for a foul?
finally something for gold. would be nice to grab a rebound
Shoot it Kam
GoooollllldBrick
Quote from: warriors141 on March 09, 2024, 05:46:06 PM
finally something for gold. would be nice to grab a rebound
COLE
Yes! Now let's gooooo!!
No T for that display?
Absolutely horseshit officiating. Way to take over the game.
X getting some absurd home cooking here
The first time that has ever been called as a foul
Quote from: IL Warrior on March 09, 2024, 05:49:50 PM
X getting some absurd home cooking here
crazy-ass bad!!
Ah, crap.
Why is Kam guarding Olivari?!?
That was a terrible call on Oso based on the foul they called on Kam for boxing out on the other end.
No consistency. Both benefitting Xavier.
Brick!
Bee Gee comes through
Quote from: WolfganghisKhan on March 09, 2024, 05:51:36 PM
Why is Kam guarding Olivari?!?
wondering the same.....where is mitchell?
Too bad Jop has to come back in on that brutal foul call on Oso, let's see if he can win this one for us. Good job Ben, keep shooting.
The whistles when X guards drive today are stupid. If we got the same whistle, Kolek would shoot 20+ FT per game.
Refs playing to the crowd now - just not calling it both ways right now
Brick!
Jop is incapable of contributing to winning basketball
Stevie let the big guy have a layup
Fouls are a problem.
2 really bad ticky tack calls on rebounds ffs
Playing 5v8 right now. Refs clearly influenced by the crowd.
Why are there no plays to get Kam a shot?
One-sided whistle.
We get absolutely bull run and refs don't call anything!!!
Ighodaro hacked. No call.
Our off X. X ball.
BS.
Gold is right that it was off X
Refs reffing to the crowd.
Quote from: IL Warrior on March 09, 2024, 05:59:04 PM
Ighodaro hacked. No call.
Our off X. X ball.
BS.
Nice moving screen by Djokovic too
Crazy home cooking
Quote from: GB Warrior on March 09, 2024, 06:00:05 PM
Nice moving screen by Djokovic too
How do you not call that?
We're getting screwed it's infuriating. Done bonus for them rest of the way. Going to be impossible to guard properly down the stretch
Twould be a shame if we pee this one away.
Olivari has clearly pushed off multiple times.
The dribble around and around and around offense of ours blows
Embarrassing
Pathetic defense
I wish Joplin would at least try
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on March 09, 2024, 06:02:05 PM
I wish Joplin would at least try
That was some serious lolley-gagging on his part.
What the fcuk
Lmao come on. Textbook charge. Get fúcked ref.
Very poor officiating in both directions today.
The awful calls continue
Give me a f'n break.
Whistle....black uniform...blocking foul
lol they call a block
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 09, 2024, 06:02:52 PM
That was some serious lolley-gagging on his part.
deserves pine time.
That was vertical. Come on.
That's on Gold, right?
This is simply bull$hit
We're getting too bad of a whistle tonight. Will be tough to overcome.
Ben went straight up. If we're going to get fouls let's put em in the concussion protocol
Can't have refs this bad at this level. Unacceptable
These refs, man....
This second half officiating has been something.
Looks like Miller's bag man got to the refs. Wow.
Worst officiating in favor of the opponent we've seen so far this year.
i haven't watched a big east game reffed like this all year.
Just came here to say it's tough to win 8 on 5. Just terrible officiating.
Haven't seen anything to match this all season
Potter and Gaffney are awful
I've been told by the ref experts on this board that what Ben gold just did isn't a foul.
Yet here we are.
Mr High Steps Ref today
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 09, 2024, 06:06:47 PM
Looks like Miller's bag man got to the refs. Wow.
haha. 100%
Horrible call
Even the announcers have commented on the calls multiple times this half.
That's at least three straight times Hummel has called out the horrible calls.
Quote from: Herman Cain on March 09, 2024, 06:09:05 PM
Mr High Steps Ref today
it's like he's running in a cow pasture
Stevie! LFG!!!
Dung!
Sweet move by Kam. Now execute!
Finally got Olivari for the obvious push off
About time
First correct call that ref has made tonight
Kam should go Caitlin Clark on this game
Been doing it all game.
Cmon Kam.
Catch the ball!!
7 missed FTs
And the refs are back. Never had control
kam has to hit those free throws
I thought you needed possession to call timeout...
Front-end misses hurt.
That's 8 for 15 from ft line, with a crucial front end miss.
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2024, 06:14:17 PM
That's 8 for 15 from ft line, with a crucial front end miss.
But I heard after the UConn game that free throws don't matter? 🤔
Quote from: IL Warrior on March 09, 2024, 06:14:08 PM
I thought you needed possession to call timeout...
Not if you yell timeout loud enough
He never had possession
How can they give a TO when there was no possession?!
Where was the foul there??
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 09, 2024, 06:14:52 PM
But I heard after the UConn game that free throws don't matter? 🤔
Sultan has some analytics he'd like to feed you
Cam!
Free throw time. Let's see what they're made of.
Really miss TKO for late FTs.
Wade-esque performance from #1
Hack an Oso time.
Quote from: CountryRoads on March 09, 2024, 06:16:38 PM
Free throw time. Let's see what they're made of.
insignificant 😉
If Jop dribbles at any point before the next MU game's tip off, I will lose my mind
Free throws may not matter but they're going to decide this game.
Dung!
Have we fouled every possession under the last 6 mins?
xavier drives and it is an automatic foul at this point
Game
Set
Match
Thatta boy Stevie.
Quote from: wisblue on March 09, 2024, 06:18:24 PM
Free throws may not matter but they're going to decide this game.
And Mitchell sealed it. Whew.....
Ice cold Stevie.
F*ck yeah, boys.
Covered.
Just a great performance today against a Xavier team that really came to play on their senior day.
Nice much needed win
3-seed is a tad disappointing. We're better than CU, I have no doubt. Played a tougher NC schedule too
Very gritty win.
Thatta boy Stewie!!
Nice W. Refs certainly tried for X.
The refs leave the court with their heads hung low wondering what else they could have done for X
Great job by Iggy, Kam, Mitchell and even GooolllldBrick.
Stevie Mitchell, called dung by a Marquette fan seals the deal
This game thread gets a full 5 🫏 performance
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 06:23:10 PM
3-seed is a tad disappointing. We're better than CU, I have no doubt. Played a tougher NC schedule too
That's why I wanted the three seed so we could have a possible match with Creighton in the semis - I know we're the better team.
Starting to get a "magical" season feeling.
It seemed maybe cursed, but the way this team has fought adversity all year, maybe....just maybe...
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 06:23:10 PM
3-seed is a tad disappointing. We're better than CU, I have no doubt. Played a tougher NC schedule too
Same conference record and I think we win one of the UConn or Creighton games with Tyler.
Not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 06:23:10 PM
3-seed is a tad disappointing. We're better than CU, I have no doubt. Played a tougher NC schedule too
It's really a tie for 2nd at the end of the day.
Get healthy and let's get after it. Gritty by Stevie, needed it
Quote from: JamilJaeJamailJrJuan on March 09, 2024, 06:23:46 PM
Nice W. Refs certainly tried for X.
does Miller still have to pay them in a loss 😂 ?
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 06:23:10 PM
3-seed is a tad disappointing. We're better than CU, I have no doubt. Played a tougher NC schedule too
If we are better than Creighton, MU will find out next Friday! Good victory, hope Kolek can play next Friday
How often has a team been a lower seed in their conference tournament than in the NCAA tournament?
Quote from: MUCam on March 09, 2024, 06:24:18 PM
Starting to get a "magical" season feeling.
It seemed maybe cursed, but the way this team has fought adversity all year, maybe....just maybe...
I think this helped our depth for the tourney.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 06:24:10 PM
Stevie Mitchell, called dung by a Marquette fan seals the deal
This game thread gets a full 5 🫏 performance
Loved those dung free throws.
Quote from: 21Jumpstreet on March 09, 2024, 06:24:40 PM
Get healthy and let's get after it. Gritty by Stevie, needed it
Yep. Made some big free throws. We've missed way too many of those big ones in the close Ls this season.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 06:26:00 PM
Loved those dung free throws.
They won despite having their heads "buried in their asses"
Rico, I don't think I'll owe Goose a dinner on Ben G in the Association. Kam? I'll wager dinner he will be a pro!!
Good win, but not a great performance.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 09, 2024, 06:22:50 PM
Just a great performance today against a Xavier team that really came to play on their senior day.
I love this team so much
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 05:36:04 PM
Getting ass-kicked by X deserves a 4-seed
Still a 4-seed?
3 refs and Val Ackerman should be fired after that game. If the BEAST wants to put a good product on the court and on the TV, they cannot hire clowns like that to officiate. It has happened far too often. The best "basketball" conference needs to have professional refs.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 09, 2024, 06:27:40 PM
Good win, but not a great performance.
Pretty good performance considering the circumstances.
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 06:26:53 PM
They won despite having their heads "buried in their asses"
Did he hit the under on butt stuff, though?
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 06:29:34 PM
Oh, yeah?
...replying after the fact gets you a double T and a seat with Jop on the pines
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 06:23:10 PM
3-seed is a tad disappointing. We're better than CU, I have no doubt. Played a tougher NC schedule too
The internet needs more eye roll emojis
Stevie and Ben had GREAT 2nd halves.
Joplin and Chase still weren't close to good, but at least chipped in 10 points in that 2nd half vs. 0 in the 1st.
Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on March 09, 2024, 06:31:58 PM
The internet needs more eye roll emojis
Viper's brother-in-law rolls his eyes a lot
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 09, 2024, 06:32:01 PM
Stevie and Ben had GREAT 2nd halves.
Joplin and Chase still weren't close to good, but at least chipped in 10 points in that 2nd half vs. 0 in the 1st.
Missed shots will happen but rough game for Jop defensively.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 09, 2024, 06:27:40 PM
Good win, but not a great performance.
Yes it was. There are very few teams in the country that could compete at the level Marquette did today without their All-American best player. Punctuated by a very poised closeout in the final five minutes. This is college basketball, games are almost always messy.
Quote from: Tyler COLEk on March 09, 2024, 06:33:45 PM
Yes it was. There are very few teams in the country that could compete at the level Marquette did today without their All-American best player. This is college basketball, games are almost always messy.
especially when the refs dung their pants
I think Xavier played inspired... Senior night I think
Marquette just beat an inspired Xavier. We were as a team, solid. I know FTs and let downs and Jop could be better... But we were solid. Xavier playing great couldn't handle it.
I'm encouraged!
So now it will be Villanova on Thursday unless Providence knocks off UConn.
Then it would be St. John's.
Very good win by MU. Aside from the timing of Kolek's injury, I think it was a great three game test for the rest of team. Far better than playing the lower half of the conference.
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 09, 2024, 06:28:39 PM
3 refs and Val Ackerman should be fired after that game. If the BEAST wants to put a good product on the court and on the TV, they cannot hire clowns like that to officiate. It has happened far too often. The best "basketball" conference needs to have professional refs.
🙄🙄🙄
What's wrong with Jop? Seems like we have been saying that most of the season. And lately, Ross.
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 09, 2024, 06:50:52 PM
What's wrong with Jop? Seems like we have been saying that most of the season. And lately, Ross.
Some players play better coming off bench. Ross has been starting last three games and I still don't think he has a made field goal.
Jop had an off night. It happens.
Gutsy-ass win. Kam's best game in a Marquette uniform. Stevie was fuggin' nails down the stretch.
Avoided the rake and on to NYC.
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2024, 06:53:42 PM
Some players play better coming off bench. Ross has been starting last three games and I still don't think he has a made field goal.
He had one today. Got to the line and played some solid defense.
Going to be a big summer for him.
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2024, 06:53:42 PM
Some players play better coming off bench. Ross has been starting last three games and I still don't think he has a made field goal.
He made one tonight. He hasn't shot the 3 well since having flu. He plays D though. Ideally, Jop would be a 6th man. He's can give a boost off the bench on O and wouldn't be on the floor with Kam so often, which hurts the D.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 06:58:48 PM
He had one today. Got to the line and played some solid defense.
Going to be a big summer for him.
He did, but that was it on offense. But long arms on defense and athletic. I like him off bench, maybe he does also. We will find out soon how it plays out.
Joplin had horrific day, with four points, zero rebounds, 0 for 5 from three and 3 fouls. Got burned twice on defense and analyst Hummel told him he has to be a bit better. After picking up third foul early in second, he sat most of second half. Played only 19 minutes. When he is on from three, game changer and going to need few consistent games in a row. Not a good, two bad, good, etc.
Quote from: nyg on March 09, 2024, 07:11:33 PM
He did, but that was it on offense. But long arms on defense and athletic. I like him off bench, maybe he does also. We will find out soon how it plays out.
Joplin had horrific day, with four points, zero rebounds, 0 for 5 from three and 3 fouls. Got burned twice on defense and analyst Hummel told him he has to be a bit better. After picking up third foul early in second, he sat most of second half. Played only 19 minutes. When he is on from three, game changer and going to need few consistent games in a row. Not a good, two bad, good, etc.
Felt like it was one of those days where Jop's struggles on offense affected his defense. I expect him to bounce back - we need him.
I hope one of the frosh is an absolute beast and Jop is the BE 6th man award winner next year.
Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 09, 2024, 07:06:43 PM
He made one tonight. He hasn't shot the 3 well since having flu. He plays D though. Ideally, Jop would be a 6th man. He's can give a boost off the bench on O and wouldn't be on the floor with Kam so often, which hurts the D.
any of our frosh coming in better than Ross or Jop? if not, can Shaka actually go after a portal guy?
Quote from: PointWarrior on March 09, 2024, 07:25:50 PM
any of our frosh coming in better than Ross or Jop? if not, can Shaka actually go after a portal guy?
No. They're going to stink
Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 09, 2024, 07:27:04 PM
No. They're going to stink
Hopefully Shaka comes to his senses and releases them from their NLI's.
Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on March 09, 2024, 06:33:41 PM
Missed shots will happen but rough game for Jop defensively.
Ya. Olivari missed a 3 in the 2nd half and got the rebound and blew right by Jop.
He did hit a huge game tying shot in the lane though.
Quote from: mugrad_89 on March 09, 2024, 07:30:33 PM
Hopefully Shaka comes to his senses and releases them from their NLI's.
And urges Jolp and Chase to transfer
Thank you for the entertainment, too bad MU lost the FT battle, this is a loss.
Quote from: Viper on March 09, 2024, 06:27:29 PM
Rico, I don't think I'll owe Goose a dinner on Ben G in the Association. Kam? I'll wager dinner he will be a pro!!
Boy you keep being lost, sad...
Quote from: WarriorFan on March 09, 2024, 06:28:39 PM
3 refs and Val Ackerman should be fired after that game. If the BEAST wants to put a good product on the court and on the TV, they cannot hire clowns like that to officiate. It has happened far too often. The best "basketball" conference needs to have professional refs.
oh, these refs were "professional" all right. tim donaghy still has some alumni out there
Refs were bad both ways last night. I just wish there was some semblance of consistency with the amount of contact that's allowed.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 10, 2024, 09:31:39 AM
Refs were bad both ways last night. I just wish there was some semblance of consistency with the amount of contact that's allowed.
Yes, both teams had a few legitimate gripes.
Quote from: MUfan12 on March 10, 2024, 09:31:39 AM
Refs were bad both ways last night. I just wish there was some semblance of consistency with the amount of contact that's allowed.
Yeah, it's going to be interesting how we adjust in the NCAA. I remember one stretch where each team got mauled going to the basket without a call.
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 10, 2024, 10:11:36 AM
Yeah, it's going to be interesting how we adjust in the NCAA. I remember one stretch where each team got mauled going to the basket without a call.
At the risk of mistakenly being accused of defending the refs... isn't it more difficult to see a foul in those scenarios? Should a ref charge a player with a foul based upon "I'm pretty sure that he fouled, even though I did not have a clear view"?
Quote from: cheebs09 on March 10, 2024, 10:11:36 AM
Yeah, it's going to be interesting how we adjust in the NCAA. I remember one stretch where each team got mauled going to the basket without a call.
UConn v Providence had the Three Mouseketeers: Clougherty, Driscoll and Breeding. It started with the Providence Bully Ball crap that they were letting go again but Hurley went ballistic, earning a well-deserved T. All of a sudden the game turned around.
I get what Sultan has been saying about how bad college officiating has been for years. Yet, the game has changed tremendously, but the way officiating is deployed hasn't changed much. There is sports betting money and NIL involved now, and the independent contractor, old boys network needs to be turned on its ears as their mediocre performance has been put under the spotlight now. The NCAA needs to stop stuffing all the money in their own pockets and invest in officiating.
I was actually hopeful when G League officials started working NCAA games early in the season, but that went away when their season started. And we were back to the same old retreads doing retread things. In the end, I agree with Sultan that the NCAA won't do much: They'll eff up a one car funeral.
Yep. The NCAA, or its conferences, need to figure out how to employ these guys full time during the year. The model is broken.
I celebrate the rights of all scoopers to mourn the MU victory in the manner they so choose.
Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 10, 2024, 11:41:33 AM
Yep. The NCAA, or its conferences, need to figure out how to employ these guys full time during the year. The model is broken.
Develop referee schools/camps/whatever. Plenty of current players would like to remain in the sport. Would it work? I don't know but it's worth exploring