I'm not sure why Marquette Athletics youtube channel stopped posting road press conferences. Some other media sources record both coaches. Here's the Georgetown one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhh5CmwXgHw
Seems like some of these portal teams are hard to blend. No history together and no future with one year of eligibility
Shaka refused to be baited into criticizing Georgetown. Stayed relentlessly positive.
Might be good for us to have a week off.
Cooley said Epps wasn't the only one sick, there is a bug going through the whole team.
Hopefully we can avoid that.
Quote from: tower912 on February 04, 2024, 10:13:54 AM
Shaka refused to be baited into criticizing Georgetown. Stayed relentlessly positive.
There's already plenty of that in Washington to go around.
Announced crowd of 10,000, closer to 7,000. One more weekend game with Connecticut and the crowds will be back to 4-5,000. One thing Ed Coley did not anticipate is how discouraged the fan base is. Many are not coming back.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on February 04, 2024, 05:13:36 AM
I'm not sure why Marquette Athletics youtube channel stopped posting road press conferences. Some other media sources record both coaches. Here's the Georgetown one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhh5CmwXgHw
They must have heard you because MU just posted it. https://youtu.be/v3xXgFLOReo?si=uoAQM33Cxku-ec5f
Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 04, 2024, 10:41:20 AM
Might be good for us to have a week off.
Cooley said Epps wasn't the only one sick, there is a bug going through the whole team.
Hopefully we can avoid that.
They weren't guarding close enough to infect anyone
The Cooley presser was great. Brutally honest. This is a great watch.
https://youtu.be/_SwIg6rvEuQ?feature=shared
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 04, 2024, 12:07:19 PM
There's already plenty of that in Washington to go around.
Announced crowd of 10,000, closer to 7,000. One more weekend game with Connecticut and the crowds will be back to 4-5,000. One thing Ed Coley did not anticipate is how discouraged the fan base is. Many are not coming back.
They'll come back. People pay to watch winning basketball. Passion can be quickly rekindled, even if it feels like that's impossible at the moment.
Quote from: Skatastrophy on February 04, 2024, 01:34:17 PM
They'll come back. People pay to watch winning basketball. Passion can be quickly rekindled, even if it feels like that's impossible at the moment.
Here's why I keep saying this.
Some schools are in generational cities: there have been generations of Cubs fans before and the next generation will grow up there and be Cubs fans too. Washington DC is not that kind of city--it's transient and people arrive with their own loyalties. A family that moved into town from Pennsylvania to work for the government are not going to be Georgetown fans--they're Penn State fans living in DC. This is why, in part, football games at FedEx Field are now routinely overrun by Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys fans every year--the old Redskins fans have died off or moved away. So too with the Georgetown fans of the 1980s - they're not there anymore.
MU fans probably accounted for 20 percent of the gate yesterday. How many Hoyas fans come to Fiserv every year?
Large numbers of students are just giving up. Here is the student section at yesterday's game.
(http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/attendance_418.jpg)
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 04, 2024, 05:30:40 PM
Here's why I keep saying this.
Some schools are in generational cities: there have been generations of Cubs fans before and the next generation will grow up there and be Cubs fans too. Washington DC is not that kind of city--it's transient and people arrive with their own loyalties. A family that moved into town from Pennsylvania to work for the government are not going to be Georgetown fans--they're Penn State fans living in DC. This is why, in part, football games at FedEx Field are now routinely overrun by Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys fans every year--the old Redskins fans have died off or moved away. So too with the Georgetown fans of the 1980s - they're not there anymore.
MU fans probably accounted for 20 percent of the gate yesterday. How many Hoyas fans come to Fiserv every year?
Large numbers of students are just giving up. Here is the student section at yesterday's game.
(http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/attendance_418.jpg)
Your comment about generational fans in generational cities is key. Creighton, Marquette, and Xavier can (and have) withstood some stretches of down years and maintained strong attendance levels. St John's is doing just fine attendance-wise even pre-Pitno by filling MSG at 95% clip for home games. I haven't looked into Seton Hall, Providence, or Villanova, but even though all have had middling performances the past few years their fan bases still seem rabid. While alumni are alumni-tangential fans are always going to make up the majority of the fanbase, there are always the local bandwagoners ready to jump on when the local college makes the NCAAs. Hell, the local Milwaukee media basically ignores Marquette most of the year outside of a quick local news highlight clip, but reporting was pretty awesome to watch once we won the double BE title and got the 2 seed. Bandwagon fans hop on when they have someone local to cheer for, even if it isn't the state school
My point is, when Georgetown is good again, I hope the locals in DC will care, at least to jump on the bandwagon for a little while. People want winners and don't want to be a ride or die fan with losers.
I recognize that DC is definitely is unique due to the transient nature of the city. But Georgetown has only three NCAA appearances since their Final Four in 2007, one of which was a the freak auto-bid run in 2021. That's an eternity to be bad in the Big East, almost DePaul bad, and it's unsurprising how far attendance has fallen off.
Our student attendance has been volatile too. Everyone loves a winner though and that's been proven many times but notably with Crean and recently with Shaka.
I'd worry more about the money-ied folks and their willingness to fund the players needed to win then the kids showing up.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on February 04, 2024, 06:40:40 PM
My point is, when Georgetown is good again, I hope the locals in DC will care, at least to jump on the bandwagon for a little while. People want winners and don't want to be a ride or die fan with losers.
Not sure what you consider "good"....but can't think of many good teams that don't draw a good crowd.
Quote from: avid1010 on February 04, 2024, 07:25:59 PM
Not sure what you consider "good"....but can't think of many good teams that don't draw a good crowd.
In Georgetown's NCAA championship year (1983-84) it averaged only 8,386 a game in a 19,035 seat arena. It's the nature of DC fan support.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 04, 2024, 05:30:40 PM
Here's why I keep saying this.
Some schools are in generational cities: there have been generations of Cubs fans before and the next generation will grow up there and be Cubs fans too. Washington DC is not that kind of city--it's transient and people arrive with their own loyalties. A family that moved into town from Pennsylvania to work for the government are not going to be Georgetown fans--they're Penn State fans living in DC. This is why, in part, football games at FedEx Field are now routinely overrun by Eagles, Giants, and Cowboys fans every year--the old Redskins fans have died off or moved away. So too with the Georgetown fans of the 1980s - they're not there anymore.
MU fans probably accounted for 20 percent of the gate yesterday. How many Hoyas fans come to Fiserv every year?
Large numbers of students are just giving up. Here is the student section at yesterday's game.
(http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/attendance_418.jpg)
I view Georgetown a lot like I view Duke. Very little hometown support, incredible name brand awareness and solid national support. Georgetown being a national university doesn't help. The best and brightest from all over the country go there don't always stay bc DC is such a unique city.
So I can see attendance lagging But as we saw with Pat's big BET run, when Georgetown wins it leads SportsCenter. They are the only school that can challenge UConn for air time.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 04, 2024, 12:07:19 PM
There's already plenty of that in Washington to go around.
Announced crowd of 10,000, closer to 7,000. One more weekend game with Connecticut and the crowds will be back to 4-5,000. One thing Ed Coley did not anticipate is how discouraged the fan base is. Many are not coming back.
Oh they will come back......plenty of MU season ticket holders who swore they would never go to another MU game after BLM.....asking me for tickets. Winning cures everything.
Quote from: We R Final Four on February 04, 2024, 07:40:14 PM
Oh they will come back......plenty of MU season ticket holders who swore they would never go to another MU game after BLM.....asking me for tickets. Winning cures everything.
mubb never dipped as low as DePaul or Georgetown. We can put 9,000 in the seats if Jerry Wainwright's mom was coaching MU.
Quote from: The Lens on February 04, 2024, 07:35:49 PM
I view Georgetown a lot like I view Duke. Very little hometown support, incredible name brand awareness and solid national support. Georgetown being a national university doesn't help. The best and brightest from all over the country go there don't always stay bc DC is such a unique city.
So I can see attendance lagging But as we saw with Pat's big BET run, when Georgetown wins it leads SportsCenter. They are the only school that can challenge UConn for air time.
Very true. Like it or not, the contingent of students that go to Georgetown are academically heads above students attending any of the other Big East schools. It's similar to Duke in the ACC, although BC and Georgia Tech (and ND if you count them) are also strong schools.
Biased, obviously, but every Marquette alum I know has attended at least one basketball game, and the vast majority had student tickets. I know several Georgetown undergrad and grad alums who have never attended a game in their 4 years.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on February 04, 2024, 06:40:40 PM
But Georgetown has only three NCAA appearances since their Final Four in 2007, one of which was a the freak auto-bid run in 2021.
Huh? I count 7 one of which they were co regular season champs. They had attendance issues under JT3 when they were still ok but not great in 2015.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on February 04, 2024, 07:57:06 PM
Very true. Like it or not, the contingent of students that go to Georgetown are academically heads above students attending any of the other Big East schools. It's similar to Duke in the ACC, although BC and Georgia Tech (and ND if you count them) are also strong schools.
Biased, obviously, but every Marquette alum I know has attended at least one basketball game, and the vast majority had student tickets. I know several Georgetown undergrad and grad alums who have never attended a game in their 4 years.
Most of the other Big East schools catered to students who came from "blue collar" families like mine. Then you have schools like Nova, the Hall, St. Johns and Providence in the Ivies backyards. Perhaps on average you are correct, but I new many students at MU who academically could have went to any school in the country. In fact one of my class mates was accepted to every Med School he applied to including Harvard. He chose Stanford.
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 04, 2024, 05:30:40 PM
Here's why I keep saying this.
Some schools are in generational cities: there have been generations of Cubs fans before and the next generation will grow up there and be Cubs fans too. Washington DC is not that kind of city--it's transient and people arrive with their own loyalties.
MU fans probably accounted for 20 percent of the gate yesterday. How many Hoyas fans come to Fiserv every year?
Large numbers of students are just giving up.
I have had enough experience over quite a few years working with people in DC to comprehend your point about the transient nature and overall lack of identification with the city and area. This game was too lopsided pretty much from the tip off onward to illustrate the lack of local/student support and enthusiasm, but I have been to the DC game a number of times over the years and have noticed the tepid fan support. And Marquette fans, most well beyond their 20's to put it mildly, were vocal and enthusiastic beyond what one might expect.
Quote from: The Lens on February 04, 2024, 07:35:49 PM
I view Georgetown a lot like I view Duke. Very little hometown support, incredible name brand awareness and solid national support.
I don't really understand this. I live in Charlotte, and there is a lot of support for Duke basketball here. And I read the Raleigh-Durham newspaper online (it's owned by the same chain that owns the Charlotte Observer), and there is plenty of hometown support for Duke basketball.
UNC is a large state school with a lot more alums (and alums' families and friends) than Duke has, so you do see more Carolina Blue here than Duke Blue. But again, plenty of Duke hats and hoodies around here, and lots of people, when asked, will say they are Duke fans.
Quote from: The Lens on February 04, 2024, 07:44:03 PM
mubb never dipped as low as DePaul or Georgetown. We can put 9,000 in the seats if Jerry Wainwright's mom was coaching MU.
Or Wojo!
Quote from: MU82 on February 05, 2024, 07:42:33 AM
I don't really understand this. I live in Charlotte, and there is a lot of support for Duke basketball here. And I read the Raleigh-Durham newspaper online (it's owned by the same chain that owns the Charlotte Observer), and there is plenty of hometown support for Duke basketball.
UNC is a large state school with a lot more alums (and alums' families and friends) than Duke has, so you do see more Carolina Blue here than Duke Blue. But again, plenty of Duke hats and hoodies around here, and lots of people, when asked, will say they are Duke fans.
Duke has support in metro Charlotte and western Durham, but little elsewhere. Just 15 percent of Duke students come from NC and the rest of the state knows it. UNC owns the Piedmont section of the state, NC State has the run from the Triangle east.
Georgetown's fan issues are different, even as just 3 percent of its students come from Washington DC.
Quote from: WarriorDoc on February 04, 2024, 07:57:06 PM
Very true. Like it or not, the contingent of students that go to Georgetown are academically heads above students attending any of the other Big East schools. It's similar to Duke in the ACC, although BC and Georgia Tech (and ND if you count them) are also strong schools.
Biased, obviously, but every Marquette alum I know has attended at least one basketball game, and the vast majority had student tickets. I know several Georgetown undergrad and grad alums who have never attended a game in their 4 years.
Add to that UVA, UNC and Wake (and then a bunch more top 100)
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 04, 2024, 05:30:40 PM
(http://www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/images/attendance_418.jpg)
Gotta say, I was at the game, and at its peak, the student section was WAY more full. That photo is misleading, wish I took a pic now.. Though they did leave before the end of the game. I don't blame them.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 05, 2024, 09:45:08 PM
Gotta say, I was at the game, and at its peak, the student section was WAY more full. That photo is misleading, wish I took a pic now.. Though they did leave before the end of the game. I don't blame them.
Couldn't blame em if they left at halftime.
Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 05, 2024, 10:21:04 PM
Couldn't blame em if they left at halftime.
No doubt. Most of them stayed until at least under 12 of the second half.
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 05, 2024, 10:24:12 PM
No doubt. Most of them stayed until at least under 12 of the second half.
Shake Shack promo?
Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 05, 2024, 10:24:12 PM
No doubt. Most of them stayed until at least under 12 of the second half.
Agree that there were far more than the photo shows and that they stayed until near the end. They were quiet, but who could blame them? Other than a sprinkling of nice plays here and there, GT was awful. Kudos to the GT students who showed up.
Even in years when GT had a good team, I always found GT fans to be "good hosts" in the sense that you could chat with them about the game and exchange observations without a hint of animosity. Imagine trying that in Storrs
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 06, 2024, 08:24:53 AM
Agree that there were far more than the photo shows and that they stayed until near the end. They were quiet, but who could blame them? Other than a sprinkling of nice plays here and there, GT was awful. Kudos to the GT students who showed up.
Even in years when GT had a good team, I always found GT fans to be "good hosts" in the sense that you could chat with them about the game and exchange observations without a hint of animosity. Imagine trying that in Storrs
I'll let you know how it goes in about 11 days.
Quote from: mug644 on February 06, 2024, 12:49:31 PM
I'll let you know how it goes in about 11 days.
It's been nice knowing you.
Imagination is the only route these days. The game is in Hartford.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 06, 2024, 08:24:53 AM
Agree that there were far more than the photo shows and that they stayed until near the end. They were quiet, but who could blame them? Other than a sprinkling of nice plays here and there, GT was awful. Kudos to the GT students who showed up.
The photo was taken at tip-off.
Quote from: Scoop Snoop on February 06, 2024, 12:53:43 PM
It's been nice knowing you.
I'll be there with 5 other big burly guys from the class of '88. We got this.
Quote from: Frenns Liquor Depot on February 06, 2024, 12:57:37 PM
Imagination is the only route these days. The game is in Hartford.
Thanks for the reminder. Hartford is even closer to home!
Quote from: DFW HOYA on February 06, 2024, 01:44:22 PM
The photo was taken at tip-off.
I stand corrected. I didn't realize it was that bad but should have.
Quote from: mug644 on February 06, 2024, 01:45:36 PM
I'll be there with 5 other big burly guys from the class of '88. We got this.
Thanks for the reminder. Hartford is even closer to home!
Good thing. I recall you as an average sized soccer fan. Anybody else from surfin 7?
Quote from: tower912 on February 06, 2024, 01:48:50 PM
Good thing. I recall you as an average sized soccer fan. Anybody else from surfin 7?
Yup, I'm not exactly a burly guy myself. The whole crew is from McC Surfin' 7 (1984-85)...Greg B, Rich M, Joe G, Kevin N and Mike P. Plus we'll meet up with Matt Mc who I was with at the @Providence game.
Will be a fun weekend, hopefully including an awesome victory!
Sounds like fun. Enjoy.